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1 hour ago, BlackJesus said:

I think the Bengals need to be prepared to move up a few slots. They have 10 draft picks and 10 new guys are not even making this roster. 

I don't see them moving up in the first round (perhaps unfortunately depending on the way the cookie crumbles) because

I can't see them giving up their number 18 and their second round choice to move up for someone who arguably may not

be a lot better than who is there or who may slide.

Now... our second and one of out thirds to move up higher for a slider (not a wide receiver) would be nice

or even both our thirds for another second... 

But can't see them trading up in the first.  

Trade down... maybe.  But I would still like to make a pick before Pittsburgh.

If Nix or Penix are there at 18... someone will want them.

 

In Pumpkin:wub: and Duke I Trust.

 

As a P.S.

After reading all the stuff here and about players they are bring in for a look-see... taking to dinner at Outback rather than The Precinct,

I am really interested in Rounds 3-4 and perhaps lower where they go with a player with more meh underwear Olympic measurable

but a real bad ass mammyjammer in pads on the field.

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47 minutes ago, Cricket said:


Based upon the plethora of mock drafts, and the knowledge of the potential players spewed forth in this forum, I would recommend trading back a few spots in Round-1, still getting a coveted player plus some additional draft capital.  THEN using our draft capital to move up in Round-2 and/or get a second Round-2 pick…or Round-3 pick.  Let’s have more picks in “the sweet spot”, wherever that might be.  🦗

 

I like that idea and certainly it's more likely they would move back than forward... especially if it's only a few spots. Could definitely see that happening. 

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Reading Dane Brugler's "The Beast"

I think I found a 2nd round WR I want 

 

. ADONAI MITCHELL | Texas 6022 | 205 lbs. | 3JR Missouri City, Texas (Cane Ridge) 10/8/2002 (age 21.55) #5 BACKGROUND: Adonai (ADD-an-I) “AD” Mitchell, the youngest of four boys, was born and raised in Missouri City (20 miles southwest of Houston). His mother (Darcy Padgett), a former model, and father (Norman Mitchell), a former stand-up comedian and actor, moved to Houston in 2000 and founded the Bee Busy Wellness Center, a nonprofit organization geared towards low-income individuals and families. In pee-wee and youth football, Mitchell was the kid with the ball in his hands and primarily played quarterback. His older brothers played basketball, but after trying it for two years, Mitchell decided that sport wasn’t for him. He spent his freshman year of high school at Westbury Christian School (a private school in Houston), and the coaches kept him at quarterb ack. To raise his recruiting profile, Mitchell transferred to Ridge Point High School (class 6A school in Fort Bend County) prior to his sophomore season and moved to wide receiver. As a junior in 2018, he earned second team All-District honors with 25 receptions for 378 yards and nine offensive touchdowns (five rushing, three receiving, one passing). He helped Ridge Point to a 10-2 record and the 2018 district championship. With Mitchell still struggling to garner recruiting attention, his father moved to the Nashville area for a year so his son could train with Buck Fitzgerald at the National Playmakers Academy. Mitchell transferred to Cane Ridge High School in Antioch, Tenn., for his senior season in 2019. After filling in at quarterback for the first three games, he moved back to wide receiver and led the team with 49 catches for 795 yards and 11 touchdowns. Mitchell helped Cane Ridge to a 9-4 record and state playoff appearance, and he was named the 2019 Region 5 -6A Athlete of the Year. A four-star recruit, Mitchell was the No. 63 wide receiver in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 10 recruit in Tennessee. He was originally in the 2020 recruiting class but decided to reclassify to the 2021 class and spent the ‘20 season training. After moving to Tennessee for his senior season, Mitchell attended several recruiting camps and received his first FBS offers (Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee). He picked up an offer from Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin in January 2020 and committed a few months later. However, Mitchell continued receiving offers (Auburn and Texas) and taking visits. In July 2020, he flipped his commitment to Georgia and former offensive coordinator Todd Monken. Mitchell enrolled early and was the No. 16 recruit in head coach Kirby Smart’s 2021 class (top receiver in the class). His daughter (Icylinn) was born in the summer of 2021, and Mitchell’s parents have been raising her while Mitchell has been i n school. After two national championships in two seasons in Athens, Mitchell entered the portal with the intention of moving closer to his daughter, and he transferred to Texas — a two-hour car ride away. After one season in Austin, Mitchell elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2024 NFL Draft.

