alleycat Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Well, it would cost them very little. Yeah, but it would be a whole lotta broohaha for nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Damn. Thats a lot more than I thought he would get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 NFL files suit for Hardy evidence Posted by Mike Florio on March 18, 2015, 5:44 PM EDT The NFL previously asked nicely to get access to the court file in the now-dismissed Greg Hardy criminal case. The NFL has now asked not quite as nicely. According to WBTV.com, the NFL has sued the North Carolina Attorney General and the Mecklenburg County District Attorney in an effort to get the file. The lawsuit contends that the NFL is legally entitled to see the exhibits introduced into evidence in the bench trial last July that resulted in a finding that Hardy had committed domestic violence against his former girlfriend. After the criminal case was dismissed in February, the NFL filed a request with the court to obtain the exhibits. The lawsuit claims the materials were returned to the district attorney, who allegedly has refused to surrender the materials to the NFL. Whatever the outcome, the move highlights that the NFL still has more work to do before determining whether Hardy will be suspended for violating the personal conduct policy. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/18/nfl-files-suit-for-hardy-evidence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Damn. Thats a lot more than I thought he would get. Yeah, I was thinking something like $8M with a couple million of incentives. He could play terrible and still get the full $11M. He's also in line to get a monster deal this time next year if he stays out of trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 It’s a one-year contract, which carries a salary of $750,000. He can earn up to a total of $13.1 million (which was his base salary as Carolina’s franchise player in 2014) through a series of per-game roster bonuses, incentives, and a large workout bonus. Specifically, Hardy can earn a workout bonus of $1.3116 million, a whopping $9.25 million in per-game roster bonuses, and $1.8044 million in incentives based on sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 We would have NEVER paid that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Cut the crap with the personal attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/18/nfl-files-suit-for-hardy-evidence/ NFL doesn't have a case to get the files. The prosecutor dismissed charges since Holder didn't appear to testify. Since no jury was seated in the case double jeopardy doesn't apply and the charges could be refiled if she changes her mind. That means the evidence is part of an open investigation (at least until the statute of limitations kicks in) and no state makes those subject to freedom of information requests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yeah, I was thinking something like $8M with a couple million of incentives. He could play terrible and still get the full $11M. He's also in line to get a monster deal this time next year if he stays out of trouble. Yeah, he got more than I would have expected. The structure of the deal is reasonable with 0 guaranteed money. Including the workout bonus means he can immediately file a grievance for reinstatement instead of having to wait until week 1. I didn't think a team would sign him on a 1 year basis since it means they get the flak for signing him, might lose him for part of the season, and then could lose him to another team next year. I figured he'd get a decent amount but in a multi-year deal with pay as you go features such as option bonuses for each following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 NFL doesn't have a case to get the files. The prosecutor dismissed charges since Holder didn't appear to testify. Since no jury was seated in the case double jeopardy doesn't apply and the charges could be refiled if she changes her mind. That means the evidence is part of an open investigation (at least until the statute of limitations kicks in) and no state makes those subject to freedom of information requests. Not sure the league would really want to go this far...but they could sue HARDY for violation of league rules (by virtue of contract) and then subpoena records as part of discovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 We should have done that, but given the Fairley details, we won't do one year rentals no how no way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yeah, he got more than I would have expected. The structure of the deal is reasonable with 0 guaranteed money. Including the workout bonus means he can immediately file a grievance for reinstatement instead of having to wait until week 1. I didn't think a team would sign him on a 1 year basis since it means they get the flak for signing him, might lose him for part of the season, and then could lose him to another team next year. I figured he'd get a decent amount but in a multi-year deal with pay as you go features such as option bonuses for each following year. The structure does make sense for Dallas as they won't get stuck with a huge bill if he can't play at all this season (would cost them about $2M probably if he misses the whole year). But like you said, it's still a lot of money if he plays all or even part of the year. $2M or so as signing bonus and if he shows up to mini-camp. Then over half a million for every single game that he is eligible to play in. Even if he's suspended for 2 or 3 games, he's still going to make over $9M for the season and up to $11M with the sack bonuses. If he has a good season, he could be in line for $15M a year or more with a bunch of guaranteed money this