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1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

That's a better mock, at least hits the key positions. I'd take another DT in round 6 or 7 though. 

Maybe but isn't Rd 6 and 7 usually players that can fill in later but more ST types for Simmons initially?

 

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The late rounds are even more of a crapshoot than the early ones. You can take a specialist like Tory Taylor (we don't need him but) Will Reichard. Or a return specialist. Or guys who have a good quality but obvious limitations that have to be schemed around. Or guys who have shown flashes but are inconsistent. Or the knuckleheads who have talent but a knack for finding trouble. Etc. There won't be flawless prospects this late but there will still be guys who can potentially contribute, even in a thinner than average draft class like 2024. We got Iosivas and Ivey in rounds 6 and 7 last year and they both made the roster. With our general lack of depth at some positions, that could easily happen again. 

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Solid draft there - Franklin is talented as a vertical WR, but there are others I’d prefer… ‘course, I don’t know who was there when the picks were made. Sinnott would be a nice get and so would Ruke. 
 

On day 3 guys, Tracy is  a very good back. McGlothern is a guy supposedly that they’ve looked at pretty closely. Nugent had a really solid college career. And they needed and got a punter, which is good news, as they need competition there. 

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Pretty good draft, especially from the 3rd round on. 

 

- Ben Sinnott is one of my favorite TEs. Zac always talks about what a great TE coach that James Casey is. How about giving him a mid round draft pick to work with? Cincinnati has gone longer without drafting a TE than any other team in the NFL. Maybe this year...

 

- Tyrone Tracy would be a great RB pick, especially in the 6th round. I do want the RB position to be addressed in the draft, just later on Day Three. The team has too many other pressing needs to go RB early. Tracy is a converted WR, is older than teams might prefer and is very new to the RB position but has so many of the physical traits that teams are looking for. Simmons would love him on special teams too.

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https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2024/04/21/heres-cincinnati-bengals-writer-kelsey-conways-look-at-the-first-three-rounds-of-the-nfl-dmock-draft/

 

Enquirer's Kelsey Conway's image.png.041d120bc7aabfda2bda973af96bfa76.png :wub: Three Round Mock

Cheat Sheet:

1. Byron Murphy

2. Keon Coleman WR Florida State

3.  Blake Fisher, the other Notre Dame OT

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the fatal error here for her like everyone else picking Byron Murphy in the first round (I, too, would love it) is he won't

be there.

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2 hours ago, High School Harry said:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2024/04/21/heres-cincinnati-bengals-writer-kelsey-conways-look-at-the-first-three-rounds-of-the-nfl-dmock-draft/

 

Enquirer's Kelsey Conway's image.png.041d120bc7aabfda2bda973af96bfa76.png :wub: Three Round Mock

Cheat Sheet:

1. Byron Murphy

2. Keon Coleman WR Florida State

3.  Blake Fisher, the other Notre Dame OT

::::::::::::::::

the fatal error here for her like everyone else picking Byron Murphy in the first round (I, too, would love it) is he won't

be there.


“Fatal error”???  💀 That’s a bit harsh.  
 

I prefer the Bengals trade back a few slots in round 1, still get a really good player and get an extra 3rd round pick; then use other draft capital to either move up in rounds 2 , 3, or 4 to get the guys they want, and/or to get even more picks in the sweet spot.  

However, what is likely to happen:  

 

SOMEONE will unexpectedly still be available at 18 that they just can’t get themselves to pass on.  “The player we have ranked 13th is still available…!!!”
 

We then spend the next few rounds waiting and hoping that certain players fall to us…being disappointed a time or two, and lucking out a time or two.  
 

…at least it won’t be fatal. 😎


It will be what it will be…and after each pick, this board will be live with discussions (and sometimes disgust) about the players that we should have taken instead.  
 

I’m looking forward to seeing what most of you have to say…😎

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I don't mind if we use pick 18 on a top talent at WR, CB, or TE. There aren't any safeties, running backs, linebackers worthy of round 1 this year and only 1 TE. It's a weak group of edge rushers which has pushed the DTs up the board a bit. This is a good draft for QBs and O-linemen and receivers. It's also fairly thin at CB. 

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1 hour ago, Cricket said:


“Fatal error”???  💀 That’s a bit harsh.  
 

I prefer the Bengals trade back a few slots in round 1, still get a really good player and get an extra 3rd round pick; then use other draft capital to either move up in rounds 2 , 3, or 4 to get the guys they want, and/or to get even more picks in the sweet spot.  

However, what is likely to happen:  

 

SOMEONE will unexpectedly still be available at 18 that they just can’t get themselves to pass on.  “The player we have ranked 13th is still available…!!!”
 

We then spend the next few rounds waiting and hoping that certain players fall to us…being disappointed a time or two, and lucking out a time or two.  
 