 

STRENGTHS: Long, limber and loose athlete … long-striding acceleration to quickly reach his top speed … light-footed and fluid in his releases and at the top of routes to stem his way over the top of corners (see his stutter-and-go touchdown vs. Alabama in 2023) … able to gear down on command to drive corners off the route and give his quarterback a clean target … flashes extra juice when the ball is in the air … able to high point with outstanding body control for in-air adjustments … tracks the ball into his hands (one drop over the last two seasons) … grew up competing with three older brothers, and his toughness stands out on tape … al ways looking for someone to block … led the Big 12 in touchdowns in 2023 … competes with big-play swagger and has a history of clutch touchdowns in his team’s most important games (caught the go-ahead touchdown in Georgia’s 2021 national title victory).

 

WEAKNESSES: Owns a modest build with lean features and stringy muscle tone … below-average play strength, and physical defensive backs will give him trouble early and late in the route … catch radius casts a wide net, but he has smallish hands and doesn’t always play strong to the football (caught just four contested balls in 2023) … his route running loses rhythm at times, and he needs to be more consistently deliberate with each step … averaged just 3.2 YAC in 2023 and is not known for his creativity or ability to break tackles after the catch … wasn’t a high-volume target in college (three or fewer catches in 10 of his 14 games at Texas) … missed most of the 2022 season at Georgia because of a high left ankle sprain (September 2022).

 

SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Texas, Mitchell was an outside wide receiver in head coach Steve Sarkisian’s spread, RPO offense. After helpi ng Georgia win a pair of national championships, he transferred to Texas (to be closer to his daughter) and helped the Longhorns reach the College Football Playoffs. He also became just the fifth player in Texas history with 11 touchdown grabs in a single season. Despite some wasted movements in his routes that need to be tightened up, Mitchell cleanly accelerates/decelerates at will with the fluid movement skills to create separation out of his breaks (his 81.8 percent first down/touchdown rate in 2 023 was the best among the receivers in this draft class). Though not the strongest player through contact, he has the hand-eye coordination and pliable frame to adjust, high point and reach throws most receivers cannot. Overall, Mitchell needs to become a more detail-focused receiver to fully unlock his talent, but he has the body length, loose athleticism and catch-pointskills to be a chain-moving weapon. He projects as a rangy, outside-the-numbers target with the lean, limber body type reminiscent of the late Chris Henry.

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9 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

Reading Dane Brugler's "The Beast"

I think I found a 2nd round WR I want 

 

. ADONAI MITCHELL | Texas 6022 | 205 lbs. | 3JR Missouri City, Texas (Cane Ridge) 10/8/2002 (age 21.55) #5 BACKGROUND: Adonai (ADD-an-I) “AD” Mitchell, the youngest of four boys, was born and raised in Missouri City (20 miles southwest of Houston). His mother (Darcy Padgett), a former model, and father (Norman Mitchell), a former stand-up comedian and actor, moved to Houston in 2000 and founded the Bee Busy Wellness Center, a nonprofit organization geared towards low-income individuals and families. In pee-wee and youth football, Mitchell was the kid with the ball in his hands and primarily played quarterback. His older brothers played basketball, but after trying it for two years, Mitchell decided that sport wasn’t for him. He spent his freshman year of high school at Westbury Christian School (a private school in Houston), and the coaches kept him at quarterb ack. To raise his recruiting profile, Mitchell transferred to Ridge Point High School (class 6A school in Fort Bend County) prior to his sophomore season and moved to wide receiver. As a junior in 2018, he earned second team All-District honors with 25 receptions for 378 yards and nine offensive touchdowns (five rushing, three receiving, one passing). He helped Ridge Point to a 10-2 record and the 2018 district championship. With Mitchell still struggling to garner recruiting attention, his father moved to the Nashville area for a year so his son could train with Buck Fitzgerald at the National Playmakers Academy. Mitchell transferred to Cane Ridge High School in Antioch, Tenn., for his senior season in 2019. After filling in at quarterback for the first three games, he moved back to wide receiver and led the team with 49 catches for 795 yards and 11 touchdowns. Mitchell helped Cane Ridge to a 9-4 record and state playoff appearance, and he was named the 2019 Region 5 -6A Athlete of the Year. A four-star recruit, Mitchell was the No. 63 wide receiver in the 2021 recruiting class and the No. 10 recruit in Tennessee. He was originally in the 2020 recruiting class but decided to reclassify to the 2021 class and spent the ‘20 season training. After moving to Tennessee for his senior season, Mitchell attended several recruiting camps and received his first FBS offers (Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina and Tennessee). He picked up an offer from Ole Miss and Lane Kiffin in January 2020 and committed a few months later. However, Mitchell continued receiving offers (Auburn and Texas) and taking visits. In July 2020, he flipped his commitment to Georgia and former offensive coordinator Todd Monken. Mitchell enrolled early and was the No. 16 recruit in head coach Kirby Smart’s 2021 class (top receiver in the class). His daughter (Icylinn) was born in the summer of 2021, and Mitchell’s parents have been raising her while Mitchell has been i n school. After two national championships in two seasons in Athens, Mitchell entered the portal with the intention of moving closer to his daughter, and he transferred to Texas — a two-hour car ride away. After one season in Austin, Mitchell elected to skip his senior season and enter the 2024 NFL Draft.

