DaltonGreen Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [u][b]How i see it:[/b][/u] With Sanchez Declaring for the draft you potentially have 2 Qb's (matt stafford being the other) that can go in the Top 5. Not only this if you include Crabtree in the mix among the top 5 which i think it is safe to say he will,[size=6]THEN[/size] that tthen leaves us picking from 3 Great players in OT Eugene Monroe, OT Michael Oher, and LB Aaron Curry. But the good news doesnt stop there. With Malcolm jenkins creeping up some draft boards could it be possible that we will actually have the chance to choose from 2 out of 3 of these fine athletes?? This could declaration of Sanchaz could be bigger then previously thought. [u]Detroit Lions[/u]- QB NEEDED [u]Rams[/u]- Hoenstly think they will take one of the OT's [u]Chiefs[/u]- Is thigpen thier future at qb? [u]Seahawks[/u]- Hasselback prolly done [u]Browns[/u]- They could go for Jenkins or bernie wells [size=5][u][b]Bengals [/b][/u]([/size]Us)- IF we get lucky i think we could be sitting pretty at this spot. Any thoughts...could it be possible we choose from 2of 3 of these players and if we do which 2 players will it be ..and who could sneak into the top 5 to help us out?? List of Players that would help us out by going in the top 5 ahead of the 3 players we seem to have our eye on in Monroe,Oher, and Curry: Malcolm Jenkins Bernie Wells Michael Crabtree Mark Sanchez Matthew Stafford ...who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Time Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I don't know where you get that Hasselbeck is probably done but there should be an offensive lineman available for the taking at #6 1. Lions - Stafford, QB 2. Rams - Oher/Smith, OL 3. Chiefs - Orakpo, DE 4. Seahawks - Crabtree, WR 5. Browns - Curry, LB 6. Bengals - Oher/Smith, OL Moreno becomes an option at 6 if Benson isn't brought back as well (please no!!!!!!!!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonGreen Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Who Dey Time' post='740259' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:36 PM']I don't know where you get that Hasselbeck is probably done but there should be an offensive lineman available for the taking at #6 1. Lions - Stafford, QB 2. Rams - Oher/Smith, OL 3. Chiefs - Orakpo, DE 4. Seahawks - Crabtree, WR 5. Browns - Curry, LB 6. Bengals - Oher/Smith, OL Moreno becomes an option at 6 if Benson isn't brought back as well (please no!!!!!!!!!!)[/quote] At scout.com [url="http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html"]http://sea.scout.com/2/815943.html[/url] They talk about releasing him to save 6.3 million in salary cap. IN the article adam Shefter says he might be an offseason casualty. then at [url="http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11410932"]http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_11410932[/url] they talk about the vikings pursuing him. Just a couple links...Seneca wallace played well but i doubt he is the permanent fix. And with the seahawks having a new coach i wouldnt be surprised to see some moves happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaverHunter Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Bernie Wells makes me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Sanchez won't go top 10 so it won't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='740270' date='Jan 15 2009, 02:52 PM']Sanchez won't go top 10 so it won't really matter.[/quote] I disagree. He's really good and I bet he goes ahead of Stafford. He's much more like Carson Palmer than Lienart as he has the same huge arm and strong pedigree (#1 recruit in the country). Lienart was a lesser talent who was made to look better by the talent around him. He never had the same arm strength as Palmer or Sanchez. I do think it helps the Bengals and the analysis above makes sense. I personally don't think Crabtree will go top 5. I do think Seattle will be in the market for a QB as even if Hasselbeck is brought back for another year, he's getting pretty old. Best case scenario is getting the #2 OT in the draft probably (assuming St. Louis takes the top guy). To me, Seattle is the real key as they badly need an OT as well. Just my opinion, but I think their choice comes down to QB or OT as it doesn't make any sense to take Crabtree that high if you have nobody to throw it to him and/or your QB has no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonGreen Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='740270' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:52 PM']Sanchez won't go top 10 so it won't really matter.[/quote] He is getting ALOT of Hype and some people say he is better then leinart cassel and palmer...which i think for the record is a joke...But nonetheless he may be picked ahead of stafford and being that qb is a huge value position especially for the lions and some other teams needing a qb the need may not be able to wait regardless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Who Dey Time' post='740259' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:36 PM']I don't know where you get that Hasselbeck is probably done but there should be an offensive lineman available for the taking at #6 1. Lions - Stafford, QB 2. Rams - Oher/Smith, OL 3. Chiefs - Orakpo, DE 4. Seahawks - Crabtree, WR 5. Browns - Curry, LB 6. Bengals - Oher/Smith, OL [b]Moreno becomes an option at 6 if Benson isn't brought back as well (please no!!!!!!!!!!)