Arkansas Bengal Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 As Cincinnati tries to get down to 53 players, we explore some veterans who could be let go. By Dadio Makdook@dadiodefacto Jul 19, 2024, 8:00am EDT The Cincinnati Bengals have added a lot of depth to positions of weakness, like the offensive line and the secondary, this past offseason. What does that mean for veterans trying to hold on to their job? Here are five players that could be cut by the time the regular season comes around: Jackson Carman: The second round pick in the 2021 Draft simply hasn’t lived up to his potential. And the Bengals have added Trent Brown and Amarius Mims to bulk up the tackle position. This seems like an inevitable move, especially considering the fact that more than two-thirds of his $2.4 million cap hit wouldn’t count as dead money. Chris Evans: The explosive running back has just 89 rushing yards to his name since being drafted in the sixth round of the 2021 Draft. With Chase Brown and Zack Moss as the lead backs, Evans will have to compete with Trayveon Williams for the third spot, and it seems Williams is a better fit on special teams. Logan Woodside: It’s a feel-good story to have Woodside back where he originally began his career when drafted in the seventh round in 2018. Yes, he was only re-signed this offseason, and Joe Burrow is still rehabilitating, but Woodside isn’t likely to make the 53 man roster. Cincinnati already has its two QB roster spots figured out with Burrow as the starter and Jake Browning as the backup. Kwamie Lassiter II, Kendric Pryor, and Shedrick Jackson: Don’t be shocked if all three of these receivers are let go, as the Bengals are already loaded at the position with Ja’Marr Chase, Tee Higgins, Jermaine Burton, Trenton Irwin, Charlie Jones, and Andrei Iosivas. D’Ante Smith: Though the Bengals need depth at tackle, they may just decide they’ve seen enough of Smith, who, similar to Carman, simply hasn’t demonstrated he deserves consistent snaps at tackle since being drafted in 2021. Orlando Brown Jr. and Trent Brown will likely be the starters with Mims getting his opportunities early. That leaves some space on the roster, but Cincinnati may decide to go for a cheaper option with more upside (simply due to the element of the unknown). https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/7/19/24201640/5-potentially-surprising-roster-cuts-for-bengals Quote
sparky151 Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 Why would any of those cuts be surprising? I think the team will probably carry 4 OTs but Ford may be the 4th as a G/T. 2 Quote
texbengal Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 36 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Why would any of those cuts be surprising? I think the team will probably carry 4 OTs but Ford may be the 4th as a G/T. Right. Slow news day. Some of the guys like Shedrick Jackson and Kwame Lassiter likely get PS spots if they aren't picked up by another team. D'Ante Smith has been a non-factor and Carman had a few shining moments in playoff games, but that's been it. Could see them keeping Carman but it wouldn't shock me if he were cut. Re: Evans, the kickoff return changes may actually help him, since teams will likely keep 2 returners deep. Tray'Veon, Charlie Jones, and Evans would seem to be the leaders in the clubhouse. Chase Brown would be one as well, but I suspect they won't put him back there since he'll be counted on as a RB. 1 Quote
alleycat Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 Headline says surprising, body says inevitable. 4 Quote
AmishBengalFan Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 None of these guys - except for one - have decent anagrams for their names.... Jackson Carman = Major Snack Can Chris Evans = Craves Sin Logan Woodside = Alien Dogwoods Kwamie Lassiter = Wailer Mistakes Kendric Pryor = Irk Nerdy Crop Shedrick Jackson = Cracks Hind Jokes But D'Ante Smith.... whoa! D’Ante Smith = Death Mints = Had Mittens = Damn Tithes Probably second-best ever Bengal, after: Chris Perry = Rips Cherry 1 Quote
|High School Harry| Posted July 19 Report Posted July 19 If a good running back. from another team becomes a cap cut or someone they try to fly under the radar, he's a Bengal and Evans and probably Williams are both gone,. Quote
Jason Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 On 7/19/2024 at 9:49 AM, Arkansas Bengal said: As Cincinnati tries to get down to 53 players, we explore some veterans who could be let go. By Dadio Makdook@dadiodefacto Jul 19, 2024, 8:00am EDT The Cincinnati Bengals have added a lot of depth to positions of weakness, like the offensive line and the secondary, this past offseason. What does that mean for veterans trying to hold on to their job? Here are five players that could be cut by the time the regular season comes around: Jackson Carman: The second round pick in the 2021 Draft simply hasn’t lived up to his potential. And the Bengals have added Trent Brown and Amarius Mims to bulk up the tackle position. This seems like an inevitable move, especially considering the fact that more than two-thirds of his $2.4 million cap hit wouldn’t count as dead money. I will be more surprised if he is NOT cut. 1 Quote