 

STRENGTHS: Long, limber and loose athlete … long-striding acceleration to quickly reach his top speed … light-footed and fluid in his releases and at the top of routes to stem his way over the top of corners (see his stutter-and-go touchdown vs. Alabama in 2023) … able to gear down on command to drive corners off the route and give his quarterback a clean target … flashes extra juice when the ball is in the air … able to high point with outstanding body control for in-air adjustments … tracks the ball into his hands (one drop over the last two seasons) … grew up competing with three older brothers, and his toughness stands out on tape … al ways looking for someone to block … led the Big 12 in touchdowns in 2023 … competes with big-play swagger and has a history of clutch touchdowns in his team’s most important games (caught the go-ahead touchdown in Georgia’s 2021 national title victory).

 

WEAKNESSES: Owns a modest build with lean features and stringy muscle tone … below-average play strength, and physical defensive backs will give him trouble early and late in the route … catch radius casts a wide net, but he has smallish hands and doesn’t always play strong to the football (caught just four contested balls in 2023) … his route running loses rhythm at times, and he needs to be more consistently deliberate with each step … averaged just 3.2 YAC in 2023 and is not known for his creativity or ability to break tackles after the catch … wasn’t a high-volume target in college (three or fewer catches in 10 of his 14 games at Texas) … missed most of the 2022 season at Georgia because of a high left ankle sprain (September 2022).

 

SUMMARY: A one-year starter at Texas, Mitchell was an outside wide receiver in head coach Steve Sarkisian’s spread, RPO offense. After helpi ng Georgia win a pair of national championships, he transferred to Texas (to be closer to his daughter) and helped the Longhorns reach the College Football Playoffs. He also became just the fifth player in Texas history with 11 touchdown grabs in a single season. Despite some wasted movements in his routes that need to be tightened up, Mitchell cleanly accelerates/decelerates at will with the fluid movement skills to create separation out of his breaks (his 81.8 percent first down/touchdown rate in 2 023 was the best among the receivers in this draft class). Though not the strongest player through contact, he has the hand-eye coordination and pliable frame to adjust, high point and reach throws most receivers cannot. Overall, Mitchell needs to become a more detail-focused receiver to fully unlock his talent, but he has the body length, loose athleticism and catch-pointskills to be a chain-moving weapon. He projects as a rangy, outside-the-numbers target with the lean, limber body type reminiscent of the late Chris Henry.

Chris Henry was deceiving.

Looked slender but his legs were as strong as you'd see in a Wideout 

So gifted.

I hope his son carries his legacy on.

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30 minutes ago, texbengal said:

I like that idea and certainly it's more likely they would move back than forward... especially if it's only a few spots. Could definitely see that happening. 

If you read these interview quotes from Steven Radicevic, the Bengals director of scouting, it sure sounds like they would be more likely to move back a few slots than move up:

 

GH: How do you view this year's draft, where the Bengals have the 18th pick in the first round?

