|High School Harry| Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 59 minutes ago, saphead said: Hmmmmmm the Browns are holding assistant coaches accountable. I wonder what that's like? Maybe they're trying to ketchup with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebengal Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, saphead said: Hmmmmmm the Browns are holding assistant coaches accountable. I wonder what that's like? Too bad they didn't get rid of Bill Callahan, too. I'm kind of surprised at this, considering all of the injuries that they had on their offense, and the lack of talent at WR (aside from Amari Cooper) that they had to work with. I guess Kevin Stefanski is taking all of the credit for their success in spite of the injuries, especially since his name is being bandied about as a COTY winner. (Which I think is going to go to DeMeco Ryans,, or it should.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 12 hours ago, saphead said: Hmmmmmm the Browns are holding assistant coaches accountable. I wonder what that's like? Ha! Sign a serial abuser, he gets hurt and you shuffle in 4 different QBs and then blame the OC. This is a perfect example of "holding people accountable." It is often indistinguishable from blaming someone for mistakes not of their doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 18 Report Share Posted January 18 https://babylonbee.com/news/child-who-dreams-of-being-nfl-referee-gets-devastating-news-that-he-was-born-with-2020-vision 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 "I model my game to Burrow a lot." ~ CJ Stroud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 8 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Maybe he wants to sell it on eBay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 2020 QB Draft Class playoff EPA ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Squeelers have devolved into a POVERTY FRANCHISE, as they say on twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 I guess Tomlin is showing off his inner Marv Lewis these past few years. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 Tomlin has the Stealers in NFL limbo status. They aren’t bad enough to bottom out and get a high draft pick (QB) but they also aren’t good enough to win in the playoffs. You see this in the NBA more commonly. There are teams competing for championships and teams rebuilding and the worst place to be is outside one of those two places. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 They have a world-class defense, and an exceptional running game. But they have either shit receivers (Diva-personified Pickens excluded), or underproducing QB play. They can stumble into receivers. If Kenny becomes even ADalton level, this is the furthest thing from a bad team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Inigo Montoya said: Tomlin has the Stealers in NFL limbo status. They aren’t bad enough to bottom out and get a high draft pick (QB) but they also aren’t good enough to win in the playoffs. You see this in the NBA more commonly. There are teams competing for championships and teams rebuilding and the worst place to be is outside one of those two places. It's almost like picking in the middle of the draft every year doesn't do anything to improve your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 19 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: It's almost like picking in the middle of the draft every year doesn't do anything to improve your team. Seems like picking in the middle has landed them some really good players in their front 7.. Their philosophy has been Oline..front 7 and fill in the rest. Can't say it hasn't worked but Pickett is a problem. Very mediocre especially if they make the playoffs again this coming year. (Which I doubt). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 19 Report Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: It's almost like picking in the middle of the draft every year doesn't do anything to improve your team. That was Marvin's downfall. Among other things. Everyone got better or worse except the guy in the middle. Of course, the current staff is really into the free agency stuff. And other teams don't think trading draft picks is poison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Speaking of old Marv, he apparently is going to be on the new Raiders coaching staff in some capacity. Probably mainly as a mentor to Pierce which is smart. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I love it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 5 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Speaking of old Marv, he apparently is going to be on the new Raiders coaching staff in some capacity. Probably mainly as a mentor to Pierce which is smart. Do Pierce and Lewis have any previous connections? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 6 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Do Pierce and Lewis have any previous connections? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 20 Author Report Share Posted January 20 13 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: Smart move. Marvin may have been average but he has incredible experience dealing with ownership issues. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Cleveland Browns Set to Watch $45.7 Million Worth of Talent Hit NFL Free Agency Story by Luke Norris • 16h After posting a surprising 11-6 record during the 2023 NFL regular season to earn the No. 5 seed in the AFC, the Cleveland Browns were embarrassed in the opening round of the playoffs in a 45-14 loss to the Houston Texans. The Browns are now faced with an interesting offseason as executive VP of football operations and general manager Andrew Berry faces some salary-cap issues and a lengthy list of unrestricted free agents. That’s a list of 26, to be exact, according to Over the Cap, some of whom were key contributors to Cleveland’s success this past year. The most recognizable name, of course, is quarterback Joe Flacco, who came off his couch to lead Cleveland to four key victories down the stretch. Never a long-term option, Flacco isn’t likely to be back as the Browns are obviously set under center with Deshaun Watson and his massive guaranteed contract. Besides, Flacco may end up getting the chance to start elsewhere. Other notable names include defensive end Za’Darius Smith, linebackers Anthony Walker Jr. and Sione Takitaki, tight end Harrison Bryant, safety Rodney McLeod, offensive tackle Geron Christian, punter Corey Bojorquez, and running back Kareem Hunt. The Browns Have 26 Pending Free Agents Heading Into the 2024 NFL Offseason As mentioned, the Browns have 26 total players set to hit the market this offseason. And while many justify retention, both stars and role players alike, the fact remains that Berry will have to let some of them walk as Cleveland is in somewhat of a pickle financially. But before we get to that, here’s the Browns’ full list of pending free agents. 2024 Cleveland Browns Free Agents Player Position Type Current APY Za’Darius Smith EDGE Void $11,677,000 Shelby Harris IDL UFA $3,500,000 Sione Takitaki LB UFA $2,582,500 Joe Flacco QB UFA $2,200,000 Harrison Bryant TE UFA $1,750,000 Marquise Goodwin WR UFA $1,700,000 Jordan Elliott IDL UFA $1,700,000 Corey Bojorquez P UFA $1,690,000 Jakeem Grant WR Void $1,512,500 Mike Ford CB UFA $1,500,000 Kareem Hunt RB UFA $1,350,000 Rodney McLeod S UFA $1,317,500 Matthew Adams LB UFA $1,232,500 Jordan Kunaszyk LB UFA $1,232,500 Anthony Walker Jr. LB UFA $1,232,500 Duron Harmon S UFA $1,165,000 Jeff Driskel QB UFA $1,140,000 Jacob Phillips LB UFA $1,086,078 Geron Christian LT UFA $1,080,000 Maurice Hurst IDL UFA $1,080,000 James Proche WR UFA $1,010,000 Michael Dunn LG UFA $1,010,000 P.J. Walker QB UFA $1,010,000 Nick Harris C UFA $902,412 Sam Kamara IDL ERFA $870,000 Ty Nsekhe LT SFA $438,444 For those scoring at home, that’s $45,736,434 worth of Cleveland Browns talent ready to test free agency. The Browns Are Projected to Be $13.86 Million Over the Salary Cap Even with the 26 names above off the books, the Browns face some financial concerns heading into this offseason, as Spotrac projects them to be $13.866 million over the salary cap. The biggest issue, of course, is the $63.977 million hit they’re set to take on Deshaun Watson, which marks the largest cap hit in NFL history, according to The Athletic. But it’s not as if Watson is the only well-paid player on the Cleveland roster, as Amari Cooper, Denzel Ward, and Myles Garrett are all set to rake in more than $20 million during the 2024 campaign. Now, Berry has already restructured Watson’s contract once and will likely do so again this year to free up space. Exactly how much space is obviously yet to be known, but even if Watson’s cap hit goes down, the Browns will still face some problems in free agency, whether it’s retaining some of the players listed above or bringing in new blood. In addition, there are likely going to have to be some cap casualties, one of which may be running back Nick Chubb. The four-time Pro Bowler, who sustained a season-ending knee injury in Week 2, is owed $15.825 million in 2024 but only carries a dead-cap hit of $4 million, which means the Browns could free up more than $11 million if they cut him. Wide receiver Elijah Moore and kicker Dustin Hopkins could find themselves on the chopping block as well. Buckle up, Browns fans. It’s bound to be a wild offseason. https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cleveland-browns-set-to-watch-45-7-million-worth-of-talent-hit-nfl-free-agency/ar-BB1gY7J2?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=7921c068db6745d2a57b4fb98e29d54f&ei=75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Marvin may have been the Marty Shottenheimer of our day, but he is one of the best D coordinators around. If that's what the Raiders do they will get good on D soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 23 hours ago, Arkansas Bengal said: cap casualties, one of which may be running back Nick Chubb. The four-time Pro Bowler, who sustained a season-ending knee injury in Week 2, is owed $15.825 million in 2024 but only carries a dead-cap hit of $4 million, which means the Browns could free up more than $11 million if they cut him. They are about to do him dirty, after having his leg bent backwards. I think it will hurt locker room morale for sure. As he's known as the "best human and person" on the team. Love to see the chaos. Also 45 million over the cap while giving Rub&Tug 62 million ... Priceless. Total shit show of an organization and the bill is now coming due. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebengal Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Too bad there aren’t more OL on this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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