|kennethmw| Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Looks like they're getting started on J Joe's extension. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5289124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 YYYYEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah15 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 When was the last time mike brown pitched over 40m for a corner?? I know damn well jjoe is gonna want to get paid hella. One thing that bothers me is that 49ers corner nate clements is getting paid like a top corner and hes shitty. So lets see how this plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 I'm glad they are trying, but contract extensions are going to be tricky right now. Who knows if there will be a cap next year, or what it will be. If they even have a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 [b][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/15/bengals-open-contract-talks-with-johnathan-joseph/"][size="5"]Bengals open contract talks with Johnathan Joseph[/size][/url][/b] Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 15, 2010 3:10 PM ET Despite rumors to the contrary, NFL teams are indeed allowed to proactively approach their young players for contract extensions this offseason. Cincinnati [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5289124&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines"]made two proposals[/url] to fourth-year cornerback [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3693"]Johnathan Joseph[/url] in the last week. Joseph isn't even publicly complaining about them! "It shows positive signs," Joseph told ESPN's James Walker. "It's one of those things that hopefully we can get it done. But if not, I'm here for the rest of this season and I'm focused on this season. I'm not that worried about it, but it's one of those things you'd like to get behind you." In Joseph and [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4204"]Leon Hall[/url], the Bengals arguably have the best young cornerback duo in the league. They are certainly the most affordable, due to make $2.5 million combined this year. [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/15/bengals-open-contract-talks-with-johnathan-joseph/?related=1"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/15/bengals-open-contract-talks-with-johnathan-joseph/?related=1[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmo Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Does Joseph take the big guaranteed bonus and salary now or risk it all to injury. Personally, I'd take the money now and not risk losing it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 [quote name='Missya15' date='15 June 2010 - 03:01 PM' timestamp='1276628489' post='893133'] When was the last time mike brown pitched over 40m for a corner?? I know damn well jjoe is gonna want to get paid hella. One thing that bothers me is that 49ers corner nate clements is getting paid like a top corner and hes shitty. So lets see how this plays out. [/quote] When was the last time we had a corner worth paying 40 million? over the last 6 years, I can think of a bunch of guys that Katie has paid, and they all were within the market. Carson, Chad, Whit, Peko, Crocker, Geathers, Big Willy, Levi, and Rudi all got deals that were market reflective. Even TJ's second deal was market reflective, and so was the offer they made him to come back, hell, he even said it. They like J Joe and they'll pay him market. His question will be will someone pay him over market like Minnesota did Madiue or San Fran did Bustin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scales Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Well the Bengals have been getting these guys on the cheap for the last couple of years. If he wants what awesome moi got from Da RAIDERS then I say BUH BYE. If he want nate clements numbers then I say SOLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Awesome to hear they are trying... they should have done it last year before his value skyrocketed ala Peko & Whit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 [quote name='oldschooler' date='15 June 2010 - 05:42 PM' timestamp='1276638152' post='893152'] [b][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/15/bengals-open-contract-talks-with-johnathan-joseph/"][size="5"]Bengals open contract talks with Johnathan Joseph[/size][/url][/b] Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on June 15, 2010 3:10 PM ET Despite rumors to the contrary, NFL teams are indeed allowed to proactively approach their young players for contract extensions this offseason. Cincinnati [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5289124&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines"]made two proposals[/url] to fourth-year cornerback [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=3693"]Johnathan Joseph[/url] in the last week. [color="#FF0000"][b]Joseph isn't even publicly complaining about them![/b][/color] "It shows positive signs," Joseph told ESPN's James Walker. "It's one of those things that hopefully we can get it done. But if not, I'm here for the rest of this season and I'm focused on this season. I'm not that worried about it, but it's one of those things you'd like to get behind you." In Joseph