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More on the Jets fight.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/day-jets-brawl-ryan-punishes-142755181--nfl.html




CORTLAND, N.Y. (AP) -- Rex Ryan ordered his players to cut out all the nonsense.
When the [i][url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj"]New York Jets[/url][/i] ignored their coach, it was time to run. And run some more.
A day after a 20-player throwdown highlighted a chippy practice, Ryan had his players run a series of sprints Tuesday as punishment for a few minor scuffles on the field.
''It's just part of training camp,'' safety [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/players/97662"]Eric Smith[/url] said. ''We're out there banging around, it gets hot and people get frustrated. Tempers escalate.''
With most of the media off to the side speaking with owner Woody Johnson, a few players got into it and Ryan immediately called everyone over to tell them to be physical, but smart and not selfish. There was another skirmish a few minutes later involving cornerback [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7768"]Antonio Cromartie[/url] and tight end Dustin Keller, and Ryan immediately shouted at his players and had them all line up on the sideline.
Every player on the Jets (No. 17 in the AP Pro32), from the quarterbacks to the kickers, was then ordered to run about 10 gassers - sprints from sideline to sideline - for at least 10 minutes.
''You know, as a big guy, you never want to be running gassers,'' said 305-pound defensive lineman Mike DeVito. ''No fight is worth running gassers when you're over 300 pounds. It gets guys' minds reset and back to focusing on playing football and not the extra stuff.''
Added Smith: ''I was just listening for that double whistle so we could stop.''
Ryan, with his hands on his hips, watched as his players did each lap, and then spoke to his team again in a raised tone before resuming practice.
''He knows we're a physical team, but we need to take care of each other,'' Smith said when asked what Ryan told the players. ''We're not being good teammates right now.''
It was the angriest Ryan had been during a practice with the media watching in his three-plus years as coach. Several of the players said it was the first time they had ever had to run gassers during practice.
''He's tired of it,'' DeVito said.
On Monday, about 20 players were involved in a brief brawl after running back [url="http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/24087"]Joe McKnight[/url] and safety D'Anton Lynn tangled following a play. Lynn, the son of Jets running backs coach Anthony Lynn, shoved McKnight out of bounds. An angry McKnight then fired the football at Lynn.
The two got into it, with McKnight charging Lynn and throwing a punch that didn't land. Lynn then pushed McKnight - with help from cornerbacks Julian Posey and Donnie Fletcher - and all four went rolling through advertisement placards and into an area where reporters were watching practice, and several players jumped in.
Ryan refused to call it a ''melee'' and added that he had seen worse fights since coming to New York, particularly in his first year. But for a team coming off a disappointing season that was derailed in large part by in-fighting by players in the locker room, Ryan has been determined to maintain control - something he has repeatedly acknowledged he didn't have last season.
When Cromartie said last week that he thought he would rank as the second-best wide receiver on the team, Chaz Schilens said it was ''a slight,'' and it was the first sign of disharmony. Ryan addressed the squad as soon as he heard both players' comments and told everyone to be mindful of what they say in public to not hurt the team.
The Jets have one more day of practice in Cortland before their preseason opener Friday at Cincinnati.
''I think the guys are just eager to hit somebody else,'' wide receiver Santonio Holmes said. ''They're taking their frustration a little bit out on each other, which shows what happens in training camp around this time, all around the NFL. You look at other teams, I'm pretty sure guys have gotten into fights throughout their practice days. The same thing with us guys. ... Cincinnati can't come fast enough for these guys right now.''
So, Round 3 on Wednesday?
''I bet we don't have one tomorrow,'' Smith said, laughing.
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Preseason is preseason but I hope they crush the Jets. At least give that lockeroom an annoyance of doubt from the media after a bad performance.


Also a good measuring stick. From memory the Bengals looked ass horrible in the game last year at least in the first quarter, then turned it on later.

Bengals were last ones in the playoffs and I think the Jets were the next in line or not far behind.
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Browns have named their 43 year old rookie the starting QB. I guess he looked pretty good in the first pre season games. Oh, never mind.

My favorite part of the story is listening to Wedden proclaim he had busted his tail for 10 straight practices. Super Bowl bound.


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Browns have named their 43 year old rookie the starting QB. I guess he looked pretty good in the first pre season games. Oh, never mind.

My favorite part of the story is listening to Wedden proclaim he had busted his tail for 10 straight practices. Super Bowl bound.


