texbengal Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Interesting that DJ has T'Vondre Sweat off of his Top 50 now. Will be interesting to see if/how he performs at the Combine, and how his weight is... if it's available. One good looking prospect at DT that is on the list at 45 - Braden Fiske. Fun to watch. He's an athletic guy who plays hard and he shows up quite a bit in FSU games I've seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 6 hours ago, spicoli said: Wanna see their lateral movements at the comine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Mims has so much natural talent it really wouldn’t surprise me at all if he ends up being the first OT drafted when it’s all said and done. He’s only played in a handful of games and that scares the shit out of me but his overall talent level is easily tops in this draft, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 6 minutes ago, spicoli said: Mims has so much natural talent it really wouldn’t surprise me at all if he ends up being the first OT drafted when it’s all said and done. He’s only played in a handful of games and that scares the shit out of me but his overall talent level is easily tops in this draft, IMO. If you told me we got a bridge type RT in FA and took Mimms at 18 so he could ease into the role, I'd be fine with it. But if we are going to draft a RT and need him to start I think the best bet if you want a guy who can pass and run block equally well, is Lathem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Le Tigre Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 But, what if JPJ gets past JAX…hmmm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 Bowers won't slide that far and Pittsburgh would trade up for Powers-Johnson if they think he's going to Jacksonville. Or... us if Mims goes higher which he probably will. So play the game... if Bowers and Mims are gone... is Powers-Johnson > than the other OTs on the board? The thought of him being a Squeel really gives me the willies. Much rather see him here than there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: But, what if JPJ gets past JAX…hmmm? Sprint to the podium then hope he beats out Volson on the first day of camp? Let him take over at C (or not) when the time comes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 16 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Sprint to the podium then hope he beats out Volson on the first day of camp? Let him take over at C (or not) when the time comes. So much this minus beating out Volson without seeing how Volson has improved in the off season. Volson, Karras, Cappa... can any kick outside and play ORT? Trade up in Round 2 for the best OT remaining? Our annual free agent rent-a-tackle? But, yeah, if Bowers and Mims are gone... this is that guy. If all three are gone... trade down. Whatever, I really don't want to see him going to Pittsburgh but I think a real possibility of them trading up to get him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 4 hours ago, Jamie_B said: If you told me we got a bridge type RT in FA and took Mimms at 18 so he could ease into the role, I'd be fine with it. But if we are going to draft a RT and need him to start I think the best bet if you want a guy who can pass and run block equally well, is Lathem. It’s definitely Fuaga for me if I can have one of the pure RTs. That said, as much as I hate his lack of starts, I definitely can’t dismiss the kind of overall talent that Mims has in spades. 18 is fine by me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 I'd be fine with Mims at 18 if we have a decent coverage option until he's ready to start. That might be day 1 but might not be until halfway or more through the season. So if we're taking our longterm RT in the draft, we need to sign someone like Eluemonor (who will probaby get a multiyear deal this offseason) or Fant or Fleming (who will probably be on 1 year deals). We need to find a long term starter in free agency for either NT or RT to free up the draft. Then we could fill the other in round 2 and take a Bowers or JPJ or a WR in round 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 32 minutes ago, sparky151 said: I'd be fine with Mims at 18 if we have a decent coverage option until he's ready to start. That might be day 1 but might not be until halfway or more through the season. So if we're taking our longterm RT in the draft, we need to sign someone like Eluemonor (who will probaby get a multiyear deal this offseason) or Fant or Fleming (who will probably be on 1 year deals). We need to find a long term starter in free agency for either NT or RT to free up the draft. Then we could fill the other in round 2 and take a Bowers or JPJ or a WR in round 1. I'm not sure there is a NT in FA that is a long term solution. For RT maybe Onwenu but is he better than any 1st round pick we might get? Eluemunor is exactly the kind of bridge player you bring in on the short term until someone like Mims is ready, seeing that Eluemunor is 29 it's not a long term answer. He wants to beat the Chiefs when it matters, which would incentivize him to take a fair deal to play with Joe. It's exactly the kind of thing the Bengals should do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Eluemunor has played himself into a multi-year deal. He entered the NFL as a guard, then was forced to play tackle after Leatherwood flopped. He's been on some 1 year deals but is now near the top of the tackles available in a league with a shortage. So someone will offer him a deal that pays $10 mil or more for several years. So he won't take bridge-tackle money from us. I'm sure he'd be happy to sign as our multi-year starting RT though. We'll see who gets tagged but there are several DTs not currently under contract who would be starters for the Bengals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Kiper put out a new mock this morn.