Jason Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 Just a reminder, this team is not about career achievement. Pick the guys at their best to win all the post season games. We start with QB. IMO there are only 3 real options but I will leave a spot for a write-in. The poll will run until 9:30 pm tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esjbh2 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 Kenny was great and Boomer had his moments...but this one is too easy...JB all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 JB has achieved what Anderson and Esiason did by leading his team to the big game.. JB gets my vote as he achieves even more.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Le Tigre Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 Kenny achieved his greatness in the postseason when the league rules were not markedly in his favor. That said, he likely would not be as effective in today’s game. And Burrow would have been long dead by now in Kenny’s era. Assuming that the baseline for “championships” is the present era, then Burrow would be #1. If it is a hybrid of different eras, it is not so clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Kenny achieved his greatness in the postseason when the league rules were not markedly in his favor. That said, he likely would not be as effective in today’s game. And Burrow would have been long dead by now in Kenny’s era. Assuming that the baseline for “championships” is the present era, then Burrow would be #1. If it is a hybrid of different eras, it is not so clear. I wonder why you think Anderson wouldn't be effective in today's game? He was as accurate a passer as has ever existed. I think he wouldn't have a problem reading defenses. He probably wouldn't have the arm strength of some of these guys, but to me accuracy is king. Lots of guys with big arms that cant play for shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: And Burrow would have been long dead by now in Kenny’s era. Yeah Burrow has no toughness to him at all, what a pussy. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 I know I said 9:30 but I’m tired and going to bed early tonight. Burrow it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 5 hours ago, spicoli said: Yeah Burrow has no toughness to him at all, what a pussy. Too funny. Sure he’s tough. But compared to guys like Joe Kapp—who routinely were popped up side the head by Deacon Jones… or a Turkey Jones body slam? Kenny survived a cork screwed head twist. All of these—while not technically allowed back then—were also basically tolerated. Today’s bubble-wrapped rule protected QB’s are not in the same area code in terms of having their bodies abused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 7 hours ago, UncleEarl said: I wonder why you think Anderson wouldn't be effective in today's game? He was as accurate a passer as has ever existed. I think he wouldn't have a problem reading defenses. He probably wouldn't have the arm strength of some of these guys, but to me accuracy is king. Lots of guys with big arms that cant play for shit. Now that I think about it…you have a point. Kenny—having today’s QB protection rules—likely would be in Top-10 mix. He would still have to have a line/running game, but who doesn’t? Along that same thought…he also had that incredible accuracy, while passing to receivers who were being constantly bumped/pushed everywhere on the field. Another aspect of present day rules upping stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 To me, Kenny was essentially Brady before Brady. More Athletic than Brady but similar in terms of accuracy and sneaky arm strength. It is impossible to compare the players over generations. A dumby like Bradshaw could never read defences today or play is a pass heavy game. And someone like Brees could never survive the style of play in the 70's. The game changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 49 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: To me, Kenny was essentially Brady before Brady. More Athletic than Brady but similar in terms of accuracy and sneaky arm strength. It is impossible to compare the players over generations. A dumby like Bradshaw could never read defences today or play is a pass heavy game. And someone like Brees could never survive the style of play in the 70's. The game changes. According to Bill Walsh, Anderson was Joe Montana before Montana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Along that same thought…he also had that incredible accuracy, while passing to receivers who were being constantly bumped/pushed everywhere on the field. Another aspect of present day rules upping stats. If you go and find YouTube highlights of Anderson what always stands out to me were the accuracy of his short passes. Laid in there perfect every time. Many very good modern QBs struggle with those. They don't have the benefit of the full passing motion they have practiced and refined for decades. Just about everything Anderson threw was on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 To me, Burrow combines the best features of Ken and Boomer. He has the accuracy of Ken and the leadership and swag of Boomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted June 21, 2023 Report Share Posted June 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Jason said: To me, Burrow combines the best features of Ken and Boomer. He has the accuracy of Ken and the leadership and swag of Boomer. I think Joe Burrow is better than both one both counts. Too bad Greg Cook wasn't around long enough for a comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 6/21/2023 at 8:54 AM, UncleEarl said: According to Bill Walsh, Anderson was Joe Montana before Montana. That is a much better analogy. Somehow I forgot about that qoute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 I always wonder how good Akili Smith could have been if he had been any good at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 No Kitna, no vote! 🥷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted June 22, 2023 Report Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 6/20/2023 at 12:41 AM, esjbh2 said: Kenny was great and Boomer had his moments...but this one is too easy...JB all the way. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 3:47 PM, Cricket said: No Kitna, no vote! 🥷 No No vote from Dr Tibor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted June 24, 2023 Report Share Posted June 24, 2023 On 6/22/2023 at 1:33 PM, I_C_Deadpeople said: I always wonder how good Akili Smith could have been if he had been any good at all. I think, with time, Akili would have improved from "have to improve to suck" to "sucking". Arm of an RPG (Rocket Propelled Grenade, not Role Playing Game, millennials) Brain of an Ant. Bengals beat writers spent more time making excuses for him than writing about his accomplishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 This is as close as Boomer is getting to the field with Shiesty available ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted June 27, 2023 Report Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/20/2023 at 12:07 PM, Le Tigre said: Kenny achieved his greatness in the postseason when the league rules were not markedly in his favor. That said, he likely would not be as effective in today’s game. And Burrow would have been long dead by now in Kenny’s era. Assuming that the baseline for “championships” is the present era, then Burrow would be #1. If it is a hybrid of different eras, it is not so clear. What is clear is playoff wins. JB is 5-2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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claptonrocks Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: In 3yrs. Many more from him going forward.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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