Building the 2020 Bengals

[Gremzz 39]

Ross was actually playing well until he got hurt. I know that happens a lot, and he drops a lot of passes, but I’d like to see what he can do with a QB that can actually place the ball well for him and hit him in stride. 

This

[Gremzz 39]

As much as I'd love to see a more well-rounded team next year, I would have absolutely no problem with the Bengals spending the majority of their high end picks on the offensive line. Even if it means waiting a year for the appropriate LB/Secondary help, we've really gotta protect this kid straight out of the gate.

[Le Tigre 2,302]

6 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Ross will be way better with AJ Green on the Field and Joe Burrow at QB

Eventually, Super Joe will find that final piece to correct climate change. Or, at least, make every airline flight on time. 
 

[Jason 3,822]

6 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Ross will be way better with AJ Green on the Field and Joe Burrow at QB

I agree.

 

When he's not hurt.

[|SF2| 3,922]

57 minutes ago, Jason said:

I agree.

 

When he's not hurt.

Which is about 50% of the time. 

[|High School Harry| 2,782]

48 minutes ago, SF2 said:

Which is about 50% of the time. 

Ross's hours of practice and experience to say nothing of his veteran leadership will

help Joe improve his skills at Super Mario Cart.

[|SF2| 3,922]

1 hour ago, High School Harry said:

Ross's hours of practice and experience to say nothing of his veteran leadership will

help Joe improve his skills at Super Mario Cart.

In 48 possible games Ross has played in 24 of them.   He has caught 3 or more passes only 6 times in 3 years.   He has broken 50 yards in a game 3 times.  All this for only $4.28 mil a year.  He was having a better season this year but that was simply due to AJ Green not being on the field.  When both Boyd and Green are on the field Ross is pretty much just a decoy. 

[|High School Harry| 2,782]

1 minute ago, SF2 said:

In 48 possible games Ross has played in 24 of them.   He has caught 3 or more passes only 6 times in 3 years.   He has broken 50 yards in a game 3 times.  All this for only $4.28 mil a year. 

He also has the 4th highest score on the Jurassic Park first person shooter video game in the lobby of the Cinemark Western Hills 14 under the name A.S.S. and it only cost him $27,000 to earn it.

[stryker57 29]

On 1/14/2020 at 11:37 PM, MichaelWeston said:

Ross will be way better with AJ Green on the Field and Joe Burrow at QB

he still has to catch the ball no matter who throws it  or is on the field. and thats if he is even healthy enough to play 

[I_C_Deadpeople 261]

15 minutes ago, stryker57 said:

he still has to catch the ball no matter who throws it  or is on the field. and thats if he is even healthy enough to play 

And if he runs the right route correctly and if he does not quit on the route

[claptonrocks 15]

14 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

And if he runs the right route correctly and if he does not quit on the route

Alot of ifs....

[T-Dub 7,323]

Anyone with a history of missing games should be expendable.  I'd rather have an average player that shows up for 16 games a year than a great one that plays 4-5 on average.  We're still trying to win that 2015 Wildcard game.

 

They can't talk about "toughness" as a core team value and keep paying these veteran guys not to play.   Talk is cheap; the locker room sees them making big money to sit in a whirlpool bath all week and can't help but think "Why am I over here busting my ass for vet minimum?"  That's just human nature.  Honestly we need someone like Dr. Phil to come in here and take the entire FO behind the woodshed for a long overdue reality check.  It's great if they want to run a family business but it's the NFL, not the only donut shop in Mayberry.  They're in direct competition with owners who run their team like the massive corporate franchise it actually is & the results are predictable.

[I_C_Deadpeople 261]

10 hours ago, T-Dub said:

Anyone with a history of missing games should be expendable.  I'd rather have an average player that shows up for 16 games a year than a great one that plays 4-5 on average.  We're still trying to win that 2015 Wildcard game.

 

They can't talk about "toughness" as a core team value and keep paying these veteran guys not to play.   Talk is cheap; the locker room sees them making big money to sit in a whirlpool bath all week and can't help but think "Why am I over here busting my ass for vet minimum?"  That's just human nature.  Honestly we need someone like Dr. Phil to come in here and take the entire FO behind the woodshed for a long overdue reality check.  It's great if they want to run a family business but it's the NFL, not the only donut shop in Mayberry.  They're in direct competition with owners who run their team like the massive corporate franchise it actually is & the results are predictable.

