Could Terrell Owens land with the Bengals?

[eva4ben-gal]

What are the odds TO is using the Bengals to drive up his value to other teams? 10 years ago I say 100%, now maybe just 50-50

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='eva4ben-gal' date='12 February 2010 - 06:39 PM' timestamp='1266017996' post='863142']
What are the odds TO is using the Bengals to drive up his value to other teams? 10 years ago I say 100%, now maybe just 50-50
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I don't know if that's really possible for him anymore, at his age and after pissing off so many fans/teammates/coaches.

I too would like to see TO come here. Even if he had an off year with Fitzpatrick as his QB, he still averaged 15.1 ypc. He would certainly help this passing attack, especially in light of the Jones signing.

If TO comes here, that's actually a pretty damn good and (somewhat veteran) WR corps. Chad, TO, Coles, Jones, Caldwell, Quan. I don't think there'd be room for Simpson in this scenario, however. We'd probably need to jettison his salary and roster spot. Would we still draft a WR in the first three rounds under this scenario? Jeez, throw Coffman in there and a couple picks and returns from injuries, we may have ourselves a hell of an offense next season, in BOTH phases.

[Rumble In the Jungle]

[quote name='Bengals1181' date='12 February 2010 - 06:33 PM' timestamp='1266017616' post='863139']
Simpson is bigger than Chad.


I too am warming to the TO idea. He was pretty quiet in Buffalo, even with the media baiting him constantly. The only thing that would keep me from wanting it is that I wouldn't give him more than a 1yr deal, so we still need WR's of the future.
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i didn't mean in size but in their roll with the team. but agree on the rest.

[scharm]

Fuck it, bring him in. They need to get to the endzone more and that's what TO has been able to do. Plus it gets people talking about Bengals in the offseason more which makes it move faster.

[Jamie_B]

I just hope we dont break the bank on him. We need to keep some of the money for our own guys getting long term deals.

[eva4ben-gal]

[quote name='Jamie_B' date='12 February 2010 - 09:23 PM' timestamp='1266027808' post='863199']
I just hope we dont break the bank on him. We need to keep some of the money for our own guys getting long term deals.
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TO should probably come pretty cheap unless all this grandstanding by Chad is driving up the asking price. There is a good chance the Bengals will be the only team looking for his services unless a team like Baltimore or Miami is looking for a band-aid at the receiver position too. This year will also be uncapped so if you sign TO to a one-year deal he shouldn't affect the ability of the team to sign players long-term.

[Orange 'n Black]

I'd like to see it happen. This makes our top 4 all former #1s who have the ability to be dominant. If we bat .500 on the group we still have two great receivers.

[Inigo Montoya]

[quote name='eva4ben-gal' date='12 February 2010 - 06:39 PM' timestamp='1266017996' post='863142']
What are the odds TO is using the Bengals to drive up his value to other teams? 10 years ago I say 100%, now maybe just 50-50
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Considering that free agency doesn't start until March 1, I'm a little skeptical about talk of Terrell Owens as a Bengal. I see most of it as hype for TO to drum up a market for his services. That being said, he's open to talking and he proved last year that he'd go to a small market if the offer was sufficient. It's a wild card because TO might demand too much money or Marvin might not want him in the locker room.

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='Inigo Montoya' date='12 February 2010 - 10:45 PM' timestamp='1266032755' post='863214']
Considering that free agency doesn't start until March 1, I'm a little skeptical about talk of Terrell Owens as a Bengal. I see most of it as hype for TO to drum up a market for his services. That being said, he's open to talking and he proved last year that he'd go to a small market if the offer was sufficient. It's a wild card because TO might demand too much money or Marvin might not want him in the locker room.
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He only had the one offer last year if I recall.

[Who Dey Forever]

[quote name='Rumble In the Jungle' date='12 February 2010 - 05:53 PM' timestamp='1266015231' post='863129']
i am starting to want TO to come here now. have Chad, TO, Jones, and the little dudes in Caldwell and Simpson.
[/quote]
Why Simpson and not Cosby? Cosby has caught more balls than Simpson and he was a rookie!!!