offseason. Dallas can't even franchise him as that was part of his contract also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sparky151 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 Not sure the league would really want to go this far...but they could sue HARDY for violation of league rules (by virtue of contract) and then subpoena records as part of discovery? The league can't sue players for disciplinary reasons. That's why the CBA has provisions for league and team discipline. So the Panthers can't sue Hardy to recover the money they paid him while he wasn't playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 19, 2015 Report Share Posted March 19, 2015 The structure does make sense for Dallas as they won't get stuck with a huge bill if he can't play at all this season (would cost them about $2M probably if he misses the whole year). But like you said, it's still a lot of money if he plays all or even part of the year. $2M or so as signing bonus and if he shows up to mini-camp. Then over half a million for every single game that he is eligible to play in. Even if he's suspended for 2 or 3 games, he's still going to make over $9M for the season and up to $11M with the sack bonuses. If he has a good season, he could be in line for $15M a year or more with a bunch of guaranteed money this offseason. Dallas can't even franchise him as that was part of his contract also. Dallas won't pay a dime if Hardy is out all year. At the moment he's not allowed to join the team for offseason workouts. He can file a grievance over that (and imo would easily win) but the league is trying to pressure him into some sort of agreement to accept a suspension. The league wants their position upheld that paid suspension isn't punishment and therefore the commissioner can impose paid suspensions pending investigation. The union (reasonably in my view) regards paid suspension as the equivalent of benching a player, and it prevents the earning of incentives and of course weakens the player's job security. They also don't like suspend first, investigate later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm glad we didn't try to sign him. Jerry Jones is getting hammered. AND he should be. I wonder what his daughter thinks of her father now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I f you don't think ol' JJ worked out a backroom deal with Goodell beforehand you haven't been paying attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm a little surprised the Dez Bryant video tape disappeared into thin air. I figured it would have been referenced by now after they signed Greg. If that comes into public eye after signing Greg, Jerry will get flayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnickyCat Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I'm glad we didn't try to sign him. Jerry Jones is getting hammered. AND he should be. I wonder what his daughter thinks of her father now. Probably not much different than she thought of him after this......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|BlackJesus| Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Jerry Jones paid hush money after groping: suit By Joe Tacopino September 25, 2014 | 4:04am The former stripper suing Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones for allegedly groping her in a hotel bathroom has updated her lawsuit to claim the NFL honcho was paying her hush money for years. Jana Weckerly — who snapped the racy photos of two young strippers cavorting with the 71-year-old billionaire — claims that Jones and the Cowboys put money in her bank account to keep silent for four years after the 2009 alleged attack. The former exotic dancer claims the assault took place in the bathroom of a Texas hotel when the randy Cowboy owner forcibly groped her, penetrated her with his fingers, kissed her, and made her watch as he received oral sex from another woman. The Oklahoma woman is seeking more than $1 million in damages from Jones. The updated lawsuit, filed Monday, claims Jones was trying to pay off his victim until the five-year statute of limitations expired. A hearing is set for Friday to determine whether the lawsuit, which does not say exactly when the alleged assault took place, was filed too late due to the statute. The lawsuit also says Weckerly’s bank records can prove the payments were made, but it does not specify how much was paid. While receiving the funds, Weckerly was told to keep her mouth shut “or else,” the suit says. The Cowboys referred to an earlier statement from Jones attorney Levi McCathern calling the claims “completely false.” “This is a money grab,” McCathern said after the lawsuit was filed earlier this month. “This is nothing more than an attempt to embarrass and extort Jerry Jones.” Weckerly also accused Jones, the Cowboys and a longtime lawyer for Jones of taking her cellphone’s memory card, which contained photos that were then leaked and posted on the Internet in August. The three naughty photos of Jones included one showing him squeezing a busty blonde’s breast. Another shows a barely dressed brunette leaning her head on his crotch. Dallas police could not confirm whether an assault was reported at the time because of the department’s confidentiality policies. Jones claimed he was “misrepresented” in the photos. http://nypost.com/2014/09/25/jerry-jones-paid-woman-hush-money-after-alleged-groping-suit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hardy and Jerry both pay off their women ... I'm sure they'll be pals. :37: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 The Zombie Thread ... It just won't fucking die... Must be the off season. Carry on ... :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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