UncleEarl Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 50 minutes ago, bfine said: Somebody like Andy Dalton? You mean the guy that wants out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 hours ago, bfine said: Somebody like Andy Dalton? Preferably someone who doesn’t cost $17.5M Defeats the benefit of having a QB on his rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 7 hours ago, SF2 said: Just Kidding. Dude is a broken down never has been. He has won 23 games in 19 years. One playoff appearance in 19 years. 11 different teams in 19 years. Yeah, this is the guy I want mentoring Burrow, Jay Cutler’s backup. Nobody is proposing that McCown should play extensively. He's there to teach Burrow how to be an NFL QB. He's done that before with Darnold and others. If you have some personal objection to McCown, there are others of his ilk available. Guys like Matt Moore, Chad Henne, Colt McCoy, Case Keenum, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 Colt McCoy would be a good get for that role, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted February 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Jason said: Preferably someone who doesn’t cost $17.5M Defeats the benefit of having a QB on his rookie contract. The only real issue is Andy would be a bad citizen. The money is moot. It's for one year and if folks think Mikey is going to look for those savings to sign more talent then they've just recently started following the team. He pays his own and that's it. Without even parting ways with Andy we have over $47 MIL in cap space and that's before getting "creative". We can resign our important folks and move the cap hit to next year and beyond by paying bonuses. If Andy Dalton acts like a professional no one can argue that he's not the best backup QB we could get for JB. Now if a team is silly enough to offer us a high 2nd for Andy, then we'd have to consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 21, 2020 Report Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, bfine said: The only real issue is Andy would be a bad citizen. The money is moot. It's for one year and if folks think Mikey is going to look for those savings to sign more talent then they've just recently started following the team. He pays his own and that's it. Without even parting ways with Andy we have over $47 MIL in cap space and that's before getting "creative". We can resign our important folks and move the cap hit to next year and beyond by paying bonuses. If Andy Dalton acts like a professional no one can argue that he's not the best backup QB we could get for JB. Now if a team is silly enough to offer us a high 2nd for Andy, then we'd have to consider it. There is a minimum. He'd have to spend at least some of it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted February 22, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Jason said: There is a minimum. He'd have to spend at least some of it somewhere. How much under the minimum would parting ways with Andy put us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 16 hours ago, sparky151 said: Nobody is proposing that McCown should play extensively. He's there to teach Burrow how to be an NFL QB. He's done that before with Darnold and others. If you have some personal objection to McCown, there are others of his ilk available. Guys like Matt Moore, Chad Henne, Colt McCoy, Case Keenum, etc. He sucked as an NFL QB. There is no reason to sign him. Darnold was one of the worst QBs in the league last year. Your second group is a much more reasonable list other than McCoy who could blow out his knee getting the mail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 10 hours ago, bfine said: How much under the minimum would parting ways with Andy put us? The team is already $36mil under the 95% minimum so all of Andy’s $17.7 mil would need to be spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, SF2 said: The team is already $36mil under the 95% minimum so all of Andy’s $17.7 mil would need to be spent. Is it not based on a rolling 3 year average spend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, SF2 said: The team is already $36mil under the 95% minimum so all of Andy’s $17.7 mil would need to be spent. If they extend Jackson & extend/tag Green, that $36M is pretty much spent & maybe a little more, but not sure what there cap counts would be though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 22, 2020 Report Share Posted February 22, 2020 6 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Is it not based on a rolling 3 year average spend? I think it’s 5 years but they have to spend at least 89% per year I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Bob Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 PJ Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catfish Bob Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 4:40 PM, spicoli said: Colt McCoy would be a good get for that role, IMO. Until he has to play this giving us zero chances of winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Catfish Bob said: Until he has to play this giving us zero chances of winning. How’s that make him any different than the rest of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, spicoli said: How’s that make him any different than the rest of them? Keenum would be a good backup. Ok record as a starter, decent passer rating. Borderline bottom team starter or decent backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, SF2 said: Keenum would be a good backup. Ok record as a starter, decent passer rating. Borderline bottom team starter or decent backup. I like this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Catfish Bob said: PJ Walker You know, i was contemplating this as well. XFL talent is definitely no comparison but Walker has been nothing but dynamic, plus he'll be pretty fresh off some action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, SF2 said: Keenum would be a good backup. Ok record as a starter, decent passer rating. Borderline bottom team starter or decent backup. Winner winner... Keenum it is.. Now can they sign him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted February 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Case Keenum most likely wants to be a starter too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bfine said: Case Keenum most likely wants to be a starter too. The guy will be on his 6th team in 10 years. I have to think he realizes nobody is bringing him in to be a starter given the other options. He played for $3.5 million last year, I am sure he would have no problem getting similar money to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted February 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, SF2 said: The guy will be on his 6th team in 10 years. I have to think he realizes nobody is bringing him in to be a starter given the other options. He played for $3.5 million last year, I am sure he would have no problem getting similar money to come here. Perhaps, but he probably still wants to be a starter. The only time he had a real team around him he led them to a division title and took them to within one game from the Superbowl. Hell last year with an absolutely garbage team he posted a rating of over 91. I'm thinking if he's going back up he's looking for a place that he can compete. But I'm sure if he came here he wouldn't cause issues if not the starter. What professional QB would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, bfine said: Perhaps, but he probably still wants to be a starter. The only time he had a real team around him he led them to a division title and took them to within one game from the Superbowl. Hell last year with an absolutely garbage team he posted a rating of over 91. I'm thinking if he's going back up he's looking for a place that he can compete. But I'm sure if he came here he wouldn't cause issues if not the starter. What professional QB would? When you tell a guy you are signing him to be the back up and he signs, he won’t be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfine Posted February 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, SF2 said: When you tell a guy you are signing him to be the back up and he signs, he won’t be a problem. What do you think the percentage is of players signed that the team asserts signing "We are signing you to be a backup"? Are you also suggesting whomever we sign we tell them "You're going to be a backup"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted February 26, 2020 Report Share Posted February 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, bfine said: What do you think the percentage is of players signed that the team asserts signing "We are signing you to be a backup"? Are you also suggesting whomever we sign we tell them "You're going to be a backup"? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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