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='Jamie_B' date='12 February 2010 - 09:23 PM' timestamp='1266027808' post='863199']
I just hope we dont break the bank on him. We need to keep some of the money for our own guys getting long term deals.
[/quote]


if they sign TO, Coles is surely gone. TO got $6.5 million from Buffalo. Add in another year of age and a good shot at a deep playoff run, and I think you can get him for the $4.5 million Coles is due to make.

[Inigo Montoya]

[quote name='Bengals1181' date='13 February 2010 - 10:24 AM' timestamp='1266074654' post='863267']
if they sign TO, Coles is surely gone. TO got $6.5 million from Buffalo. Add in another year of age and a good shot at a deep playoff run, and I think you can get him for the $4.5 million Coles is due to make.
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I could live with that. TO has more left in the tank at this point, even though they both have shaky hands.

[oldschooler]

From James Walker's Mail Bag . . .



[b]Joe from Greenville, N.C.,[/b] writes: [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1056"][color="#225db7"]Terrell Owens[/color][/url] to the [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin"][color="#608fd6"]Cincinnati Bengals[/color][/url]? Doesn't No. 85 ([url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2584"][color="#225db7"]Chad Ochocinco[/color][/url]) cause enough disruption?

[b]James Walker:[/b] I don't know about that, Joe. I have a strange feeling that T.O. might work in Cincinnati, especially if the team is winning and both receivers are productive. I'm still on the fence with this possibility. But that's why owner Mike Brown and head coach Marvin Lewis are paid big bucks to determine if this could work for their team.


[url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/9508/walkers-weekend-mailbag-10"]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/9508/walkers-weekend-mailbag-10[/url]

[CougarQuest]

The good news for Marvin if TO signs with Cincinnati with Chad......he'd almost be guaranteed to be the spokesperson for Tylenol.

[oldschooler]

[size="5"][b]Does T.O. have value as a free agent?[/b]
[/size]Five landing spots for the veteran wide receiver.

Matt Bowen

February 17, 2010, 06:59 AM EST Tuesday, [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Where-will-Chester-Taylor-play-in-2010.html"]we talked about the Vikings' Chester Taylor[/url] — a player who could be the hottest name once free agency opens. Today, I want to talk about Terrell Owens, who is also set to become a free agent on March 5.

But how much and what type of value does a player like Owens — who will turn 37 next season — have this offseason?

Owens led the Buffalo Bills in receiving last season with 55 receptions for 829 yards and 5 TDs, despite playing with a musical chairs rotation at QB. Yes, there's still production there, but even T.O. has to be honest that his skills no longer demand a No. 1 role on a team, or even a No. 2, depending on where he ends up.

In the past, opposing defenses would have to game plan for T.O. Often, we would see teams play a form of Cover 2 to his side of the field (where a corner could get a jam on Owens and slow him down to protect the deep safety over the top), or various forms of 2-Man.

But that's changed. Owens struggles to get off the jam, he doesn't have the separation speed once he gets onto a safety's cushion, and outside of the 3-step game (hitch, smash, slant, out), he isn't as much of a threat to the top NFL secondaries.

However, he's still T.O., and there will still be teams interested in his services.

The one-year deal he got in Buffalo last year for $6-plus million? Not going to happen in 2010. He will most likely sign another one-year deal because teams will be unwilling to give him up front money that puts him on the books for more than one season.

Talking yesterday to league sources, the same numbers continued to come up. Look for Owens to sign a one-year deal in the $2.5-million to $3.5-million range with incentives built in that could push the deal close to the $5-million range.

Is that a deal you think your team is willing to offer? I still see Owens as a receiver who can get behind the lower half of the league's corners and could still be viewed as a strong red zone option.