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I was watching NFLN and they were talking to Colt McCoy and he seemed like he was going to cry, it was hilarious.
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[b] Don't worry about Richardson's knee -- yet[/b]


[url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cle/cleveland-browns"]Cleveland Browns[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] running back [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14884/trent-richardson"]Trent Richardson[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3], the third overall pick and projected centerpiece of the offense, could miss the preseason opener with a sore left knee. [/size][/font][/color]


[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]There's no reason to worry right now. This could be precautionary. This could be an injury that goes away after a couple days of rest. This really could be no big deal. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]But there is reason to worry if this becomes a trend. The fact this is the same knee that underwent arthroscopic surgery on Feb. 3 has to cause some uneasiness for the Dawg Pound. And the fact Richardson declined to talk to reporters about the knee doesn't clear up anything about the severity of the injury. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]“We’re evaluating it,” coach Pat Shurmur told reporters, via [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=2851"]WKNR in Cleveland[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]. “There’s a chance he won’t play on Friday. I’m always concerned about injuries, but at this point we’ll just find out what it is. He’s been practicing well. Just a little sore.” [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]There's really no reason to play Richardson Friday and put the knee at further risk. The Browns' focus has to be to get Richardson ready for the regular-season opener and not the preseason one. Richardson has had some issues getting on the practice field recently. He was removed from Saturday's practice with a headache before sitting out Tuesday with the sore knee. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]At this point, it's wait-and-see mode for the Browns.[/size][/font][/color]

[url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/52056/dont-worry-about-richardsons-knee-yet"]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/52056/dont-worry-about-richardsons-knee-yet[/url]
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[url="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Raiders"][s]#[/s][b]Raiders[/b][/url] RT [url="https://twitter.com/CBSSportsNFLOAK"][s]@[/s][b]CBSSportsNFLOAK[/b][/url]: RB Mike Goodson is in an ambulence, strapped onto a stretcher, after a helmet-to-helmet collision.[/background][/font][/color]
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Browns announce rookie RB Trent Richardson will have knee evaluated by Dr. James Andrews[/background][/font][/color]
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[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Browns announce rookie RB Trent Richardson will have knee evaluated by Dr. James Andrews[/background][/font][/color]
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And Cleveland gasps for air... holy shit that has to be scary for a Cleveland fan.

Hopefully, for them, it's just precautionary but DAMN that has to be disheartening.
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Browns announce rookie RB Trent Richardson will have knee evaluated by Dr. James Andrews[/background][/font][/color]
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I hate the Browns but I don't wish injury on anyone. Hope Richardson comes back. This doesn't apply to the Stealers, fuck them.
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[b] Report: Haden facing possible suspension[/b]


[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Browns cornerback Joe Haden could receive a four-game suspension from the NFL, sources told [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=2901"]WKNR in Cleveland[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]One source told WKNR that Haden tested positive for the prescription drug Adderall, a banned substance in the NFL that is commonly prescribed to treat attention deficit disorder and narcolepsy, during a routine offseason test. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]The site is reporting that Haden has been notified of a positive first test and would be suspended if a second test from the original sample shows up positive. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]A Browns spokesman declined comment on the report. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Haden is considered one of the top young cornerbacks in the league. This would be the latest hit to a defense that might be without three starters in the season opener. Outside linebacker Chris Gocong (Achilles) is out for the season, defensive tackle Phil Taylor (pectoral muscle) is expected to be sidelined for at least the first six games and outside linebacker Scott Fujita (suspension) is scheduled to miss the first three games. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]The NFL didn't immediately respond to an email from ESPN.com.[/size][/font][/color]

[url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/52143/report-haden-facing-possible-suspension"]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/52143/report-haden-facing-possible-suspension[/url]
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It sounds like Trent Richardson may need surgery which would have him out 4-8 weeks. The Bengals play the Browns week 2 and week 6. I think there's a pretty good chance we'll miss him the first game. But he'll probably be back for game 6 (unless they decide to put him on PUP for the extra roster space...)

Overall, that first game could be quite a bit easier than expected. No Richardson on offense. No Joe Haden or Phil Taylor on defense. Also they will be without 2 starting LBs (Chris Gocong out for season and Scott Fujita suspended 3 games due to the Saints bounty scandal). They are going to be really short and they weren't even going to be very good with all of those guys.
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[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1344453037' post='1144096']
[b] Report: Haden facing possible suspension[/b]


[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Browns cornerback Joe Haden could receive a four-game suspension from the NFL, sources told [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=2901"]WKNR in Cleveland[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]One source told WKNR that Haden tested positive for the prescription drug Adderall, a banned substance in the NFL that is commonly prescribed to treat attention deficit disorder and narcolepsy, during a routine offseason test. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]The site is reporting that Haden has been notified of a positive first test and would be suspended if a second test from the original sample shows up positive. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]A Browns spokesman declined comment on the report. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]Haden is considered one of the top young cornerbacks in the league. This would be the latest hit to a defense that might be without three starters in the season opener. Outside linebacker Chris Gocong (Achilles) is out for the season, defensive tackle Phil Taylor (pectoral muscle) is expected to be sidelined for at least the first six games and outside linebacker Scott Fujita (suspension) is scheduled to miss the first three games. [/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]The NFL didn't immediately respond to an email from ESPN.com.[/size][/font][/color]