sparky151 Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 Carman's odds are probably better than Smiths, simply based on prior playing time and as a legacy of being drafted earlier the same year. Quote
dex Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 27 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Carman's odds are probably better than Smiths, simply based on prior playing time and as a legacy of being drafted earlier the same year. Carman has also played both tackle and guard so versatility may help him too. I don't think where a player got drafted has anything to do with 53 man roster status. Tyler Shelvin got drafted earlier than Smith...and he didn't last in the organization very long at all. Quote
-GoBengals- Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 21 hours ago, BlackJesus said: I want Carman cut. I've seen enough. I did overhear the team meeting where they were asking around if black Jesus had seen enough in regards to cutting players. 19 hours ago, High School Harry said: If a good running back. from another team becomes a cap cut or someone they try to fly under the radar, he's a Bengal and Evans and probably Williams are both gone,. Williams plays special teams. A rb from another team isn’t getting any rb snaps at rb so it would be odd to cut a special teams guy they like and trust for a bench riding rb. I think Williams roster spot is one of special teams alone really. 35 minutes ago, dex said: Carman has also played both tackle and guard so versatility may help him too. I don't think where a player got drafted has anything to do with 53 man roster status. Tyler Shelvin got drafted earlier than Smith...and he didn't last in the organization very long at all. yea draft position no longer a factor with roster decisions around the bengals. I’d love to be in the conversation room about Jackson. His career got off to an oddball covid start. Then got odd injuries at the worst time. They must think of given a good ramp up he can be useful. Or they would have parted ways. The money means nothing honestly. 2 Quote
claptonrocks Posted July 20 Report Posted July 20 21 hours ago, High School Harry said: If a good running back. from another team becomes a cap cut or someone they try to fly under the radar, he's a Bengal and Evans and probably Williams are both gone,. I'll agree about Evans but Trayveon Williams has done everything expected of him. Quote
texbengal Posted July 21 Report Posted July 21 6 hours ago, claptonrocks said: I'll agree about Evans but Trayveon Williams has done everything expected of him. Agree. I wonder if they will look for a short-yardage/goal line back. If Samaje were to become available I’m sure they’d love to have him. Quote
claptonrocks Posted July 21 Report Posted July 21 15 minutes ago, texbengal said: Agree. I wonder if they will look for a short-yardage/goal line back. If Samaje were to become available I’m sure they’d love to have him. I don't see Perine coming back. I believe Zach Moss was good at breaking tackles. He's very strong. Quote
|High School Harry| Posted July 21 Report Posted July 21 9 hours ago, claptonrocks said: I don't see Perine coming back. I believe Zach Moss was good at breaking tackles. He's very strong. And Perine is a couple years longer in the tooth. Not sure if he is eligible for the practice squad (doubt it) or would take it if offered but maybe there like a spare car part on an Auto Zone that can be pulled off and bolted in if and when the need arises. 1 Quote
texbengal Posted July 21 Report Posted July 21 30 minutes ago, High School Harry said: And Perine is a couple years longer in the tooth. Not sure if he is eligible for the practice squad (doubt it) or would take it if offered but maybe there like a spare car part on an Auto Zone that can be pulled off and bolted in if and when the need arises. Perine is still in Denver but I’m unsure if they’ll keep him. If available he’s a big guy that can move the pile in close, and he’s a good ST player too. Denver uses a FB and they have several running backs, so maybe Perine is surplus for them. I really like Moss a lot, but at least based on his past, he is a good yards after contact guy but not great around the goal line. I think I saw the stats and he was like 3/8 last year. He’s a compact runner and he’s got some power, but Perine and Mixon both have at least 20 pounds on him and generally, I thought Perine was solid as a short yardage guy. Plus, he can catch the ball and is decent in pass pro. He’s only 28. 1 Quote
