oldschooler Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [size="5"][b]Dilfer: Hass done in Seattle[/b] [/size]12:13PM ET [b] Matt Hasselbeck | [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sea/seattle-seahawks"] Seahawks[/url] | Interested: [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sf/san-francisco-49ers"] 49ers[/url]?, [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins"] Dolphins[/url]?, [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings"] Vikings[/url]?, [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4459"] Carson Palmer[/url]?, [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers"] Panthers[/url]?, [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ten/tennessee-titans"] Titans[/url]?, [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ari/arizona-cardinals"] Cardinals[/url]?, [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-bengals"] Bengals[/url]? [/b] [b] UPDATE:[/b] Sports Illustrated's Peter King's [url="http://twitter.com/#!/SI_PeterKing/status/64362418729517056"][color="#225db7"]top five destinations[/color][/url] for (apparently former) [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sea/seattle-seahawks"][color="#225db7"]Seattle Seahawks[/color][/url] quarterback [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1575"][color="#225db7"]Matt Hasselbeck[/color][/url], in order: 1) [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ari/arizona-cardinals"][color="#225db7"]Arizona Cardinals[/color][/url], 2) [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ten/tennessee-titans"][color="#225db7"]Tennessee Titans[/color][/url], 3) [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings"][color="#225db7"]Minnesota Vikings[/color][/url], 4) [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sf/san-francisco-49ers"][color="#225db7"]San Francisco 49ers[/color][/url], 5) [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins"][color="#225db7"]Miami Dolphins[/color][/url]. King added that [url="http://twitter.com/#!/SI_PeterKing/status/64362795000528896"][color="#225db7"]Hasselbeck's first option[/color][/url] would probably be to go to San Francisco.--- Sports Illustrated's Peter King just Tweeted [url="http://twitter.com/#!/SI_PeterKing/status/64358370123067392"][color="#225db7"]the following[/color][/url]: "[[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=649"][color="#225db7"]Trent Dilfer[/color][/url]] on ESPN: 'Matthew Hasselbeck is not going back' to Seattle." Hasselbeck will be a free agent whenever the lockout ends. Dilfer and Hasselbeck became friends when they played on the Seattle Seahawks together in the early part of last decade. Hasselbeck's free agency, Dilfer's credibility on Hasselbeck-related news, and King's Tweet are the only facts in this story right now. What you are about to read is based entirely on speculation. The [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-bengals"][color="#225db7"]Cincinnati Bengals[/color][/url], having drafted [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4459"][color="#225db7"]Carson Palmer[/color][/url]'s replacement in TCU quarterback [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/26122/andy-dalton"][color="#225db7"]Andy Dalton[/color][/url], have backed down on their stand to let Palmer retire rather than trade him. They've worked out a deal to send Palmer to Seattle, reuniting him with his USC coach Pete Carroll. Carroll and the Seahawks, then, would have no need for Hasselbeck, at least not enough to win a bidding war for the quarterback on the open market. If all that is true, where would Hasselbeck end up? The [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ari/arizona-cardinals"][color="#225db7"]Arizona Cardinals[/color][/url] are the most obvious option, a team that at this point in the draft still has a gaping hole at quarterback. Other teams that have drafted young quarterbacks -- including the [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ten/tennessee-titans"][color="#225db7"]Tennessee Titans[/color][/url], [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers"][color="#225db7"]Carolina Panthers[/color][/url], and, ironically, the Bengals -- may also be looking for a veteran to mentor their new talents. [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/features/rumors/_/date/20110430"]http://insider.espn...._/date/20110430[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 If they have decided to trade him, I hope they open it up to offers rather than just trading him to Seattle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='BengalBacker' timestamp='1304257384' post='989774'] If they have decided to trade him, I hope they open it up to offers rather than just trading him to Seattle. [/quote] Well, according to this, a trade is already agreed upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='Tigris' timestamp='1304257561' post='989775'] Well, according to this, a trade is already agreed upon. [/quote] [quote][b]What you are about to read is based entirely on speculation.[/b] [/quote] From paragraph above the one saying they've already agreed on a trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullichicken25 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 What kind of return would you guys expect in the trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Once again...all speculation, with no confirmed sources other than Dilfer and usual suspects of squawking heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Hobson tweeted yesterday they weren't going to trade him didnt he? ESPN isnt a real credible source for inside info anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='JC' timestamp='1304258830' post='989789'] [b]Hobson tweeted yesterday they weren't going to trade him didnt he?[/b] ESPN isnt a real credible source for inside info anyways. [/quote] pretty sure you're thinking of Charley Casserly. I'll believe this when I see it, but it would explain why the Seahawks never drafted a quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='mullichicken25' timestamp='1304257704' post='989777'] What kind of return would you guys expect in the trade? [/quote] I think that depends. If there are at least two teams interested, we might get more than most of us would expect. That's why I hope we openly listen to offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBengal Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Carson will be trading 3 INT's for a 3 Iron. Mike won't trade him unless it's for a king's ransom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I was hoping mike would say fuck carson and let him retire! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBacker Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='Rumble In the Jungle' timestamp='1304260450' post='989797'] I was hoping mike would say fuck carson and let him retire! [/quote] I'm ok with that too if that's what happens, but if we can rape someone for some great value, I'd trade him. I'd let him retire before I'd trade him for next to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='BengalBacker' timestamp='1304260803' post='989799'] I'm ok with that too if that's what happens, but if we can rape someone for some great value, I'd trade him. I'd let him retire before I'd trade him for next to nothing. [/quote] yeah, that's my thinking, too. it has to be a very legitimate offer, or to hell with it. under any comparison, he's the highest rated QB candidate on the market. we should be compensated as such....or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I also wouldn't be surprised that, if in fact this is true, that its actually a three team trade. ie.: Seattle gets Carson Palmer Philly gets Seattle's first round pick in 2012 (likely a mid-first) Cincinnati gets Kevin Kolb and Seattle's 4th rounder. I don't love Kolb, but I like him and think he can be a very good starter in the league. I also think he'd benefit from a running game he never had in Philly where he had to throw it 40 times a game in the starts he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1304261072' post='989801'] I also wouldn't be surprised that, if in fact this is true, that its actually a three team trade. ie.: Seattle gets Carson Palmer Philly gets Seattle's first round pick in 2012 (likely a mid-first) Cincinnati gets Kevin Kolb and Seattle's 4th rounder. I don't love Kolb, but I like him and think he can be a very good starter in the league. I also think he'd benefit from a running game he never had in Philly where he had to throw it 40 times a game in the starts he made. [/quote] We wouldn't trade for Kolb at this point. The only thing we may be looking for would be a one year mentor type so we can ease Dalton in like we did with Kitna and Carson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoBengal Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1304261072' post='989801'] I also wouldn't be surprised that, if in fact this is true, that its actually a three team trade. ie.: Seattle gets Carson Palmer Philly gets Seattle's first round pick in 2012 (likely a mid-first) Cincinnati gets Kevin Kolb and Seattle's 4th rounder. I don't love Kolb, but I like him and think he can be a very good starter in the league. I also think he'd benefit from a running game he never had in Philly where he had to throw it 40 times a game in the starts he made. [/quote] I understand your premise and think it makes sense, however, Kolb would be a stop gap until Dalton was ready, imo, so signing a guy with some experience off the street is more likely - even if Carson is dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='mullichicken25' timestamp='1304257704' post='989777'] What kind of return would you guys expect in the trade? [/quote] Housh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tybo Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 Anything less than a second rounder I would rather let him retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bengaled Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1304261072' post='989801'] I also wouldn't be surprised that, if in fact this is true, that its actually a three team trade. ie.: Seattle gets Carson Palmer Philly gets Seattle's first round pick in 2012 (likely a mid-first) Cincinnati gets Kevin Kolb and Seattle's 4th rounder. I don't love Kolb, but I like him and think he can be a very good starter in the league. I also think he'd benefit from a running game he never had in Philly where he had to throw it 40 times a game in the starts he made. [/quote] intriguing concept Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='bengaled' timestamp='1304262111' post='989813'] intriguing concept [/quote] thanks. though the above two posters make good points that Kolb wouldn't likely sign for only the two years the Bengals would probably want him. He'll want a long-term deal. He's in the last year of his contract so I'd think the Bengals would want someone for at least 2 years, or want more for Carson than just a 1yr starter and a 4th rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 [quote name='tybo' timestamp='1304262059' post='989811'] Anything less than a second rounder I would rather let him retire. [/quote] I'd agree with that. A 'get what you can' attitude opens the door to every disgruntled player in the future, and isn't worth the peanuts you'd have gotten for Palmer. Seattle needs to be offering enough that it is the Bengals who are in the position of strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbeyonddriven Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I'd take anything for Palmer, there is nothing worse then letting a player that doesn't want to be there linger around. It is a locker room/morale killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I know he's not a GM any longer, but Casserly on NFL-N yesterday was pretty adamant that Mike wouldn't trade Carson. That said, he indicated that if he were still a GM, he'd call Mike and try to get Carson if he needed a QB, to see what it'd take if Mike relented. He didn't hesitate in saying that he'd offer up a 1st round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|OneHeartBeat| Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I dont see it happening. Maybe if Carson hadn't made the threat then MB might have entertained the thought. The more I think about it, you can't let these players dictate to ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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