Senior Bowl Rosters, Practice and Game thread

[Oldcat]

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I don't think he's necessarily ever been cold to them. I think its likely more coincidence than anything.
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Even so, I have heard from and ESPN types and news articles about the team's supposed love for OSU players despite the total lack of anything to back it up.

[BBR]

[quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1327526282' post='1092156']

Even so, I have heard from and ESPN types and news articles about the team's supposed love for OSU players despite the total lack of anything to back it up.
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I read something once were they didn't like to take OSU guys straight from college because it's too close to their college stomping grounds. They want to make sure they're focused on football rather than going out and partying with their boys. You would also think the same thing would apply to drafting any Bearcats. Anyways, that was a long time ago, and I don't remember how credible the source was if at all.

I know Marvin has said good things about some of the OSU guys in the past - Larry Grant as an example. They also wanted Connor Barwin from UC until Rey dropped to them. So maybe the above is / was all just BS that somewhat wrote to justify the lack of OSU guys being drafted by them. Then again, maybe it's the whole reason Mardy Gilyard isn't here. They just pay lip service to the talents of the players from "local" universities but never have any real intention of drafting them.

[oldschooler]

[url="https://twitter.com/#!/McShay13"]McShay13[/url]Todd McShay




Four most talented players at Senior Bowl (IMO): 1. DE Coples, 2. CB Jenkins, 3. DE M. Ingram, 4. DE/OLB C. Upshaw.
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[B.A.B.]

What was Jenkins' problem? Weed?

[Bengals1181]

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What was Jenkins' problem? Weed?
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arrested for weed twice. also gotten into a couple on the field fights.

[Bengals1181]

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[size=3][u][b]Notes from the South practice…[/b][/u]

I thought [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html"]North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins[/url] looked a bit rusty yesterday. However, Wednesday he showcased impressive balance off the line in press bail, was consistently able to turn and run, and tracked the football extremely well. He was impossible for the bigger receivers on the South squad to separate from and was as dominant as any defensive back down here this week.[/size][/size]
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[size=3]However, not to be outdone was [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html"]Georgia CB Brandon Boykin[/url]. Boykin was again physical off the line today, smooth when asked to re-direct and much more balanced breaking down and closing on the football. He was really able to do a number on North Carolina WR Dwight Jones off the line, re-routing him out of a play before breaking up the pass.

Speaking of [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&position=wr"]North Carolina WR Dwight Jones[/url], no prospect has disappointed me more this week than him. He hasn’t been able to get off the line and beat any kind of jam. He was routinely re-routed significantly vs. smaller corners and looks more like an inside player only.

[url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&position=wr"]Texas A&M wide out Jeff Fuller[/url] is never going to separate much in the NFL, but he adjusts to the football and can balance himself well when going up to make a play down the field. However, he really struggled catching the football all practice long Wednesday. And for a guy who is going to need to win with corners draped all over him at the next level, having “plus” hands is a must, something he hasn’t shown since his junior year.

On the D-line, [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&position=olb"]Alabama DE Courtney Upshaw[/url] again used his combination of strength and leverage to overwhelm on contact as a pass rusher. However, he also did an impressive job turning speed into power on his outside speed rush, dropping his pad level and running his legs through the corner. He’s been a bear to block all week and looks like one of the safer prospects in this year’s draft.

[url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&position=ot"]Illinois OL Jeff Allen[/url] rebounded with a strong practice today. He played primarily at guard and did a nice job quickly getting off the football, extending his arms and sliding his feet through contact. He will struggle with leverage, but with some development he looks like a guy who can start inside in the NFL.

There is no denying the talent of [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&position=te"]LSU TE Deangelo Peterson[/url]. He’s an athletic kid who can run, get down the seam and has the potential to be a mismatch type “off the line Y” in the NFL. However, he’s struggled with attention to detail throughout his entire career, isn’t the cleanest of route runners and will drop the football. Looks like a “boom” or “bust” type guy.

Finally, [url="http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/college_big_board_rankings.html&position=rb"]Florida WR Chris Rainey [/url]looks like the most explosive skill guy down here. He’s run by opposing corners a number of times this week and has a “plus” natural burst to his game. Now, he is a bit inconsistent catching the football and is a developing route runner. However, this is a guy who can make plays with the football in space and certainly warrants a draft pick as a potential dynamic sub-package option.[/size][/size]
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[Jamie_B]

They had better do their due diligence on Jenkins, if he's put it behind him like B. Scott did, then I'd love the pick, if not, dear god please pass.

[JBandJoeyV]

[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1327540058' post='1092214']
They had better do their due diligence on Jenkins, if he's put it behind him like B. Scott did, then I'd love the pick, if not, dear god please pass.
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I asked this in the Urban Meyer thread on the college talk area, but didnt Urban recruit and coach Jenkins before he left for N Alabama? He might be able to give us some insight being an Ohio guy...not sure if he has a relationship with marvin or not, but I bet he would help out.

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='JBandJoeyV' timestamp='1327540226' post='1092216']

I asked this in the Urban Meyer thread on the college talk area, but didnt Urban recruit and coach Jenkins before he left for N Alabama? He might be able to give us some insight being an Ohio guy...not sure if he has a relationship with marvin or not, but I bet he would help out.
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He did, Jenkins said he would have still been at FL if Meyer was there.

[JBandJoeyV]

Id take him if hes the best corner available when we pick...I know the media will bash it, but who gives a shit at this point. The media still bashes us for guys getting arrested even though we got rid of the majority of those type guys.

[Jason]

[quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1327540286' post='1092217']


He did, Jenkins said he would have still been at FL if Meyer was there.
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Not true. Meyer will not tolerate some things. And from players he has already kicked out of OSU, multiple drug problems is one of them.