and [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=4204"]Leon Hall[/url], the Bengals arguably have the best young cornerback duo in the league. They are certainly the most affordable, due to make $2.5 million combined this year. [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/15/bengals-open-contract-talks-with-johnathan-joseph/?related=1"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/15/bengals-open-contract-talks-with-johnathan-joseph/?related=1[/url] [/quote] Why do authors still feel the need to take pot shots at the Bengals that show they have done absolutely no research? It's lazy journalism. I was a better journalist in high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoKaine7777 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 [quote name='Patmo' date='15 June 2010 - 05:51 PM' timestamp='1276638715' post='893156'] Does Joseph take the big guaranteed bonus and salary now or risk it all to injury. Personally, I'd take the money now and not risk losing it . [/quote] [b]You have to take it now.[/b] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 [quote name='KoKaine7777' date='15 June 2010 - 07:00 PM' timestamp='1276642817' post='893191'] [b]You have to take it now.[/b] [/quote] Yep. Take the guaranteed and play your ass off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Why not Leon too? If you are looking at jamming a boatload of cash in the uncapped year...you can do it for him as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 [quote name='Jason' date='15 June 2010 - 06:41 PM' timestamp='1276641710' post='893174'] Why do authors still feel the need to take pot shots at the Bengals that show they have done absolutely no research? It's lazy journalism. I was a better journalist in high school. [/quote] that didn't have anything to do with the Bengals. It was in reference to Logan Mankins of the Patriots complaining that the team only offered him $7 million/year, and about all the other contract disputes players are complaining about lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Talks right now are in the preliminary stages, but the team has been known to lock up some of their young players to deals between now and the end of training camp in past seasons. Sportstars, the firm that represents Joseph, could be a firm to watch when it comes to future Bengals negotiations. Besides Joseph, they represent center Kyle Cook and linebacker Brandon Johnson. Cook and Johnson are both on one-year tender deals. [url="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2010/06/15/woodson-coaching-and-joseph-contract-update/"]http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2010/06/15/woodson-coaching-and-joseph-contract-update/[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 From an article James Walker wrote on the subject a couple weeks ago . . . Here are some of the recent high-end contracts cornerbacks have signed: Recent cornerbacks contracts Cornerback Team Contract Average per season Nnamdi Asomugha Oakland Raiders Three years / $45.3 million $15.1 million Nate Clements San Francisco 49ers Eight years / $80 million $10 million Asante Samuel Philadelphia Eagles Six years / $57 million $9.5 million DeAngelo Hall Washington Redskins Six years / $55 million $9.17 million Chris Gamble Carolina Panthers Six years / $53 million $8.83 million Terence Newman Dallas Cowboys Six years / $50.2 million $8.37 million [url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/13532/whats-johnathan-josephs-value"]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/13532/whats-johnathan-josephs-value[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah15 Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 [quote name='oldschooler' date='15 June 2010 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1276647797' post='893225'] From an article James Walker wrote on the subject a couple weeks ago . . . Here are some of the recent high-end contracts cornerbacks have signed: Recent cornerbacks contracts Cornerback Team Contract Average per season Nnamdi Asomugha Oakland Raiders Three years / $45.3 million $15.1 million Nate Clements San Francisco 49ers Eight years / $80 million $10 million Asante Samuel Philadelphia Eagles Six years / $57 million $9.5 million DeAngelo Hall Washington Redskins Six years / $55 million $9.17 million Chris Gamble Carolina Panthers Six years / $53 million $8.83 million Terence Newman Dallas Cowboys Six years / $50.2 million $8.37 million [url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/13532/whats-johnathan-josephs-value"]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/13532/whats-johnathan-josephs-value[/url] [/quote] Damn i should leave wr and stick to corner o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 [quote name='Bengals1181' date='15 June 2010 - 07:34 PM' timestamp='1276644882' post='893210'] that didn't have anything to do with the Bengals. It was in reference to Logan Mankins of the Patriots complaining that the team only offered him $7 million/year, and about all the other contract disputes players are complaining about lately. [/quote] Yeah, I read about Mankins' comments yesterday and I doubt he plays another down as a Patriot. He basically called Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick liars who reneged