[url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/52143/report-haden-facing-possible-suspension"]http://espn.go.com/b...ible-suspension[/url]
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Its also sold as a street drug as it has similar effects to amphetamines. Oh well.
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I am all too familiar with Adderall. My son was prescribed it through my exwife since he was 9 years old and that was in 1997. Call me old fashion but I am not a believer in how kids are diagnosed ADD or ADHD (as it referred to today). I won't get into all of that, but for those of you have young boys in school, do anything and everything to look for other ways when a teacher tells you your kid is ADHD.

These are very powerful drugs. Moreso than most people think. They are more addictive and powerful than other prescription drugs we are familiar with in valium, percocets, and the like when abused. They also have behavorial side affects.

When people say... "what is the big deal, its just adderall". They have know fucking clue what they are talking about when it is being used recreationally, abused, or even under some sad misdiagnosis.
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Trent Richardson's visit to Dr. Andrews includes tentatively scheduled arthroscopic surgery to clean up loose particle of cartilage [url="https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23Browns"][s]#[/s][b]Browns[/b][/url][/background][/font][/color]

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Richardson's surgery would be considered as proactive minor procedure; a "hang nail particle" not related to meniscus repair on same knee[/background][/font][/color]
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[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)][url="https://twitter.com/mortreport"][b]Chris Mortensen[/b] ‏[size=3][s]@[/s][b]mortreport[/b][/size][/url][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Trent Richardson's visit to Dr. Andrews includes tentatively scheduled arthroscopic surgery to clean up loose particle of cartilage [url="https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23Browns"][s]#[/s][b]Browns[/b][/url][/background][/font][/color]


[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)][url="https://twitter.com/mortreport"][b]Chris Mortensen[/b] ‏[size=3][s]@[/s][b]mortreport[/b][/size][/url][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#333333][font=Arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]Richardson's surgery would be considered as proactive minor procedure; a "hang nail particle" not related to meniscus repair on same knee[/background][/font][/color]
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I had the "hang nail particle" surgery. Certainly wasn't under the care of TR nor the elite athlete he was. But you still feel it and specifically the weakness. But coming back from these injuries too soon for a 1st round investment? We have seen a couple guys gut it out and come back. In hindsite, probably not the best decision. My guess is Geather had one of these. Glad to see the Bengals are taking a very precautionary approach.
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[quote name='Phatcat' timestamp='1344461436' post='1144123']
I am all too familiar with Adderall. My son was prescribed it through my exwife since he was 9 years old and that was in 1997. Call me old fashion but I am not a believer in how kids are diagnosed ADD or ADHD (as it referred to today). I won't get into all of that, but for those of you have young boys in school, do anything and everything to look for other ways when a teacher tells you your kid is ADHD.

These are very powerful drugs. Moreso than most people think. They are more addictive and powerful than other prescription drugs we are familiar with in valium, percocets, and the like when abused. They also have behavorial side affects.

When people say... "what is the big deal, its just adderall". They have know fucking clue what they are talking about when it is being used recreationally, abused, or even under some sad misdiagnosis.
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Adderall is huge in college - HUGE. Easily accessible and not very expensive. It's used as a study drug; helps you to focus for long periods of time. I've used it before to study for finals and it makes a world of difference. Much less common for it to be used as a party drug, but when combined with alcohol or snorted you do get a small "high".

It's also ridiculously easy to get prescribed. You pretty much just go to the doctor and tell them you can't pay attention in class. You may have to take a test, but if you know how to answer, boom, prescription.

Anyways, back to football :25:

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Richardson is expected to be ready for season opener, if not sooner[url="https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23Browns&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]Browns[/b][/url] [url="https://twitter.com/search/?q=%23ESPN&src=hash"][s]#[/s][b]ESPN[/b][/url][/background][/font][/color]

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Just spoke to ESPN Medical Expert Dr. Michael Kaplan. Even in this "minor scope surgery" his forecast little more cautionary on Richardson.[/background][/font][/color]

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RT [url="https://twitter.com/JTRIII3"][s]@[/s][b]JTRIII3[/b][/url] there's no such thing as "minor surgery" >> As[url="https://twitter.com/markschlereth"][s]@[/s][b]markschlereth[/b][/url] cracks, "it's only minor if it's not you having it."[/background][/font][/color]
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