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39600424/2024-nfl-mock-draft-mel-kiper-new-first-round-predictions-32-picks-qb-fits 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 2 hours ago, spicoli said: Kiper put out a new mock this morn.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39600424/2024-nfl-mock-draft-mel-kiper-new-first-round-predictions-32-picks-qb-fits I've been advocating for Fuaga all along. He:ll bring a mauling nastiness the Oline lacks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 NFL Mock Draft 2024, post-Combine edition: J.J. McCarthy, Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr. find new landing spots https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2024-combine-jj-mcarthy-bo-nix-michael-penix/6a21abd4d53a50ef1861afad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, spicoli said: NFL Mock Draft 2024, post-Combine edition: J.J. McCarthy, Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr. find new landing spots https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2024-combine-jj-mcarthy-bo-nix-michael-penix/6a21abd4d53a50ef1861afad Yes, please... but won't happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 ^ Bowers is the player who would make the biggest immediate impact next season. It's scary to think what Burrow could do if he actually had a good TE, since he never has. Part of me just can't imagine the rest of the league allowing that to happen, as they know the Bengals would then be very hard to stop. If the Bengals want Bowers (as it is rumored they do), they likely need to move up for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 9 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: ^ Bowers is the player who would make the biggest immediate impact next season. It's scary to think what Burrow could do if he actually had a good TE, since he never has. Part of me just can't imagine the rest of the league allowing that to happen, as they know the Bengals would then be very hard to stop. If the Bengals want Bowers (as it is rumored they do), they likely need to move up for him. They won't move up. If he falls to them so be it. There's a problem on our lines that has to be addressed whether FA or draft. Getting an OT in FA would solve a lot In the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 5 round mock with an initial trade down: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 There is a LOT of chatter on sites that Drake Maye is going to free-fall. As in a lot of teams have him as a late 1st or second rounder. The QB intrigue at the top of the draft, including the Fields situation, is very interesting. Glad we have NO PART in it LOL. On another note, if we had actually fixed our OL in the last 2 years we would be in a great spot to pick up guys who fall becuse of other teams drafting much needed OL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 If I was predicting the Bengals pick right now on March 4, I would guess ... 1. Brock Bowers 2. Cooper DeJean 3. Byron Murphy My gut feeling is they try to get their OL in Rd 2 or trade back up for one (Paul?), as there will be a run on them early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, BlackJesus said: If I was predicting the Bengals pick right now on March 4, I would guess ... 1. Brock Bowers 2. Cooper DeJean 3. Byron Murphy My gut feeling is they try to get their OL in Rd 2 or trade back up for one (Paul?), as there will be a run on them early. I think that Bowers is gone and that they won't wait to sign a free agent. My guess is they pay Noah Fant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gupps Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 On 2/28/2024 at 9:38 AM, spicoli said: Kiper put out a new mock this morn.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39600424/2024-nfl-mock-draft-mel-kiper-new-first-round-predictions-32-picks-qb-fits Was watching the NFL channel this morning (Mar 4) and they said Fuaga made himself a butt-load of money at the combine and could be the first tackle taken. If that's true he won't be there to take. Maybe Latham or Guyton? Or a DT? Any trench body is ok with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Let's say 5 OT go before the Bengals pick (nightmare scenario) ... The issue then might be do you want the 6th best OT or the best TE, best DT, or 2nd best CB? Traditional thinking is that a run on a position means you need to get yours then, but not if you're at the end of the run (which the Bengals might be). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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