SocalBengalEd Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1325994230' post='1086820'] [/b] was he playing guard or tackle? [/quote] Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='Jason' timestamp='1325994801' post='1086826'] Watching the way Sproles is lighting up the Lions, I am really starting to like the idea of LaMichael James (or Jeff Demps or Rainey). [/quote] what round do you predict demps will go in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='SocalBengalEd' timestamp='1325995831' post='1086842'] Both. [/quote] I do agree with you though. Glenn looks 10x better at guard then tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Just looked up Demps. Little fucker is fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='bengaled' timestamp='1325995994' post='1086845'] what round do you predict demps will go in?[/quote] That's hard to say right now. Most of the rankings I have seen have him in the 5th round range. But if he runs what I think he will at the combine he could go in 3 and it wouldn't surprise me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='bengaled' timestamp='1325995994' post='1086845'] what round do you predict demps will go in? [/quote] the projections I've seen are 4th or 5th though there is talk that teams will fall in love with his speed. I don't think I ever realized how small sproles is, just looked it up. I knew he was short, but he weighs about 15-20lbs less than I thought he did. Makes me much more interested in Demps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='SocalBengalEd' timestamp='1325996044' post='1086848'] I do agree with you though. Glenn looks 10x better at guard then tackle. [/quote] yea that's where he's projected and at his best. I think he could come right in and play one of the guard spots, and be Andre's (and maybe whit's) backup if Collins leaves. This will be an interesting offseason. Someone started a thread about it in the draft section, but the progression of guys like Boling, Mays, Moch, Sands, and Cochart are going to have HUGE ramfications on the immediate future of this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 In last years game tape Glenn was superior to Boling from the you tube clips I've seen. I don't like him at tackle but maybe your right he looks a lot better at guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 After watching Houston today, I would use two of the first three picks on interior line. Those guys were blocking well, stuffing the run, and just relentlessly getting to Andy Dalton. Not to mention, we could not stop the run today for whatever reason. We haven't been good at stopping the run since Pat went down it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalsCat Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 lol first two rounds in my mind are cb guard and running back. watching af cutting back made me drool for someone who would do it for our team i dont think DE is a strech either for this squad we have had problems stopping the run late season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboi Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 after what I saw saturday, I hab to change my mock draft pick's a little bit .bengals should go after a runningback michael bush, and think about drafting a runningback in 2013. 1 devon still dt 1 kevin zeithler og 2 chase minnifeld cb 3 jared crick dt/de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='BengalsCat' timestamp='1326003037' post='1086967'] lol first two rounds in my mind are cb guard and running back. watching af cutting back made me drool for someone who would do it for our team i dont think DE is a strech either for this squad we have had problems stopping the run late season [/quote] I think the #17 pick will be for need. The #21 or #22 pick (TBD today) though I think will be used on BPA, or I think there's a real chance this year they trade down and pick up an extra 2nd rounder if there's not someone they really want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='bigboi' timestamp='1326020233' post='1087005'] after what I saw saturday, I hab to change my mock draft pick's a little bit .bengals should go after a runningback michael bush, and think about drafting a runningback in 2013. 1 devon still dt 1 kevin zeithler og 2 chase minnifeld cb 3 jared crick dt/de [/quote] Why the hell would we waste a 1st on a DT??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='bigboi' timestamp='1326020233' post='1087005'] after what I saw saturday, I hab to change my mock draft pick's a little bit .bengals should go after a runningback michael bush, and think about drafting a runningback in 2013. 