Not only predictable, but quite evident.

[I_C_Deadpeople 261]

I caught the tale end of an ex-NFL player (not sure who) on one of the sports radio shows talking about the 49ers rebuild. he said Many of us have been in those dressing rooms where either it is always rebuilding or the players know there is no solid plan, and it is impossible to get motivated to play at a peak performance level'.  Made me think of a certain team...

 

Can't change the culture until the players are convinced their is a solid plan and it is being executed. 

[Catfish Bob 168]

 

[snarkster 267]

The.com just put up "Best Photos of 2019: Linebackers."  Had to be taken when the offense was on the field and they were on the bench, right?

[snarkster 267]

On 1/15/2020 at 1:41 AM, Gremzz said:

As much as I'd love to see a more well-rounded team next year, I would have absolutely no problem with the Bengals spending the majority of their high end picks on the offensive line. Even if it means waiting a year for the appropriate LB/Secondary help, we've really gotta protect this kid straight out of the gate.

I'd love to see them address one of their OL/LBs needs (each) with serviceable FAs.  That would mean higher-level signings than Hart/Miller/Jerry or Hawk/Brown though (and we are talking the Bengals FO here)..

[Jason 3,822]

10 minutes ago, snarkster said:

The.com just put up "Best Photos of 2019: Linebackers."  Had to be taken when the offense was on the field and they were on the bench, right?

 
Or there were just 2, and both were Pratt against Cleveland. 

[snarkster 267]

13 minutes ago, Jason said:

 
Or there were just 2, and both were Pratt against Cleveland. 

 

I look at the Bengals LB core and at the very least (after Pratt), they need a decent journeyman FA LB, a 2nd or 3rd Rd. draft pick, a later-Rd. draft pick, a holdover - maybe Vigil if the price is not to high and he's not just given a starting job.  After that?  They need  2 or 3 "finds" (waiver pickups, UDFAs, etc.) for depth.  It would be nice to find a Vinnie Rey-type (solid if not spectacular, able to fill multiple spots, a teams ace).  Coming up with a strong blitzer/pass-rusher somewhere along the line wouldn't hurt either.

[I_C_Deadpeople 261]

They will re-sign Vigil because it is easy and lazy. 

 

It is hard to even call anything we have 'core'. Perhaps rotten to the core?

[|High School Harry| 2,782]

On 2/7/2020 at 9:14 AM, I_C_Deadpeople said:

They will re-sign Vigil because it is easy and lazy. 

 

It is hard to even call anything we have 'core'. Perhaps rotten to the core?

There's a Mike Brown joke in there somewhere...

[claptonrocks 15]

On 2/6/2020 at 9:53 AM, snarkster said:

The.com just put up "Best Photos of 2019: Linebackers."  Had to be taken when the offense was on the field and they were on the bench, right?

Lol

[gupps 79]

On 1/15/2020 at 1:41 AM, Gremzz said:

As much as I'd love to see a more well-rounded team next year, I would have absolutely no problem with the Bengals spending the majority of their high end picks on the offensive line. Even if it means waiting a year for the appropriate LB/Secondary help, we've really gotta protect this kid straight out of the gate.

Me either. If Mixon isn't getting crushed behind the LOS all the time against good defenses Burrows uni stays a lot cleaner. Burrow/OL/OL/LB or Burrow/OL/LB/OL would  suit me just fine.

[|High School Harry| 2,782]

Cut to the chase...

 

Draft Joe

Re-sign A.J. for 2-3 years

Extend Joe Mixon

 

Would be OK with trading down the top pick in the second round if the price was right

but take the best slider available hopefully at linebacker, O line or wide receiver in that order.

 

Maybe bring back Eifert for a year for a big, sure handed target situational receiver.

 

Trade Andy, Glenn and Ross (tired of waiting for him to reach his po-ten-tial).

[I_C_Deadpeople 261]

I agree that the focus should be on offense for this draft- have to protect the QB and protect him. Fix the D with the typical free agency pickups and in future years