T-Dub Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 10 hours ago, sparky151 said: Nonsense. Browning was a guy on the league's fringe for several years. When he got a chance, he played well. He was more efficient than a lot of other team's QBs such as Mayfield, Watson, Flacco, Carr, Fields, etc. Don't forget Pickett. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKOTA Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 14 hours ago, sparky151 said: That's a ....take, I guess. Pretty stupid one but go ahead and double down. Playing QB is mostly about decision-making and throwing accuracy. Browning has those. He's not a physical specimen but doesn't need to be. Lots of guys like that have succeeded in the NFL including one playing this weekend. In a league where teams started guys like Heinicke, Zappe, Simien, Beathard, Stidham, Ridder, O'Connell, Dobbs, etc, Browning has value. Maybe we saw his best ever football but even after there was tape of him, he continued to play well. He's 3 years away from UFA status while having been through 5 training camps. He's certainly a better bet than Tommy DeVito or whomever. NFL teams will give up decent compensation for a QB upgrade. Your argument that he can't take Chase and Higgins with him is silly as a new team will have their own receivers and those are easier to find than a solid QB. Nobody is giving a draft pick for Jake Browning. Nobody. You can cope as much as you’d like and try to convince yourself he’s a valuable piece to a franchise, but he’s simply a dime a dozen player. And to say other teams will have weapons comparable to Chase and Higgins is just foolish. But par for the course with you. It’s funny how logic escapes the mind when needing to win an argument. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKOTA Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 14 hours ago, T-Dub said: Don't forget Pickett. And yet every NFL team would rather have any of those guys, maybe aside from Flacco for a variety of reasons, over Browning. Yes, even Pickett. I would actually take Flacco over Browning if only needed for 5-6 games or less. Browning is an extremely limited QB with a very low ceiling. Hmm, TDub and Sparky internet GMs of the Year’s opinions or NFL execs opinions. Tough one here… Maybe the Bengals have offers for him, but are holding out for that top 5 pick he’s going to warrant because he’s more efficient than 5 QBs that Sparky listed? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 I have it on good authority that the Bengals will go RT in Round 1. That good authority is all the mocks drafts I have done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 22 hours ago, IKOTA said: And yet every NFL team would rather have any of those guys, maybe aside from Flacco for a variety of reasons, over Browning. Yes, even Pickett. I would actually take Flacco over Browning if only needed for 5-6 games or less. Browning is an extremely limited QB with a very low ceiling. Hmm, TDub and Sparky internet GMs of the Year’s opinions or NFL execs opinions. Tough one here… Maybe the Bengals have offers for him, but are holding out for that top 5 pick he’s going to warrant because he’s more efficient than 5 QBs that Sparky listed? I see you're still stuck on stupid. You probably thought Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf would be great NFL QBs. You can go to NFL.com and sort the passing stats yourself but I've done the work for you. Everyone has an opinion, let's look at actual results. Here are first year starters from 2023. Most are rookie but Browning and Love are included. Here is Browning compared to some other prominent QBs. He doesn't look out of place there does, he? But nobody would give up more than a 6th for that level of production according to you. Here he is Browning compared to the last 5 QBs taken as the #1 overall pick. Hm. Your insistence that no other NFL team would give more than a late round pick for Browning doesn't seem to have much basis in reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKOTA Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, sparky151 said: I see you're still stuck on stupid. You probably thought Jamarcus Russell and Ryan Leaf would be great NFL QBs. You can go to NFL.com and sort the passing stats yourself but I've done the work for you. Everyone has an opinion, let's look at actual results. Here are first year starters from 2023. Most are rookie but Browning and Love are included. Here is Browning compared to some other prominent QBs. He doesn't look out of place there does, he? But nobody would give up more than a 6th for that level of production according to you. Here he is Browning compared to the last 5 QBs taken as the #1 overall pick. Hm. Your insistence that no other NFL team would give more than a late round pick for Browning doesn't seem to have much basis in reality. You’re right about one thing, I am stuck on stupid/you, as I keep replying. You know what, I’m with you now after seeing how efficient browning is. I say hold out for a top 10 pick or no Browning for all these teams that have lined up to acquire him via giving up draft picks. How many teams do you think have offered a good pick? I’ll say at least 12 or so. They’re just doing a great job of keeping it a secret because they don’t want the other nfl execs, who obviously aren’t as smart, to know Brownings true value (so damn efficient). 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Nice X thread on some guys to look at. At 18 some guys that stand out: Byron Muprhy(!!!) Mims Fuaga Latu Powers-Johnson Mitchell Dejean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Mock draft Monday 18. Taliese FuagaOT Oregon State 49. Ladd McConkeyWR Georgia 80. Ben SinnottTE Kansas State 115. Michael Hall Jr.DT Ohio State 147. Marshawn LloydRB USC 174. Jarius MonroeCB Tulane 195. Bryan AddisonS Oregon 234. Kenneth HorseyOG Kentucky 251. Marcus HarrisDT Auburn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: Mock draft Monday 18. Taliese FuagaOT Oregon State 49. Ladd McConkeyWR Georgia 80. Ben SinnottTE Kansas State 115. Michael Hall Jr.DT Ohio State 147. Marshawn LloydRB USC 174. Jarius MonroeCB Tulane 195. Bryan AddisonS Oregon 234. Kenneth HorseyOG Kentucky 251. Marcus HarrisDT Auburn Nice draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, spicoli said: Good one.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 8 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Mock draft Monday 18. Taliese FuagaOT Oregon State 49. Ladd McConkeyWR Georgia IDK who he is but I want McConkey on the team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, T-Dub said: IDK who he is but I want McConkey on the team. Georgia WR, killed it at the Sr. Bowl. Was mocked to us in the 2nd by Dan Brugler of the Athletic. Seems like a Boyd replacement from what I have read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 53 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Georgia WR, killed it at the Sr. Bowl. Was mocked to us in the 2nd by Dan Brugler of the Athletic. Seems like a Boyd replacement from what I have read. Dude sells the route, really good vision setting up his blockers and finding soft spots in coverage. Some nice contested catches as well. Might have to learn the hard way when to go for YAC and when to just make the catch and protect himself, he's not going to juke NFL safeties that easily. Looks pretty seasoned for a college kid overall though, like he could be getting snaps right away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 5 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Dude sells the route, really good vision setting up his blockers and finding soft spots in coverage. Some nice contested catches as well. Might have to learn the hard way when to go for YAC and when to just make the catch and protect himself, he's not going to juke NFL safeties that easily. Looks pretty seasoned for a college kid overall though, like he could be getting snaps right away. If Sweat isnt there when we are up in 2, and this kid is I'm taking him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Dane Brugler has an updated Top 100 https://theathletic.com/5270481/2024/02/13/nfl-draft-2024-prospect-rankings-top-100/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 * No Panthers or Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOC Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 If we're taking a Bulldog in Round 2 I'd rather it be this guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Top 10 you mean? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Bowers isnt going to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|BlackJesus| Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Never too early to look ahead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Production > Potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: Bowers isnt going to be there. ... I would say less than a 5% chance. But if he was, you have to take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 So many blowhards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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