SR: I think it's a strong draft. Probably one of the better ones just positionally across the board. It's a deep draft, except maybe for a couple of positions. But I think it's probably one of the better drafts that I've been around where if you're in the top 25, you're getting a player you would normally get in the top 10.

GH: You guys have been known to say the first round lasts for about 12 guys. This year, that's doubled?

SR: Exactly. That's how I personally view it. I feel like you're going get a guy you have a legitimate first-round grade on rather than in years past, where if you were between 18-25, you're going to get a guy you've got a second-round grade on.

GH: Does that depth last?

SR: I would say so. At least for sure the first and second rounds. I feel like you're going to feel pretty good about those first two picks. They're guys that have legitimate first- and legitimate second-round grades where you're not reaching for a player there.

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14 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

Really hope they don't move back and end up missing out on a guy

But if the scouting group has 1st round grades on 24 or so players, it would seem like you could move back 3 or 4 slots and still get a player you would value highly. Yes, the Bengals have 10 picks, but 4 of them are in the last 2 rounds. Those slots are usually guys who are mostly just priority free agent types. Here are the positions (and quantity needed) I would like to see addressed in the first 5 or 6 rounds.

 

OL 2

DL 2

WR/ pass receiving TE 2

RB 1

LB 1

CB 1

 

That's a lot of needs there. Chances are they won't be able to adequately fill all of those holes through the draft.

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Bengals don't need to move up to get a good player. I wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh jumped us for a tackle. Or they may want JPJ.

 

AD Mitchell probably won't make it past pick 28 if Buffalo stays put. A lot of speculation though that they made trade up for Brian Thomas. If that happens, Mitchell may go to KC at 32. 

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On 4/15/2024 at 11:06 AM, claptonrocks said:

Chris Henry was deceiving.

Looked slender but his legs were as strong as you'd see in a Wideout 

So gifted.

I hope his son carries his legacy on.

I remember Carson Palmer saying that Chris ran faster, the further he ran. He was able to not only maintain, but increase his speed. He was really talented. 

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There are always certain players who always shoot up the boards in the last week before the draft, as evaluators realize they were either previously slotted too low, or valued way more by teams than draft evaluators had anticipated. 

 

Some of those players that I predict will fit that cycle this time around include: 

 

- Graham Barton (C/G)

- Darius Robinson (DE/DT)

- Adonai Mitchell (WR)

- Roman Wilson (WR)

- Maason Smith (DT) 

- Patrick Paul (OT) 

 

* Ironically the Bengals have shown interest in all of them and could draft any of them in Rd 1 or 2. 

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On 4/15/2024 at 10:48 AM, Cricket said:


Based upon the plethora of mock drafts, and the knowledge of the potential players spewed forth in this forum, I would recommend trading back a few spots in Round-1, still getting a coveted player plus some additional draft capital.  THEN using our draft capital to move up in Round-2 and/or get a second Round-2 pick…or Round-3 pick.  Let’s have more picks in “the sweet spot”, wherever that might be.  🦗

 

The use of a certain word in this post always reminds me of The Three Amigos and this touching story:

 

A person had just delivered the eulogy of a dear friend, at the end, another person approached the podium and asked "Can I say a word?" The first person replied "Why certainly" The second person said "Plethora" to which the first person replied "Thanks, that means a lot" Now back to your regularly scheduled post 

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51 minutes ago, MOC said:

The use of a certain word in this post always reminds me of The Three Amigos and this touching story:

 

A person had just delivered the eulogy of a dear friend, at the end, another person approached the podium and asked "Can I say a word?" The first person replied "Why certainly" The second person said "Plethora" to which the first person replied "Thanks, that means a lot" Now back to your regularly scheduled post 


…and I thought of that exchange while I typed in that word.  😎

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https://www.cincyjungle.com/2024/4/16/24124936/2024-nfl-draft-day-2-offensive-tackle-options-bengals

 

Nice article on OT's who may be there and of interest for Round Two if the Bengals would go Byron Murphy in Round 1... which I would not mind at all.

Some familiar names here....

Patrick Paul, Houston

Javon Foster, Missouri

Jordan Morgan, Arizona

Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma

Kingsley Suamataia, BYU

All seem to have high upside but still... some "ifs", question marks and disclaimers but all have the dreaded Po-ten-tial.

Dunno... could be a Jackson Carman or Dumwad Jones.

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