Vikings backup QB Kellen Mond has tested positive for covid. So he's out until he puts several negative tests in a row together. More interestingly, the other Vikes QB have to quarantine due to their close contact with Mond. Cousins is a vet but that should still set their offense back for opening day.

Ah the "keeping our enemies close" thread, was wondering when the 2021 iteration would appear.

 

I believe Cousins is unvaccinated? Could be more trouble ahead for them. Hey, their loss is our gain (from a competitive standpoint that is, I'm not cheering on illness by any means)

Cousins has been out as a close contact to Monds since camp opened. He should be back later this week, but does run risk of Covid acquisition since he is unvaccinated. Zimmer is REALLY pissed about low rate of vaccination on the Vikings (they are still only around 70%). 

Maybe back today for Cousins.

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, membengal said:

Maybe back today for Cousins.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I was a teammate I would tell him I will kick his balls into Canada if he gets COVID during the season and costs them a W. 

2 hours ago, membengal said:

Maybe back today for Cousins.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good for Kurt, plexiglass sounds reasonable and logical...definitely more scientific 

I'm definitely rooting for him to do more of his own research and prove everyone wrong. Go for it Kirk. Put on that lab coat and turn on the Bunsen burners. 

3 hours ago, membengal said:

I'm definitely rooting for him to do more of his own research and prove everyone wrong. Go for it Kirk. Put on that lab coat and turn on the Bunsen burners. 

Kirk in the locker room  

 

 

 

 

😂

Pittsburgh sucks.

16 hours ago, UncleEarl said:

 

If I was a teammate I would tell him I will kick his balls into Canada if he gets COVID during the season and costs them a W. 

 

 

Same. 

15 hours ago, PatternMaster said:

 

Good for Kurt, plexiglass sounds reasonable and logical...definitely more scientific 

 

 

 

30 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

 

 

 

 

The funny part is right before he says that he says he willing to do whatever it takes to win.....except the one thing that literally everyone is asking him to do, you know Zim is pissed..

Just now, PatternMaster said:

 

The funny part is right before he says that he says he willing to do whatever it takes to win.....except the one thing that literally everyone is asking him to do, you know Zim is pissed..

 

 

He must have read the ScIeNcE oN bOtH sIdEs

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/06/lamar-jackson-misses-eighth-practice-during-stint-on-covid-reserve-list/

 

Lamar Jackson misses eighth practice during stint on COVID reserve list

 

As the Ravens prepare for the regular season, franchise quarterback Lamar Jackson continues to be absent.

Jackson, who is unvaccinated, tested positive for COVID in late July. Per the league’s protocols, he must be absent for at least 10 days.

While it’s better that it happens now than during the regular season (although it’s not ideal that he’s missing so many practices), the chance lingers of something like this occurring once the season begins. For unvaccinated players, a positive test triggers an automatic 10-day break. For unvaccinated players, close contact with someone who has tested positive results in a minimum absence of five days.

 

If vaccinated, close contact results in no absence. If vaccinated, a player can return from a positive test after generating two negative outcomes at least 24 hours apart.

That’s where the competitive advantage (if vaccinated) or disadvantage (if unvaccinated) comes from. And while that approach applies to all players, the starting quarterback continues to be the most important person on a roster. Any starting quarterback who isn’t vaccinated faces the continuous risk of suddenly being gone for five days or 10 days or longer.

 

That’s why so many coaches and executives and owners are apoplectic about vaccine hesitancy among players. With so many experts (true experts, not just people with social-media accounts) give full-throated endorsements to getting vaccinated, people whose ability to do the thing they love to do is enhanced by getting vaccinated still won’t listen. It’s hard not to imagine this irrational stubbornness not impacting the relationship between player and team for years to come, whether it’s Jackson and the Ravens, Kirk Cousins and the Vikings, or any other starting quarterback or key player and the team that employs him.

On 8/6/2021 at 10:10 AM, Griever said:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/06/lamar-jackson-misses-eighth-practice-during-stint-on-covid-reserve-list/

 

Lamar Jackson misses eighth practice during stint on COVID reserve list

 

As the Ravens prepare for the regular season, franchise quarterback Lamar Jackson continues to be absent.

Jackson, who is unvaccinated, tested positive for COVID in late July. Per the league’s protocols, he must be absent for at least 10 days.

While it’s better that it happens now than during the regular season (although it’s not ideal that he’s missing so many practices), the chance lingers of something like this occurring once the season begins. For unvaccinated players, a positive test triggers an automatic 10-day break. For unvaccinated players, close contact with someone who has tested positive results in a minimum absence of five days.