…at least it won’t be fatal. 😎


It will be what it will be…and after each pick, this board will be live with discussions (and sometimes disgust) about the players that we should have taken instead.  
 

I’m looking forward to seeing what most of you have to say…😎

Oh, I totally agree.

Someone will slide I simply do not think it will be Murphy.

If he does, The Bengals should be on him like Stink on Stealers.

As we know... five of the top 17 will be quarterbacks some of whom artificially inflated 

because next year is a poor quarterback draft (per an article I read and cannot find) barring

a few early declarations (Arch's grandson and namesake?).

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1 hour ago, sparky151 said:

I don't mind if we use pick 18 on a top talent at WR, CB, or TE. There aren't any safeties, running backs, linebackers worthy of round 1 this year and only 1 TE. It's a weak group of edge rushers which has pushed the DTs up the board a bit. This is a good draft for QBs and O-linemen and receivers. It's also fairly thin at CB. 

Besides Bowers who won't be there, top priorities have to be O line and D line.

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https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2024/04/22/bengals-close-eye-mel-kiper-favorite-2024-nfl-draft-ot-prospect/

 

The Bengals are know for surprises in the draft.  No, I do NOT expect to see this guy in round one.

Last I heard of him was justrightnow.

But if he's there in round 3... worth a thought.

Bengals should keep close eye on Mel Kiper's favorite 2024 NFL draft OT prospect

 

Most fans know the big names to watch for the Cincinnati Bengals in the 2024 NFL draft.

But this late in the process, experts are more than happy to reveal some of their favorites who might currently fly under the proverbial radar.

Take ESPN’s Mel Kiper, who just listed his favorite prospects at every position in the draft — and his name at offensive tackle is a surprise.

It’s one the Bengals front office — and fans — should probably keep in mind, too: Washington offensive tackle Roger Rosengarten.   (who?)

Kiper says Rosengarten has gone overshadowed because of teammate Troy Fautanu (who Kiper lists as his favorite guard), but that he could slip into the first round:

 

Sez Mel... "Rosengarten might have been a top-10 pick in next year’s draft if he had stayed in school for another season. That’s how highly I think of him. The 6-foot-5 308-pounder started at right tackle for the Huskies over the past two seasons, and he did not allow a single sack on 1,158 pass-blocking plays in that time frame. He locked down the blind side for left-handed quarterback Michael Penix Jr."

 

 

This all puts Rosengarten is a really sweet spot for the Bengals. Maybe they agree with Kiper and strike a trade down from No. 18 to secure him later in the opening round while also acquiring more high-value draft picks.

But the other side of that might be a trade up from No. 49 in the second round on Day 2. If Rosengarten slips to the second round, the Bengals have 10 picks and only so many roster spots, anyway. If they value him as long-term option behind Trent Brown, that’s worth a move up on Day 2.

If nothing else, Rosengarten is clearly someone who should be on the mind of Bengals fans as things progress this week.

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3 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Oh, I totally agree.

Someone will slide I simply do not think it will be Murphy.

If he does, The Bengals should be on him like Stink on Stealers.

As we know... five of the top 17 will be quarterbacks some of whom artificially inflated 

because next year is a poor quarterback draft (per an article I read and cannot find) barring

a few early declarations (Arch's grandson and namesake?).

 

Arch Manning was a freshman at Texas last year and redshirted. He'll back up Ewers this year as a freshman and will be eligible for the 2026 draft. He'll presumably be the starter in 2025 but could very plausibly spend a second year as the starter there. I'd imagine you'll see the Saints in fullbore tank mode the year before they expect him to enter the draft. They have to do it at some point anyway to fix their cap situation.

 

3 hours ago, High School Harry said:

Besides Bowers who won't be there, top priorities have to be O line and D line.

 

Sort of. The top priority should be improving the roster as much as possible. We need a starting NT but can find one in round 3 or later. Trying to use a 3T at NT would be foolish as we get overrun in the AFCN. We are thin on the O-line and were very lucky that last year we started the same 5 players every game. That's rare and our new RT has a long history of injuries. So we need at least a good swing tackle and succession plan at RT. But it doesn't have to be done in round 1. I'm fine with us taking the RT at pick 18 but if we wait until pick 49, probably at least 1 of Paul, Rosengarten, Fisher, Suamataia, or Amegadjie will be on the board. 

 

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31 minutes ago, dex said:

TE Mitch Wilcox signs with New England.

 

Cincinnati will surely select a TE at some point in the draft...right? 

Man I want Sinnott, if he could be had in round 4...but someone could take him before that. Idk if round 3 is good value

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2 hours ago, dex said:

TE Mitch Wilcox signs with New England.

 

Cincinnati will surely select a TE at some point in the draft...right? 

 

Maybe. Gesicki is the replacement for Irv Smith. Hudson and Sample are back. I think Schreck is still around too. I'd guess 3 TEs on the 53 plus 1, maybe 2 on the PS. 

