|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm not getting my hopes up, I started to with Fairley and boom. My expectations at this point are wait till the draft. Doesn't bother me much not signing Fairley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 That haircut is something special He looks like Charlize Theron's brother from Snow White and the Huntsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Vic Tafur @VicTafur · 4h4 hours ago Agents use rich #Raiders “interest” to drive up free agents’ prices all the time and the team shrugs. Greg Hardy obviously hit a nerve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 The Raiders blow more than Whitney Houston. :37: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I would have signed this guy before anyone ... We’ve seen it too many times to count. The Patriots looking at all the guys they could bring in to make their team better then honing in on the one with the most upside and a heavy backstory. They hold their nose a little bit and buy low. They promise zero-tolerance and get a vow of good behavior in return. They put that player on the field and their football team gets better. Corey Dillon. Randy Moss. Aqib Talib. LeGarrette Blount. All of them were deemed to be – at best – more trouble than they were worth. All of them came to the Patriots, played well and whatever waves they ultimately caused (referring to Moss and Dillon here) were ripples in comparison to what was forecast. The return on investment was high. And there was one troubled player who turned out to be far more trouble than he was worth. Aaron Hernandez. Right now, there’s a tremendous football player on the market. His name is Greg Hardy. His market couldn’t be lower. Four days into free agency, the buzz around Hardy is building. The team that signs him can forget about holding its nose. It will need a hazmat suit. The former Carolina Panther was convicted by a judge last June of assaulting a female and communicating threats. His 60-day sentence was suspended and he was given 18 months probation. He appealed and a jury trial was scheduled for November. That was delayed until February 9. When the trial date came, Hardy’s alleged victim, Nicole Holder was not available. Speculation was that Hardy had reached a private settlement with her. The county district attorney prosecuting the case released a statement saying, “For the past several months, the alleged victim, Nicole Holder, has made herself completely unavailable to the Mecklenburg County District Attorney’s Office for the purpose of preparing for trial.” Holder, it was reported, was found to be snowmobiling in Vail when the trial was set to start. The case began falling apart long before, The Charlotte Observer reported, because Holder’s statement in May, when the alleged assault occurred, was not consistent with a statement she gave authorities in July. Still, Hardy’s conviction being overturned and his accuser chose blowing off authorities doesn’t wipe away the fact a judge found Hardy guilty initially. And it doesn’t erase the initial accusation of brutality on the part of Hardy. Hardy’s alleged assault predated that of former Raven Ray Rice. Hardy was not suspended and played in the Panthers first game opening weekend. The day after that game, the video of Rice’s assault became public. Hardy was deactivated by the Panthers for their next game and put on the NFL’s Commissioner Exempt List days after that. Hardy, a defensive end who was to play under the franchise tag and earn $13.1M last season, never played another game for the Panthers but still collected his full salary. With the conviction overturned, Hardy is still awaiting word on what – if any – additional NFL discipline he’ll receive. He met with the league last Wednesday. Even with his immediate football future in limbo, teams are starting to express interest in Hardy.Friday, it was reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter that Hardy has entered into negotiations with a team that did not want to be identified. According to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, "It's a very positive situation. While we're waiting to hear from the league, we're working through it, and it has been very encouraging." Six teams have shown interest, according to Schefter. As a football player, Hardy is outstanding. He rolled up 26 sacks between 2012 and 2013. He’s 6-4, 275 and turns 27 in July. He would be a difference maker for any team. With the Patriots’ available cap space and their need to reshape their defense in the wake of departures by Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner, it wouldn’t be a surprise if the Patriots were one of the teams expressing interest in him as a player. But if they did have interest, could they ultimately look past everything else? The allegations against Hardy weren’t in the same universe as the missteps of Dillon, Moss or Blount. The allegation by Holder that Hardy threw her on a bed covered with guns and his allegedly telling her, “They’re all loaded,” is chilling. Ultimately, an NFL team will swallow hard, look past the allegations against Hardy and sign him. Would the Patriots consider being that team? Should they be that team? http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/will-greg-hardy-be-board-patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I would have signed this guy before anyone ... We’ve seen it too many times to count. The Patriots looking at all the guys they could bring in to make their team better then honing in on the one with the most upside and a heavy backstory. They hold their nose a little bit and buy low. They promise zero-tolerance and get a vow of good behavior in return. They put that player on the field and their football team gets better. Corey Dillon. Randy Moss. Aqib Talib. LeGarrette Blount. All of them were deemed to be – at best – more trouble than they were worth. All of them came to the Patriots, played well and whatever waves they ultimately caused (referring to Moss and Dillon here) were ripples in comparison to what was forecast. The return on investment was high. And there was one troubled player who turned out to be far more trouble than he was worth. Aaron Hernandez. Right now, there’s a tremendous football player on the market. His name is Greg Hardy. His market couldn’t be lower. Four days into free agency, the buzz around Hardy is building. The team that signs him can forget about holding its nose. It will need a hazmat suit. The former Carolina Panther was convicted by a judge last June of assaulting a female and communicating threats. His 60-day sentence was suspended and he was given 18 months probation. He appealed and a jury trial was scheduled for November. That was delayed until February 9. When the trial date came, Hardy’s alleged victim, Nicole Holder was not available. Speculation was that Hardy had reached a private settlement with her. The county district attorney prosecuting the case released a statement saying, “For the past several months, the alleged victim, Nicole Holder, has made herself completely unavailable to the Mecklenburg County District Attorney’s Office for the purpose of preparing for trial.” Holder, it was reported, was found to be snowmobiling in Vail when the trial was set to start. The case began falling apart long before, The Charlotte Observer reported, because Holder’s statement in May, when the alleged assault occurred, was not consistent with a statement she gave authorities in July. Still, Hardy’s conviction being overturned and his accuser chose