 

If vaccinated, close contact results in no absence. If vaccinated, a player can return from a positive test after generating two negative outcomes at least 24 hours apart.

That’s where the competitive advantage (if vaccinated) or disadvantage (if unvaccinated) comes from. And while that approach applies to all players, the starting quarterback continues to be the most important person on a roster. Any starting quarterback who isn’t vaccinated faces the continuous risk of suddenly being gone for five days or 10 days or longer.

 

That’s why so many coaches and executives and owners are apoplectic about vaccine hesitancy among players. With so many experts (true experts, not just people with social-media accounts) give full-throated endorsements to getting vaccinated, people whose ability to do the thing they love to do is enhanced by getting vaccinated still won’t listen. It’s hard not to imagine this irrational stubbornness not impacting the relationship between player and team for years to come, whether it’s Jackson and the Ravens, Kirk Cousins and the Vikings, or any other starting quarterback or key player and the team that employs him.

 

Exactly, why would any owner or GM want a player that refuses the vaccine,  especially when literally everyone else has it. 

 

I would have a hard time giving a QB hundreds of millions of dollars if they are refusing the vaccine for stupid reasons.  I would seriously question their ability to make smart decisions....Cousins saying he's goung to surround himself in plexiglass....he's bubble boy...lol

 

 

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/08/06/josh-allen-bills-have-a-new-deal/

 

Katie to Mikey: "We're going to need a bigger check book". (Or Cheque book if you are Canadian)

 

In case you are wondering how Teven Jenkins is doing in Bears camp...

 

 

It's odd that the NFL is applying the same rules to players like Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton as to people who haven't had covid. They have antibodies and recovery from covid is as good as being vaccinated. The NFL should catch up.

12 minutes ago, sparky151 said:

It's odd that the NFL is applying the same rules to players like Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton as to people who haven't had covid. They have antibodies and recovery from covid is as good as being vaccinated. The NFL should catch up.

I haven’t dug into this much (just did a quick search), but I don’t think they know if this is actually the case at this point:

 

“These findings suggest that among persons with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, full vaccination provides additional protection against reinfection.”

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm from August 6th.

 

 

 

The point of vaccination is to stimulate the body to produce antibodies. That's what happens to people with covid who recover anyway. There are a number of studies showing that recovery from covid is stronger than vaccination, but vaccination is easier to track for record keeping, so bureaucracies seem to favor it. Some colleges are requiring their students to be vaccinated and are accepting things like Sinovac which doesn't work as well as the US approved vaccines, let alone recovery. But colleges depend on forgeign students paying full rate so they pretend otherwise.

4 hours ago, sparky151 said:

The point of vaccination is to stimulate the body to produce antibodies. That's what happens to people with covid who recover anyway. There are a number of studies showing that recovery from covid is stronger than vaccination, but vaccination is easier to track for record keeping, so bureaucracies seem to favor it. Some colleges are requiring their students to be vaccinated and are accepting things like Sinovac which doesn't work as well as the US approved vaccines, let alone recovery. But colleges depend on forgeign students paying full rate so they pretend otherwise.

"Stimulating the body to produce antibodies"  sounds kind of contradictory or something.

Kind of like "Boinking for chastity".

Or drafting Jackson Cartman in the second round when Sam Cosmi, Dillon Radunz, Creed Humphrey and Joseph Ossai were still on the board.  What?  Never mind.

6 hours ago, sparky151 said:

The point of vaccination is to stimulate the body to produce antibodies. That's what happens to people with covid who recover anyway. There are a number of studies showing that recovery from covid is stronger than vaccination, but vaccination is easier to track for record keeping, so bureaucracies seem to favor it. Some colleges are requiring their students to be vaccinated and are accepting things like Sinovac which doesn't work as well as the US approved vaccines, let alone recovery. But colleges depend on forgeign students paying full rate so they pretend otherwise.

 

It's not like vaccination removes antibodies developed from having COVID.  The real question is how long to antibodies from illness or vaccination last?  Initial info looks like 3-6 months in most people. 

On 8/7/2021 at 10:25 AM, Montana Bengal said:

I haven’t dug into this much (just did a quick search), but I don’t think they know if this is actually the case at this point:

 

“These findings suggest that among persons with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection, full vaccination provides additional protection against reinfection.”

 

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm from August 6th.

 

 

 

The problem is the vaccines do not prevent  you from getting the Delta Variant which is extremely contagious.  The vaccines and previous bout with Covid do reduce the symptoms significantly but the NFL standard is to PASS the Covid test.