dex Posted July 21 Report Posted July 21 37 minutes ago, texbengal said: Perine is still in Denver but I’m unsure if they’ll keep him. If available he’s a big guy that can move the pile in close, and he’s a good ST player too. Denver uses a FB and they have several running backs, so maybe Perine is surplus for them. I really like Moss a lot, but at least based on his past, he is a good yards after contact guy but not great around the goal line. I think I saw the stats and he was like 3/8 last year. He’s a compact runner and he’s got some power, but Perine and Mixon both have at least 20 pounds on him and generally, I thought Perine was solid as a short yardage guy. Plus, he can catch the ball and is decent in pass pro. He’s only 28. The problem with bringing in a 4th RB for short yardage is creating space to have all 4 RBs active on gamedays. 48 actives sounds like a lot, but 3 of them have to be kicking game specialists. That means only 45 actives for off/def. I think it breaks down to maybe only 22 actives on offense for opening day. Maybe something like: 2 QBs (Burrow/Browning) 3 RBs (CBrown/Moss/Williams) 6 WRs (all 6 WRs will likely be actives - Chase/Higgins/Irwin/Iosivas/Burton/CJones) 3 TEs ( last season 4 TEs were usually active because of special teams...this year they may only be able to keep 3 up...Sample/Gesicki/Hudson) 8 OL (OBrown/Volson/Karras/Cappa/TBrown/Mims/Ford/THill) Quote
I_C_Deadpeople Posted July 21 Report Posted July 21 20 hours ago, GoBengals said: I did overhear the team meeting where they were asking around if black Jesus had seen enough in regards to cutting players. Williams plays special teams. A rb from another team isn’t getting any rb snaps at rb so it would be odd to cut a special teams guy they like and trust for a bench riding rb. I think Williams roster spot is one of special teams alone really. yea draft position no longer a factor with roster decisions around the bengals. I’d love to be in the conversation room about Jackson. His career got off to an oddball covid start. Then got odd injuries at the worst time. They must think of given a good ramp up he can be useful. Or they would have parted ways. The money means nothing honestly. Not sure why any conversation regarding. Cartman would be interesting. He is at BEST a fringe NFL player. Not that interesting. 1 Quote
sparky151 Posted July 22 Report Posted July 22 On 7/20/2024 at 1:16 PM, dex said: Carman has also played both tackle and guard so versatility may help him too. I don't think where a player got drafted has anything to do with 53 man roster status. Tyler Shelvin got drafted earlier than Smith...and he didn't last in the organization very long at all. Shelvin was a slug and day 3 guys can't afford that. Carman was Duke's 2nd round pick and has received a longer leash. And in fairness, he's worked harder than Shelvin ever did. He's just not very good and in retrospect was obviously overdrafted. Quote
|High School Harry| Posted July 22 Report Posted July 22 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: Shelvin was a slug and day 3 guys can't afford that. Carman was Duke's 2nd round pick and has received a longer leash. And in fairness, he's worked harder than Shelvin ever did. He's just not very good and in retrospect was obviously overdrafted. The biggest 20/20 hindsight bite in the ass with Flounder is we passed on C Creed Humphry to go for the home town boy. Whatever... onward and upward to the Super Bowl. Not impossible we can trade Flounder for a case of Hudey Lite. I mean, we unloaded pant load Mixon for a draft pick. Quote
dex Posted July 22 Report Posted July 22 18 minutes ago, High School Harry said: The biggest 20/20 hindsight bite in the ass with Flounder is we passed on C Creed Humphry to go for the home town boy. After the Bengals took Carman in the 2nd round, about 16 picks went by before Humphrey went off the board. So a lot of teams had serious questions about Humphrey to cause him to fall to the very end of the 2nd round. If the Chiefs were 100 percent sold on Humphrey, they could do what they often do and trade up to make sure he didn't get picked in front of them. Sometimes you just get lucky when a pick works out better than anyone expected. Of course the Bengals could have stayed right where they were originally and just taken the player that the Patriots traded up with them to get- DT Christian Barmore, who just signed a big money extension with New England due to his stellar play. Quote
|SF2| Posted July 23 Report Posted July 23 2 hours ago, dex said: After the Bengals took Carman in the 2nd round, about 16 picks went by before Humphrey went off the board. So a lot of teams had serious questions about Humphrey to cause him to fall to the very end of the 2nd round. If the Chiefs were 100 percent sold on Humphrey, they could do what they often do and trade up to make sure he didn't get picked in front of them. Sometimes you just get lucky when a pick works out better than anyone expected. Of course the Bengals could have stayed right where they were originally and just taken the player that the Patriots traded up with them to get- DT Christian Barmore, who just signed a big money extension with New England due to his stellar play. Redrafting a draft years later is easy. We would have Patrick Mahomes instead of John Ross if the way back machine were available. Actually, Cleveland would have Mahomes. Quote
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