Tigris Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 After the bye, who do you go with? It would be hard for me as a coach to pull Vincent out of there but then what does that do for Rey M's psyche? He seems like someone you have to watch so he doesn't shut down, in my opinion. I can't even decide. Gonna be a tough decision for Zim and Co Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 A little of both. Rey M on running plays, V Rey on passing downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Doesn't sound like Maualuga is going to be completely healthy the rest of the season. Mix in Maualuga to see what he can give you, but Vinnie gets the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I expect VRey to take over the Mays/Lamur role. Maualuga and Harrison on first and 2nd down base formation. Maualuga as first and 2nd down nickel backer. VRey as 3rd down nickel backer. It was Mays that would come in on 3rd downs for Maualuga. They are almost always in the nickel on 3rd down unless its 3rd and very short. Crocker/Kirkpatrick in for Harrison on all nickel packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 The defense just seems nastier with Vinney in there. He and Burfect light bitches up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Well having an extra serviceable veteran LB is better than too few of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 The defense just seems nastier with Vinney in there. He and Burfect light bitches up. I think that's slightly a mirage of the Atkins injury. Ever since Geno got hurt, Zimmer has gotten a lot more creative with his calls rather than playing teams straight up. That has freed Vinny and others up to make plays as the defense, even without Geno, is now a lot less predictable and teams are having trouble figuring out who's rushing, and who's dropping. They've also faced the 21st, and 26th ranked offenses in points per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I say keep it the way it is. This defense is playing even better with the new Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I read somewhere that Harrison asked Zim to let him play DT in Genos spot. I think he could handle it honestly. Harrison is very football smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bunghole| Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 After the way Vinny Rey has played, I can't see Zimmer not figuring a way to get him onto the field even when Maualuga comes back. And to be honest, we look faster and more aggressive out there with Vinny and Burfict than we ever did with Maualuga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I think that's slightly a mirage of the Atkins injury. Ever since Geno got hurt, Zimmer has gotten a lot more creative with his calls rather than playing teams straight up. That has freed Vinny and others up to make plays as the defense, even without Geno, is now a lot less predictable and teams are having trouble figuring out who's rushing, and who's dropping. They've also faced the 21st, and 26th ranked offenses in points per game. Good points. As long as Ray M. is healthy, it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Joker Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 50/50 here. Rey M was having his best year as a Bengal. I was pissed that they resigned him in the off season. Vinny had a great game today for sure. Got to be a way to get them both on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Elflocko| Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Rey > Rey Yeah. :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I read somewhere that Harrison asked Zim to let him play DT in Genos spot. I think he could handle it honestly. Harrison is very football smart. Unless I'm mistaken, Harrison did get some snaps at DT in passing situations. OT: Anybody that thinks Richie Incognito is a "bully" would shit their pants if James Harrison came within ten feet of them. That's one mean, nasty motherfucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I'd go with Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Unless I'm mistaken, Harrison did get some snaps at DT in passing situations. OT: Anybody that thinks Richie Incognito is a "bully" would shit their pants if James Harrison came within ten feet of them. That's one mean, nasty motherfucker. Not to his teammates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 A little of both. Rey M on running plays, V Rey on passing downs? This is what I am thinking. Good problem to have. Rey M. is underrated against the run. He gets up in there and really clogs the gaps. You sometimes see him meet the pulling guard in the hole and knock the OG backwards. There are plays like that where he doesn't get the tackle, but deserves credit for there being no running lane. V. Rey seems to have a much better feel for dropping in coverage, recognizing screens getting setup, etc. Instead of Rey M. playing 98% of the snaps or whatever the number was, I think you swap him out on passing downs, 2 minute drill, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 This is what I am thinking. Good problem to have. Rey M. is underrated against the run. He gets up in there and really clogs the gaps. You sometimes see him meet the pulling guard in the hole and knock the OG backwards. There are plays like that where he doesn't get the tackle, but deserves credit for there being no running lane. V. Rey seems to have a much better feel for dropping in coverage, recognizing screens getting setup, etc. Instead of Rey M. playing 98% of the snaps or whatever the number was, I think you swap him out on passing downs, 2 minute drill, etc. Agreed. Vincent has definitely showed he deserves some snaps on D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Doesn't sound like Maualuga is going to be completely healthy the rest of the season. Mix in Maualuga to see what he can give you, but Vinnie gets the start. Has there been something reported that I missed? All Ive seen is Maualuga should be full tilt after the bye. I think Rey will get his job back and Ray will be the nickle LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I agree that both should get snaps. I thought V Rey was more of a run defender, but he's surprised me with his coverage, and with his well-timed blitzes. I'm sure Zim's scheming helps, but Vinny closes fast, and I don't see him getting caught out of position much, if at all. That said, I do like what Rey M brings as far as going downhill and smacking people, and his pass coverage has improved, too. It's encouraging to know that with Taze, the Reys, plus Lamur and Porter coming back, and maybe Dimanche (beyond being a ST'er), they have a nice, young LB crew. And hats off to Paul Guenther - he's done a really nice job with the LBs, especially given some of the injury challenges they've had in his 2 year tenure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So, what is it? Diamonds in the rough? Bringing in guys who fit the system perfectly? Or is Zimmer just a bad ass and can work with whatever he's given? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Oh and kuddos to Ray M, he has really been playing SO much better this year than the past few. Comeback player of the year for this team. Glad to have been wrong about him. I think most of it has to do with them giving the headset to Taz and just letting Ray play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Has there been something reported that I missed? All Ive seen is Maualuga should be full tilt after the bye. I think Rey will get his job back and Ray will be the nickle LB. My bad I should have clarified. It was an assumption on my part.... nothing I've heard. Should have said see how Maualuga responds coming off injury before starting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 So, what is it? Diamonds in the rough? Bringing in guys who fit the system perfectly? Or is Zimmer just a bad ass and can work with whatever he's given? Combination of things… Zim has a history of making chicken salad out of chicken shit, but I think they've picked up/taken chances on some guys that have athleticism plus *something* special about them, and they've worked out. Taze has great instincts; Lamur is a former S who has excellent coverage skills; V Rey is really smart and consistent. Being a technique hound has really resurrected some guys' careers, too. Look at Newman and Jones, for example. Luck has played a part, too. What's cool about Zimmer is that it seems like guys see that he puts you in a position to succeed, and they feed off of that. There are several examples beyond LB - Dingleberry, Crocker, etc. Guys that nobody wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 It seems to me that people had overlooked just how athletic Vinny Rey was. I was so excited about him as a UDFA out of Duke for no other reason than his numbers, which made him by far the most athletic LB on our team at the time (DiManche may have him beat now). I'm not at all surprised by his pass coverage abilities. The guy had great speed (4.5s) and agility numbers. What I'm so happy to see is how well he's been playing in space, which is the one weakness that Ray M has (and which happens to be a particular strength of Burficts: you aren't going to shake that guy in space). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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