[/b][/quote] There are too many good RBs in this draft to pick one in 1 even if Benson does leave. RB is not one of our top 2 needs. Even if we lose Benson, OT and C need to be the first 2 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrlnutz Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I don't think the Browns will get Curry. I think Mangini's success in taking Revis and failure taking Gholston will play a role in the decision, as well as the fact that the Browns secondary was atrocious and they've tied up a lot of money in the front 7 in recent years. Jenkins will be on their radar for sure. But if they get a big time CB in free agency, then all bets are off, though I could see them taking crabtree to give Quinn another weapon as everything outside of Edwards and Winslow is garbage (and even they were incredibly disapopinting last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaltonGreen Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Squirrlnutz' post='740280' date='Jan 15 2009, 02:16 PM']I don't think the Browns will get Curry. I think Mangini's success in taking Revis and failure taking Gholston will play a role in the decision, as well as the fact that the Browns secondary was atrocious and they've tied up a lot of money in the front 7 in recent years. Jenkins will be on their radar for sure. But if they get a big time CB in free agency, then all bets are off, though I could see them taking crabtree to give Quinn another weapon as everything outside of Edwards and Winslow is garbage (and even they were incredibly disapopinting last year).[/quote] very good post right there...i believe they will indeed pick up a big FA corner and then what better way to give Quinn help but to draft Crabtree and have him next to Braylon and Winslow... Pretty much the way Free Agency pans out determines everything....who knows maybe we pick up julious peppers ,bart scott,and Birk and then who knows... (Then i wake up from my dream)...but if that did happen the doors would be wide open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Squirrlnutz' post='740280' date='Jan 15 2009, 02:16 PM']I don't think the Browns will get Curry. I think Mangini's success in taking Revis and failure taking Gholston will play a role in the decision, as well as the fact that the Browns secondary was atrocious and they've tied up a lot of money in the front 7 in recent years. Jenkins will be on their radar for sure. But if they get a big time CB in free agency, then all bets are off, though I could see them taking crabtree to give Quinn another weapon as everything outside of Edwards and Winslow is garbage (and even they were incredibly disapopinting last year).[/quote] I don't think the Gholston situation would stop him from drafting Curry. Gholston was a 4-3 DE playing OLB. Curry is an OLB. I agree that Jenkins may wind up the guy anyway, but he does, it will NOT be because of Vernon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrlnutz Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Jason' post='740292' date='Jan 15 2009, 03:41 PM']I don't think the Gholston situation would stop him from drafting Curry. Gholston was a 4-3 DE playing OLB. Curry is an OLB. I agree that Jenkins may wind up the guy anyway, but he does, it will NOT be because of Vernon.[/quote] Well it was certianly a stretch to say that previous failure would lead him to avoid the spot again. I think he is more of a believer in the system is what makes the front 7 work and not the players. Plus they were getting down right embarrassed with DBs actually leaving their feet and diving on double moves leaving guys running down the sideline with no brown in 50 yards. I think they will desperately try to trade down and get more picks considering they pretty much missed last years draft and the payoff (while it did make the DL better) was not worth it. If one of the top tackles is still on the board I could certianly see them trading down to acquire more picks and replenish the depth they didn't get last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Jason' post='740279' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:15 PM']There are too many good RBs in this draft to pick one in 1 even if Benson does leave. RB is not one of our top 2 needs. Even if we lose Benson, [b]OT and C need to be the first 2 picks[/b].[/quote] AMEN to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='TheBeaverHunter' post='740269' date='Jan 15 2009, 02:52 PM']Bernie Wells makes me laugh.[/quote] BERNIE, huh? BERNIE makes me laugh, TOO, but probably not for the same reason!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='Squirrlnutz' post='740294' date='Jan 15 2009, 02:50 PM']Well it was certianly a stretch to say that previous failure would lead him to avoid the spot again. I think he is more of a believer in the system is what makes the front 7 work and not the players. Plus they were getting down right embarrassed with DBs actually leaving their feet and diving on double moves leaving guys running down the sideline with no brown in 50 yards. I think they will desperately try to trade down and get more picks considering they pretty much missed last years draft and the payoff (while it did make the DL better) was not worth it. If one of the top tackles is still on the board I could certianly see them trading down to acquire more picks and replenish the depth they didn't get last year.