 

So it wouldn't be a surprise to draft a TE, the team probably doesn't see it as a priority. Though I'd be pissed off is Bowers is available at 18 and they take someone else. 

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Here's my dream draft scenario

 

18. JC Latham - OT Alabama

 

Latham is an ideal RT prospect that compares to our current RT, Trent Brown. Latham is a physical freak that could be the next Willie Anderson. 

 

 

49. Zac Frazier - OC/OG WVU

Frazier is a former state-champion wrestler who understands leverage and is also an extremely smart player who is all Big 12 academic team...in short, he's an ideal prospect to QB the offensive line. He can play LG while learning from Karras or slide over to RG after Kappa's contract expires, he's the type of player the Bengals need to fortify the offensive line for the remainder of Burrow's tenure with the Bengals. 

 

 

80. T'Vondre Sweat -NT/DT  Univ. of Texas

 

Losing DJ Reader was a big blow for the Bengals' defense and the Bengals didn't sign a run-stuffing DT in FA to replace him yet, despite their best efforts. Sweat is considered to be the best run-stuffing DT in the draft and would be an ideal fit for the defensive line. He was considered to be a 2nd round pick but a recent DUI arrest may drop him from some teams' draft boards.

 

 

97. Braelon Allen RB - Wisconsin

With the Bengals trading Joe Mixon to the Texans and adding Zack Moss in the offseason there is a need for a power back to get the short yardage and wear down defenses as none of the backs currently on the roster fit that mold. Allen is a bruiser at 225 lbs with thick legs that make it hard for one defender to bring down in the open field. He's also great a running through arm tackles and not getting tripped up in the open field, something that Mixon struggled with. Adding Allen to the mix with Moss and Brown would give the Bengals a full compliment of runners to balance out the passing game. 

 

 

115. Brendan Rice WR - USC

The son of the greatest football player ever, Jerry Rice, is an intriguing prospect who can develop into a legit starter with some solid coaching and a great QB. He needs some refinement on his routes, but athletically he's as gifted as any prospect in the draft. If he has any of his Dad's legendary work ethic he will be a starter in the NFL in a year or two. Also, he's a dynamic KR that would be an asset for the Bengals to help them take advantage of the new kickoff rules. 

 

 

 

149. Johnny Dixon CB - PSU

With Mike Hilton in the last year of his deal the Bengals need a slot CB that can replace him, while there are a few candidates on the roster adding Dixon to the mix is a smart plan. Dixon is a scrappy CB who understands how to get underneath the opposing WR to make a play on the ball and he's capable of coming off the edge on a blitz to stop a runner or QB dead in their tracks.

 

 

194. Myles Cole - DE/OLB Texas Tech 

When you talk about physical freaks, Myles Cole is what comes to mind. He's 6'6 280 lbs and ran a 4.67/40 at the NFL combine. He's falling to the last day of the draft because he's extremely raw and relied on his physical traits vs. having a defined set of moves to be successful. Myles started his career at Louisaina-Monroe before transferring to Texas Tech. He's yet to have the production that someone of his physical traits should have at that level, so that's why he's available at 194. I envision him as a Joker/DE/OLB in Lou's defense, he can be the 5th DE in the 5-2 alignments that Lou likes to play on early downs because of his ability to cover TE's or RB's in the flat or get after it in the run game. 

 

 

214. Cornelius Johnson - WR Univ of Michigan

 

Johnson is a great athlete that is still figuring out how to play the WR position at a high level, a lot of his success in college was because of his god given talents so he's going to have to work on route running and overall understanding of passing concepts and defenses. He can be a special teams contributor while he develops and possibly be a starter in a few years. 

 

 

224. Dallin Holker - TE Colorado State

 

Holker is a true playmaker, he has great hands and body control to make tough catches and he's scared to go across the middle and get physical with opposing defenders. He doesn't get much separation and isn't the best athlete which is why he's available but he's productive. 

 

 

237. Tylan Grable - OT UCF

 

Grable is a former HS QB who is an athletic OT prospect who needs to get stronger and work on his fundamentals. He would benefit from a year or 2 on the practice squad to hone is skills before he is ready to play at the NFL level and be productive. 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, PatternMaster said:

49. Zac Frazier - OC/OG WVU

The first clip where he places Sweat on his backside, was pretty impressive. Seems like he gets good anchor and finishes. Everyone looks great in their highlight films, but this one looks interesting. 

 

And the Bengals haven't had a C-G from WV since Rich Braham

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12 minutes ago, Le Tigre said:

The first clip where he places Sweat on his backside, was pretty impressive. Seems like he gets good anchor and finishes. Everyone looks great in their highlight films, but this one looks interesting. 

 

And the Bengals haven't had a C-G from WV since Rich Braham

 

Yeah, Frazier is an impressive prospect, hopefully, the Bengals can get him in the 2nd round.

 

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