blowing off authorities doesn’t wipe away the fact a judge found Hardy guilty initially. And it doesn’t erase the initial accusation of brutality on the part of Hardy. Hardy’s alleged assault predated that of former Raven Ray Rice. Hardy was not suspended and played in the Panthers first game opening weekend. The day after that game, the video of Rice’s assault became public. Hardy was deactivated by the Panthers for their next game and put on the NFL’s Commissioner Exempt List days after that. Hardy, a defensive end who was to play under the franchise tag and earn $13.1M last season, never played another game for the Panthers but still collected his full salary. With the conviction overturned, Hardy is still awaiting word on what – if any – additional NFL discipline he’ll receive. He met with the league last Wednesday. Even with his immediate football future in limbo, teams are starting to express interest in Hardy.Friday, it was reported by ESPN’s Adam Schefter that Hardy has entered into negotiations with a team that did not want to be identified. According to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, "It's a very positive situation. While we're waiting to hear from the league, we're working through it, and it has been very encouraging." Six teams have shown interest, according to Schefter. As a football player, Hardy is outstanding. He rolled up 26 sacks between 2012 and 2013. He’s 6-4, 275 and turns 27 in July. He would be a difference maker for any team. With the Patriots’ available cap space and their need to reshape their defense in the wake of departures by Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner, it wouldn’t be a surprise if the Patriots were one of the teams expressing interest in him as a player. But if they did have interest, could they ultimately look past everything else? The allegations against Hardy weren’t in the same universe as the missteps of Dillon, Moss or Blount. The allegation by Holder that Hardy threw her on a bed covered with guns and his allegedly telling her, “They’re all loaded,” is chilling. Ultimately, an NFL team will swallow hard, look past the allegations against Hardy and sign him. Would the Patriots consider being that team? Should they be that team? http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/will-greg-hardy-be-board-patriots If the Pats sign him he will get 2 games, if the Bengals sign him he will get 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I think she left out the part where Greggy said "but the safety on all of them is on. Lets have a kinky rendezvous." Nothing to see here folks, just some 50 shades of grey stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Continues to be my top FA acquisition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Continues to be my top FA acquisition. If you're only going to sign 1 guy, this is the guy. Hands down. Without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 If you're only going to sign 1 guy, this is the guy. Hands down. Without a doubt. Not going to happen, the NFL is screwing him over by not announcing his suspension. No is going to sign this guy without knowing how long he will be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Not going to happen, the NFL is screwing him over by not announcing his suspension. No is going to sign this guy without knowing how long he will be suspended. That's an easy fix ... Andrew Brandt @adbrandt · Mar 13 Re Greg Hardy/potential suspension, teams would want structure of high salaries, no signing bonus. Games missed deleted from pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 If you're only going to sign 1 guy, this is the guy. Hands down. Without a doubt. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COB Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Special gun of beds clause Mike wants on the contract is sticking point. Fairley won't relent, right to throw people onto bed of guns is non-negotiable to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Yup. I wanted him in the draft (pegged him as a late 1st rounder; he went in the 5th IIRC, but played like a first): Posted by alleycat on 13 November 2009 - 02:44 PM in THE BENGALS FORUM Mays might fall. There's a lot of debate going on about him right now on draft sites. Two others to keep tabs on who may slide to the bottom of the first (where we'll be picking!) because of injuries that finished them for the year: Greg Hardy DE Ole Miss, and (my pick) Jermaine Gresham, TE OU. We can get a SSLB and Guard in rounds 3 and 4... Man, if only they went one way instead of the other! And if only JG could have capitlized on his talent... I wanted Hardy in the last FA (also favoring him in a direct comparison to MJ: Posted by alleycat on 18 January 2014 - 12:12 AM in THE BENGALS FORUM Hardy and Orakpo will get more $$ than MJ and too much for us, but if we pay a DE on this team top 10 DE money I'd rather have one who performs like a top 10 DE. And I've obviously been clamoring for him this season. In short, my love and need makes me look past all the risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Very seriously doubt it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Very seriously doubt it happens I don't disagree, but until draft weekend - and maybe even after that - it's all I'll have to keep myself from being pessimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I don't disagree, but until draft weekend - and maybe even after that - it's all I'll have to keep myself from being pessimistic. Lol whatever gets you through then my man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Hey, when the alternative is hoping for Margus "man without a coach" Hunt, I'll hold onto whatever I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocalBengalEd Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 All the stars have to be aligned for the Bengals to sign someone. They either have to be a former player of a current Bengals coach, played football in the state of Ohio on a high school or college team. Hardy would be such a perfect fit and is definitely a difference maker unlike MJ and his 4 sacks a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HairOnFire Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Patriots have never hesitated to stoop for greatness. It's as much a part of the Patriot Way as replacing players sooner rather than later or building around a mostly caucasian offensive line. Maybe this team needs to more of the same? Frankly, I hate the idea but I have to acknowledge the why not appeal. It's not like this teams reputation would be hurt by the signing, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Speaking of which, given the Vikings interest in Hunt, I wonder if they might be interested in him at all. He IS Zimmer's project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We could still salvage this offseason by signing Hardy and Wilfork and cutting Peko. It wouldn't hurt to ask Leon for a paycut. Then we'd only have the Maualuga fiasco to overcome and the draft would be pretty open. Sign a starter or two to extensions before training camp and we'd be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 We could still salvage this offseason by signing Hardy and Wilfork and cutting Peko. That would be HUGE. it would give stealers fans nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 MJ93 > Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 Now that is funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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