|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Does any team keep their intentions closer to the vest than Cincy? I don't believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Does any team keep their intentions closer to the vest than Cincy? I don't believe so. New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 New England. Guess I could buy that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Sharks his agent. He will be a Bengal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Rosenhaus could be bullshitting too to try to drum up a decent offer. Never really know what's really going on with these type of deals. Sounds like NE had mostly pulled out of the Revis bidding but his agent used their supposed interest to drive up the price for the Jets. No reason for the Pats to call the agent's bluff because I'm sure they were happy to see the Jets overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 True. I think Cincy may have one of the best relationships with Drew though , is why I think it's a good chance it may be us.Coley Harvey must've said he thinks we will sign him for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.A.B. Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Doesn't sound like something we'd do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Doesn't sound like something we'd do That's why it's not status quo. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 No chance it'd be NE. They just can't handle the risk after Hernandez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 No chance it'd be NE. They just can't handle the risk after Hernandez. He was slapping girls around, not executing dudes who disrespected him in a bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah, but the risk with Hardy, or any of these guys who have violence-related PR issues, is that, like many people who are violent, the earlier stuff is just a warning sign for something bigger. Apparently it was there with Hernandez. And now the Pats are dealing with the PR nightmare that they brought a serial-killing gang banger to sleepy New England. The more practical reality is also that, under the new policy, the NFL isn't looking the other way anymore and these guys truly are in jeopardy for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Being reported that an "unnamed team" is in talks with him on a multi year deal per Rosenhaus Raiders!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah, but the risk with Hardy, or any of these guys who have violence-related PR issues, is that, like many people who are violent, the earlier stuff is just a warning sign for something bigger. Apparently it was there with Hernandez. And now the Pats are dealing with the PR nightmare that they brought a serial-killing gang banger to sleepy New England. The more practical reality is also that, under the new policy, the NFL isn't looking the other way anymore and these guys truly are in jeopardy for the future. So sign him to a contract worth a ton, but that has caveats in it to protect the team if he fucks up, or pay him if he doesnt fuck up. I have zero faith in the Bengals to do anything positive towards 2015 right now though. Literally bungling their way through the cap and FA so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 We have done nothing to get us in the playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 So sign him to a contract worth a ton, but that has caveats in it to protect the team if he fucks up, or pay him if he doesnt fuck up. I have zero faith in the Bengals to do anything positive towards 2015 right now though. Literally bungling their way through the cap and FA so far. I don't know enough about the CBA or new league policies in regard to how that stuff can work. In other words, I imagine the teams that sign dudes that get nicked like that take the hit with the cap, etc. Otherwise there would be no problem signing most of these high-uspide premium position guys, other than the hole they leave in your roster (whcih for many, would be well worth the risk). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Raiders!! Vic Tafur @VicTafur 12m12 minutes ago Told #Raiders have had no contract discussions with Greg Hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Vic Tafur @VicTafur 12m12 minutes ago Told #Raiders have had no contract discussions with Greg Hardy Hmmm. Bunch of bs floating.The site I saw it said 60/40 odds they'd sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah, I've seen tweets that sent Andre Johnson somewhere for 2 years, 7M, Drew Brees is on the block, etc. It's silly season, which means it's silly to believe anything you hear until it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I don't know enough about the CBA or new league policies in regard to how that stuff can work. In other words, I imagine the teams that sign dudes that get nicked like that take the hit with the cap, etc. Otherwise there would be no problem signing most of these high-uspide premium position guys, other than the hole they leave in your roster (whcih for many, would be well worth the risk). Teams can punish players by suspending them without pay for up to 4 games. The new league DV policy says 6 game suspension for a first offense, then indefinite for a repeat offense. When players are fined the money goes to NFL charities. But during suspensions they don't get paid and in effect help the team recoup some cap space. The team can also clawback a prorated amount of signing bonus too. The team could also include completion bonuses as part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can see the bengals signing him and the big story being, bengals sign another off field problem and then article going through the 10 year history of every arrest starting with Odell thurman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I can see the bengals signing him and the big story being, bengals sign another off field problem and then article going through the 10 year history of every arrest starting with Odell thurman. And I would be OK with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I couldn't imagine being that rich and looking that stupid ... Mark Davis says Raiders aren’t talking to Greg Hardy Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2015, 4:16 PM EDT Getty Images On Thursday, reports surfaced that the Raiders are interested in free-agent defensive end Greg Hardy. On Friday, owner Mark Davis slammed the door. Hard. “False, falser and falsest,” Davis told Tim Kawakami of the San Jose Mercury News. “That is not true.” It appears that Davis specifically was addressing the question of whether the Raiders are negotiating with Hardy. Davis was a bit more vague on the question of whether his employees charged with acquiring football players may be interested in acquiring Hardy. “I’m saying that he’s somebody we are not negotiating with and I don’t believe we would be interested in at this point in time,” Davis said. “I can tell you this: It has not been brought up to me and it would have to come to me.” But it wouldn’t necessarily come to Davis spontaneously, the moment someone working in football operations develops an interest in Hardy. It’s possible that it would percolate as the person(s) interested in Hardy devise a way to persuade the guy who signs the checks to sign off. It’s now clear that Davis won’t. The force of the denial from Davis regarding the lack of negotiations isn’t surprising. Anyone who demonstrates any interest in Hardy risks a negative P.R. consequence, given the lingering aftermath of the Ray Rice in-elevator video. The other concerns with Hardy are: (1) he still may be suspended by the NFL; and (2) there’s no guarantee he won’t find trouble again. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/13/mark-davis-says-raiders-arent-talking-to-greg-hardy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 That haircut is something special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Now that the Steelers extended Ben, we can sign Greg and break him. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'd rather have him than Fairley anyway. Hell for that matter, I'd rather have him than MJ. I'm not getting my hopes up, I started to with Fairley and boom. My expectations at this point are wait till the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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