[/quote] a trade for anderson might throw a monkey wrench into that scenario....which i see happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='bengaled' post='740313' date='Jan 15 2009, 03:48 PM']a trade for anderson might throw a monkey wrench into that scenario....which i see happening.[/quote] I don't think Anderson has much trade value, perhaps a 3rd at best. I'm curious whether the Browns will assume the cap goes away and spend freely or assume the cap is extended and act more cautiously. They need RB, WR, LB, and CB plus they might lose players in FA. They also haven't committed to Quinn as their QB and Mangini might figure he gets a losing season mulligan and think longer term or he might figure he was hired to get the 2007 10-6 team back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='TheBeaverHunter' post='740269' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:52 PM']Bernie Wells makes me laugh.[/quote] I spent a weekend at that guy's house once, and made a movie about it. Funny thing: he died and me and my pal had to pretend to everyone else that he was still alive so we could continue to crash at his sweet-ass crib! Good times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDeyThink Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Bernie goes some where between # 11 and 16th pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 [quote name='cantstop85' post='740273' date='Jan 15 2009, 03:02 PM']He is getting ALOT of Hype and some people say he is better then leinart cassel and palmer...which i think for the record is a joke...But nonetheless he may be picked ahead of stafford and being that qb is a huge value position especially for the lions and some other teams needing a qb the need may not be able to wait regardless[/quote] I can't say Sanchez will be better than all those pro quarterbacks. My sense though, is that he is, and will continue to be better than Stafford. I don't think much of Stafford at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValleyBengal Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 i've been listening to detroit local radio. All they are talking about is drafting a franchise left tackle and that they are looking at bringing in a vet (McNabb was mentioned). If that's the case, I can see Oher or Smith or maybe both be gone by the time we pick. Unfortunately Matt Millen is gone from Detroit, so they might actually draft non-skill positions earlier than they have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clevelandbengal Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 [quote name='ValleyBengal' post='740402' date='Jan 15 2009, 10:26 PM']i've been listening to detroit local radio. All they are talking about is drafting a franchise left tackle and that they are looking at bringing in a vet (McNabb was mentioned). If that's the case, I can see Oher or Smith or maybe both be gone by the time we pick. Unfortunately Matt Millen is gone from Detroit, so they might actually draft non-skill positions earlier than they have been.[/quote] Here in Cleveland everyone wants and talks about getting a defensive player. More specifically a dominating LB to play in a 3-4 since all of theirs suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 even if he is taken 7th, it helps us, it pushes SOMEONE back a pick in each round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 [quote name='clevelandbengal' post='740410' date='Jan 15 2009, 10:50 PM']Here in Cleveland everyone wants and talks about getting a defensive player. More specifically a dominating LB to play in a 3-4 since all of theirs suck.[/quote] Aaron Curry or Rey Meauluga would be the likely picks for Cleveland at #5 if that is the case. If they are looking for a pass rush specialist they might look at Everette Brown or Aaron Maybin. I think Seattle and Kansas City are also in need of help at linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 [quote name='GoBengals' post='740411' date='Jan 15 2009, 10:51 PM']even if he is taken 7th, it helps us, it pushes SOMEONE back a pick in each round.[/quote] yeah that's the only good news is see is him going 7-37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyIrishman5 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 [quote name='Who Dey Time' post='740259' date='Jan 15 2009, 01:36 PM']I don't know where you get that Hasselbeck is probably done but there should be an offensive lineman available for the taking at #6 1. Lions - Stafford, QB 2. Rams - Oher/Smith, OL 3. Chiefs - Orakpo, DE 4. Seahawks - Crabtree, WR 5. Browns - Curry, LB 6. Bengals - Oher/Smith, OL Moreno becomes an option at 6 if Benson isn't brought back as well (please no!!!!!!!!!!)[/quote] Here how I see the top 6 going, 1. Lions - Stafford, QB 2. Rams - Curry, LB 3. Chiefs - Sanchez, QB 4. Seahawks - Crabtree, WR 5. Browns - Orakpo, DE 6. Bengals - Smith, OL :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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