on their word to give him a new deal after 2009. Pretty crazy to think $7 million a season for any offensive guard would generate such a reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 When cornerback [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/johnathan-joseph/1cab22b0-ee96-4888-859d-0b246e57308b/"]Johnathan Joseph[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] said last month that the club had approached him about extending his rookie contract, he said he wanted to keep it in the background because he thinks keeping it out of the headlines will help get a deal done. On Tuesday he said he remains confident that a deal is going to get done, although it will be in competiton with first-round pick [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/jermaine-gresham/66ed6d24-c4c8-45c3-83d8-438594e91723/"]Jermaine Gresham[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url]. But the Bengals have a track record of extensions getting done before and during training camp, most recently [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/andrew-whitworth/3a81696e-e6b3-4abd-8dd0-85e8748fa086/"]Andrew Whitworth[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url] and [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/domata-peko/5a38a4b5-78a2-4c57-87c9-c03c2ce23719/"]Domata Peko[img]http://www.bengals.com/assets/nflimg/icon-article-link.gif[/img][/url]. Joseph's low-key approach is in stark contrast to to the beehive of activity involving strong words and holdouts involvling many players heading into free agency. Joseph remembered how Ochocinco came to all the voluntary workouts in 2006 and 2007, but stopped coming the next season because of displeasure with his contract. "Everybody is different. Not everybody has the same situation," Joseph said. "I'm just trying to have the best year I can have." He said there isn't resentment in the locker room about The Ocho's voluntary absences. "Everybody's grown men. It's mandatory and he's here. What more can you ask?" [url="http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Notes-Simmons-kick-starts-the-competition-Joseph-low-keys-it/e869d344-f49e-49a4-8e61-24bfe40408bf"]http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Notes-Simmons-kick-starts-the-competition-Joseph-low-keys-it/e869d344-f49e-49a4-8e61-24bfe40408bf[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleBengal Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 Awesome to hear that they are working on 22's new deal!!!! Lock him up as soon as possible!!! The drawback to this is, how are they gonna handle Cedric now if they want to extend him as well?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'd bring jj and leon into a room together, and offer them both the exact same contract, and tell them they want to make them the best corner duo in the history of the nfl, offer them 8-9 year 100 million dollar deals. I know 8 years 100 million may sound crazy, but it's not really for a corner, and they'll be cheaper then hell in 3-4 years. Jut give them less garaunteed more in the 20-25 million range. Idk i think it would generate a ton of good pubicity, plus leon and jj would have shared bragging rights for being the 1st 100million dollar corners. Not to mention getting their deals done before Revis i think are great ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bengal Migration| Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 [quote name='Le Tigre' date='16 June 2010 - 07:19 AM' timestamp='1276643978' post='893200'] Why not Leon too? If you are looking at jamming a boatload of cash in the uncapped year...you can do it for him as well. [/quote] I appreciate the sentiment only too well, but Leon has to be at least 3rd on the list of guys to re-sign. JJ and Ced are higher priorities because they are entering the last year of their deals. Leon has 2010 and 2011 still left on his rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 [quote name='Missya15' date='15 June 2010 - 01:01 PM' timestamp='1276628489' post='893133'] When was the last time mike brown pitched over 40m for a corner?? I know damn well jjoe is gonna want to get paid hella. One thing that bothers me is that 49ers corner nate clements is getting paid like a top corner and hes shitty. So lets see how this plays out. [/quote] when was the last time he had a corner worth 40 mil? never... mike has always paid his own and treated them well.. at elast ones who arent d-bags.. see: carson, peko, geathers, levi, anderson, bobbie, hell even rudi got 25 mil, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 [quote name='GoBengals' date='16 June 2010 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1276668137' post='893281'] when was the last time he had a corner worth 40 mil? never... mike has always paid his own and treated them well.. at elast ones who arent d-bags.. see: carson, peko, geathers, levi, anderson, bobbie, hell even rudi got 25 mil, [/quote] I don't think Mike "always" pays his own and he definitely doesn't discriminate against d-bags. Willie, Levi, and Rudi were all d-bags in many ways. And he didn't give long-term deals to a number of players, including Justin, Steinbach, Stacy, TJ, and Shayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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