Let's look at five options for Owens in 2010:

[b]1. Cincinnati Bengals [/b]

Laveranues Coles is nothing more than a possession wideout at this point in his career, and the more you read about the Matt Jones deal, the more you scratch your head. Chad Ochocinco needs another playmaker opposite him, one that draws attention. Ocho is too easy to take away right now with the wide receivers they have in Cincy. Not a bad call with the running game of Cedric Benson to lean on.

[b]2. Tampa Bay Buccaneers [/b]

Let's face it, the Bucs are desperate at WR, and with Antonio Bryant set to test the free-agent market, they need to at least give Owens a look. The last thing this club wants to do is to head into the season with a wide receiving corps thrown together over the summer for QB Josh Freeman. The more weapons you give him, the more he will develop in 2010. But will Tampa be active in free agency?

[b]3. Detroit Lions [/b]

Maybe this is a stretch for Jim Schwartz, but with Matthew Stafford at QB, why not at least take a look at Owens? Calvin Johnson is the vertical threat for this offense, but outside of him, there are no other playmakers in this scheme, and Bryant Johnson isn't the answer at No. 2. Yes, the Lions want to build for the future, but another awful season like '09 and it could be time to start over again. Owens gives them more of a chance to compete in the NFC North.

[b]4. Kansas City Chiefs [/b]



I would think the combo of Todd Haley and Charlie Weis would intrigue Owens. It's a young team, but with the money this club invested in QB Matt Cassel, it needs to add more weapons. The Chiefs already have Dwayne Bowe and Chris Chambers, but with Weis' system, there will be three wideouts on the field the majority of the time. Owens would catch a ton of balls in this scheme, and that will make him happy.

[b]5. New York Giants [/b]

Really? Sure, if T.O. is willing to play a No. 3 role behind Steve Smith and Hakeem Nicks. Think of the Giants when they go to their Zebra personnel (3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB). He could be a factor on third downs, and he could provide QB Eli Manning with a weapon inside the 20-yard line. Only question: will that satisfy Owens?





[url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Does-TO-have-value-as-a-free-agent.html"]http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Does-TO-have-value-as-a-free-agent.html[/url]

[oldschooler]

[b]T.O. back in the B-Lo?[/b]
[url="/players/terrellowens/profile?id=OWE755129"][color="#364c88"]Terrell Owens[/color][/url] is on record as saying he is open to remaining with the [url="/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF"][color="#364c88"]Buffalo Bills[/color][/url] for a second season under the right circumstances. By "right circumstances," it is safe to assume that he is talking, first, about his contract and, second and third, about an upgrade at quarterback and a scheme that would attack more aggressively through the air than it did during his first year with the team.

The contract will be the tricky part. It seems highly unlikely that the Bills would again be willing to pay Owens what he received to join them after he was released by the [url="/teams/dallascowboys/profile?team=DAL"][color="#364c88"]Dallas Cowboys[/color][/url]: a guaranteed $6.5 million for one season. The deal surprised many NFL club executives because there were no other bidders, but the Bills were convinced they would get a strong return on the investment, which they did in robust season-ticket and merchandise sales.

Owens' on-field impact was far less dramatic, leading to heavy speculation around the league that the most he could expect in another contract, from the Bills or any other team, is [b]around $3 million.[/b] Even if he were OK with that sort of offer from Buffalo, he would likely have trepidation over the fact that it is entirely possible that the Bills will go back to [url="/players/trentedwards/profile?id=EDW720778"][color="#364c88"]Trent Edwards[/color][/url] as their starting quarterback on the hope that new coach Chan Gailey, known for his expertise in getting maximum production from mediocre players at the position, could do plenty to help improve his game. Also, it isn't necessarily a given that Gailey will employ an aggressive passing game. His history is tailoring his offense to his personnel, and the Bills' question marks at quarterback and on the offensive line could very well prompt him to go with a more conservative approach.




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[JC]

Mark me down for it. It sounds like Matt Jones could possibly be a TC casualty and who knows what we will get in the draft. We need instant offense for this team. I'm still on board for Iupati at LG to help the run game, but I also wouldn't mind a tight end we could split into the slot and could block a little bit. Anything that can get open for a few second would be an upgrade and would help Chad...a lot.