1 devon still dt 1 kevin zeithler og 2 chase minnifeld cb 3 jared crick dt/de [/quote] Not a fan of Devon Still. And (hoping) Sims comes back, this isn't nearly the need that interior OL and CB are, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='akiliMVP' timestamp='1326031700' post='1087049'] Why the hell would we waste a 1st on a DT??????? [/quote] I wouldn't do it with pick #17, but I won't be shocked if they go Dline with the second first rounder if its BPA. They are faced with losing Rucker, Fanene, and/or Sims in free agency. That's 25% of their stats. Now I think they keep 2 of the 3, but I still think the dline can be added to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabengals12 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I think drafting a RB higher than rd 3 is dangerous ( look @ our recent history for ex.) RB are a dime a dozen. Just look what Foster did to us yesterday for proof that you can get a great RB anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326033731' post='1087069'] I think drafting a RB higher than rd 3 is dangerous ( look @ our recent history for ex.) RB are a dime a dozen. Just look what Foster did to us yesterday for proof that you can get a great RB anywhere. [/quote] At the same time, most of the top RBs in the NFL were drafted in the 1st or 2nd round. Waiting until the mid to late rounds to fill a huge hole at starting RB is a recipe for disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326033731' post='1087069'] I think drafting a RB higher than rd 3 is dangerous ( look @ our recent history for ex.) RB are a dime a dozen. Just look what Foster did to us yesterday for proof that you can get a great RB anywhere. [/quote] If we had Darren Sproles, we'd be dangerous as heck on offense. We'll find out this offseason if the staff agrees. Benson and Scott are both backs that don't fit Gruden's system, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 The more I think about it, the more I want two defenders in the first. The defense usually kept us close all year. I say improve our strength while the young guys on offense grow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabengals12 Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 A recipe for Kenny Irons, or Chris Perry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='dabengals12' timestamp='1326035260' post='1087082'] A recipe for Kenny Irons, or Chris Perry? [/quote] You can't draft like that. Just because 2 guys we drafted 5 years ago were injury prone doesn't mean every RB we take in the 1st or 2nd will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 I really like Tolbert to come in and be a bell cow next year. I'd like to get Isaiah Pead in the mid-rounds to replace Bernard. Get Cordy Glenn with one of our picks and I think you might have the run game fixed. I do agree with what someone said in adding some pieces to that defense to make it elite. If you get another guy who can occupy blockers and a cornerback, it improves this team tremendously. Stop the run and put them in third and long situations and get turnovers that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1326036697' post='1087093'] I really like Tolbert to come in and be a bell cow next year. I'd like to get Isaiah Pead in the mid-rounds to replace Bernard. Get Cordy Glenn with one of our picks and I think you might have the run game fixed. I do agree with what someone said in adding some pieces to that defense to make it elite. If you get another guy who can occupy blockers and a cornerback, it improves this team tremendously. Stop the run and put them in third and long situations and get turnovers that way. [/quote] I know it's sad to say, but Tolbert has more wiggle than Benson. However, I don't think he can change direction and keep a high enough speed to do well here. The type of back we need is someone who can cut back on a dime. How many times has Benson, this year, cut back and took it to the non play side for a big gain? Zero. We need a Chris Johnson or MJD type back. Those bigger backs, even Bush and probably Tolbert, isn't going to do anything other than what Benson did this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASTYNATI Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1326039010' post='1087109'] I know it's sad to say, but Tolbert has more wiggle than Benson. However, I don't think he can change direction and keep a high enough speed to do well here. The type of back we need is someone who can cut back on a dime. How many times has Benson, this year, cut back and took it to the non play side for a big gain? Zero. We need a Chris Johnson or MJD type back. Those bigger backs, even Bush and probably Tolbert, isn't going to do anything other than what Benson did this year. [/quote] With the current line I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unleashed Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 [quote name='NASTYNATI' timestamp='1326039750' post='1087115'] With the current line I agree 100%[/quote] Bingo. A good offensive line makes a mediocre running back look like an all pro. Eliminating the d line and making the next step up to linebackers from our oline means that the running back has 2 to 3 less defenders to avoid. I remember a few years ago, Rudi Johnson's longest run was 13 yards. If a guy is consistently hit in the backfield, even a great runningback will struggle. Not saying Rudi was great but 13 yards is pathetic. Get 2 monster guards and a decent running back like bush and the results will speak for themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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