[oldschooler]

[b][url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/17/ochocinco-says-hell-take-a-pay-cut-for-to/"][size="5"]Ochocinco says he'll take a pay cut for T.O.[/size][/url][/b]
Posted by Mike Florio on February 17, 2010 2:32 PM ET


Bengals receiver [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2544"]Chad Ochocinco[/url], whose quest to get out of Cincinnati in 2008 fundamentally arose from a desire to get more money, now says that he'll take a pay cut to get receiver [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=718"]Terrell Owens[/url] to town.

Ochocinco made the comments to a citizen journalist while leaving Roscoe's House of Chicken 'n' Waffles in Los Angeles, and the comments [url="http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/17/chad-ochocinco-carson-palmer-terrell-owens-roscoes-chicken-waffles-video/"]made their way to TMZ.com[/url].

Bob Glauber of [i]Newsday[/i] reported earlier today (in the portion of his article that we can see without prying open our change purse) that [url="http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754"]Ochocinco is the only person[/url] in the organization interested in T.O.

And though it might make sense for Chad to enlist quarterback [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=2550"]Carson Palmer[/url] to the cause, Chad says during the video and he and Palmer don't get along in the offseason.

Maybe it's because Carson is focused on getting ready for football season, and Chad is focused on doing things other than getting ready for football season.




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[oldschooler]

[b][url="http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754"]T.O. to the Bengals? Don't hold your breath[/url][/b]
10:35 AM By Bob Glauber



Chad Ochocinco has made it known - over and over and over again - that he'd like the Bengals to sign free agent receiver Terrell Owens, who isn't likely to return to the Bills in 2010.

How serious are the Bengals taking Ochocinco? Well, let's put it this way. I'm told by a source famiiar with the team's situation that Ochocinco is the only one discussing the matter.




[url="http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754"]http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754[/url]

[|Tigers Johnson|]

[quote name='oldschooler' date='17 February 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1266440781' post='863984']
[b][url="http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754"]T.O. to the Bengals? Don't hold your breath[/url][/b]
10:35 AM By Bob Glauber



Chad Ochocinco has made it known - over and over and over again - that he'd like the Bengals to sign free agent receiver Terrell Owens, who isn't likely to return to the Bills in 2010.

How serious are the Bengals taking Ochocinco? Well, let's put it this way. I'm told by a source famiiar with the team's situation that Ochocinco is the only one discussing the matter.




[url="http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754"]http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/glauber-s-nfl-hot-reads-1.811959/t-o-to-the-bengals-don-t-hold-your-breath-1.1765754[/url]
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That is not what i have heard....

[oldschooler]

[quote name='Tigers Johnson' date='17 February 2010 - 03:14 PM' timestamp='1266441261' post='863989']
That is not what i have heard....
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Me neither.

[Cricket]

[quote name='oldschooler' date='17 February 2010 - 04:06 PM' timestamp='1266440781' post='863984']

...Well, let's put it this way. I'm told by a source famiiar with the team's situation that [b]Ochocinco is the only one discussing the matter[/b].

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If someone from the Bengals (other than a player) were to discuss it, it would be tampering.

[sparky151]

TO is better and apparently cheaper than Coles. Come on down!

[oldschooler]

[quote name='Cricket' date='17 February 2010 - 03:33 PM' timestamp='1266442432' post='863998']
If someone from the Bengals (other than a player) were to discuss it, it would be tampering.
[/quote]


Great point. They would be a fool to tell someone in the media
that they are discussing it. That would be the easiest tampering
case ever.

[-GoBengals-]

[quote name='sparky151' date='17 February 2010 - 04:42 PM' timestamp='1266442950' post='864000']
TO is better and apparently cheaper than Coles. Come on down!
[/quote]

coles base salary is 4.65 mil this year...

how much exactly do you think TO is going to play for?