[texbengal]

[quote name='JBandJoeyV' timestamp='1327540355' post='1092218']Id take him if hes the best corner available when we pick...I know the media will bash it, but who gives a shit at this point. The media still bashes us for guys getting arrested even though we got rid of the majority of those type guys.[/quote]

If Jenkins' background checks out and he's high on their board, why not?

In the past few years, there have been other 1st round CBs with rap sheets who have turned out to be solid players...

- Aquib Talib, TB
- Vontae Davis, Miami
- Jimmy Smith, Baltimore

[Orange 'n Black]

[quote name='texbengal' timestamp='1327542301' post='1092230'] If Jenkins' background checks out and he's high on their board, why not? In the past few years, there have been other 1st round CBs with rap sheets who have turned out to be solid players... - Aquib Talib, TB - Vontae Davis, Miami - Jimmy Smith, Baltimore [/quote]

Talib got in huge trouble earlier this year, Bucs fans were wanting him cut. But it's a good point, if they feel comfortable taking him, go for it. He's an obvious talent and this team has a very strong locker room that can turn troubled guys into model citizens (a la Scott).

[cincity]

If they do pick Jenkins, he'll have Crock and Hall, for sure both are strong locker room characters, especially Hall since he'll be his running mate. And if they re-sign Adam, I think that would be a huge plus, because he can really tell him, "hey look, this is where I've been and this is what I've been through, and you don't want to do this like I did".. I

[texbengal]

[quote name='Orange 'n Black' timestamp='1327542774' post='1092231']

Talib got in huge trouble earlier this year, Bucs fans were wanting him cut. But it's a good point, if they feel comfortable taking him, go for it. He's an obvious talent and this team has a very strong locker room that can turn troubled guys into model citizens (a la Scott).[/quote]

Yeah, he was an aggravated assault suspect - shot at a guy outside a club... happened in Dallas. He still played... he's a talent, but a knucklehead who had problems when he was at Kansas.

[FulcherVulcher33]

I'm telling ya,boykin may be small but dude is a stud

[spicoli]

I like Boykin better than I like Gilmore and I'd say Gilmore is a borderline first rounder. He's making a helluva impression in Mobile right now so he very well might make it into the 1st by the time it's all said and done.

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='Jason' timestamp='1327542123' post='1092229']

Not true. Meyer will not tolerate some things. And from players he has already kicked out of OSU, multiple drug problems is one of them.
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I have no idea if Meyer would have let him stay or not, but Jenkins did say that.

[url="http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-08-09/sports/os-bianchi-janoris-jenkins-0819-20110809_1_muschamp-janoris-jenkins-urban-meyer"]http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-08-09/sports/os-bianchi-janoris-jenkins-0819-20110809_1_muschamp-janoris-jenkins-urban-meyer[/url]


[b] Janoris Jenkins: I'd still be playing for Gators if Urban Meyer was coaching[/b]


....click the link for the article.

[akiliMVP]

Boykin is damn near the same size of Jenkins I think

[JC]

If people think that there isn't worse going down in gainesville than marijuana possession and fights, they're crazy.

Sure..he shouldn't be smoking pot. But I'm willing to bet a lot of NFL players still smoke some form of weed and have a way to get around drug testing. Fights happen. Bernard Scott got kicked off a team for fighting. Some guys are just passionate.

Truth is..Janoris Jenkins will likely be the top talent on the board when we pick. He will be a position of need. One rookie isn't going to tear this team apart. He'd get his ass whooped real quick in that locker room if he starts trouble.

[Lewdog]

Definitely seems like the majority of the Bengals attention is to the defensive players and running backs at the game. Draft day might be more interesting than any other in recent years.

[Jason]

[quote name='JC' timestamp='1327553526' post='1092261']If people think that there isn't worse going down in gainesville than marijuana possession and fights, they're crazy.

Sure..he shouldn't be smoking pot. But I'm willing to bet a lot of NFL players still smoke some form of weed and have a way to get around drug testing. Fights happen. Bernard Scott got kicked off a team for fighting. Some guys are just passionate.

Truth is..Janoris Jenkins will likely be the top talent on the board when we pick. He will be a position of need. One rookie isn't going to tear this team apart. He'd get his ass whooped real quick in that locker room if he starts trouble.[/quote]

I'm not worried about him "tearing this team apart". I'm worried he does something stupid and winds up suspended by the league or arrested And thrown in jail and suddenly that's a first round pick wasted.

[oldschooler]

[b] [size=6]Jackson's five: Senior Bowl thoughts[/size][/b]



[b]MOBILE, Ala.[/b] — Let's catch up on the Senior Bowl…

[b] 1[/b]
By Wednesday night, many of the NFL scouts and coaches will be gone from Mobile, headed back to their respective cities after three days of watching Senior Bowl practices. They watched a solid group of prospects perform in NFL-type practices with NFL coaching, which makes the Senior Bowl so much more valuable from an actual football standpoint than the NFL Combine. It seems the strength of this group is on the defensive line, running backs (North team) and wide receivers (South team). Plus, there a handful of standout linebackers and defensive backs, like Florida's Janoris Jenkins, UNC's Zach Brown, Texas' Keenan Robinson, Georgia's Brandon Boykin, Furman's Ryan Steed and Louisiana-Lafayette's Dwight Bentley. The Bengals need top-level help in the secondary. Are guys worthy of their two first-round picks here in Mobile? We'll eventually find out.


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The standout quarterbacks have been Brandon Weeden of Oklahoma State and Russell Wilson of Wisconsin. Wilson is only 5-10, but he's shown that he sees the entire field, can make just about every throw and is worthy of a longer look. It's easy to dismiss smaller guys, but Wilson had a great season while playing behind an NFL-type offensive line and has been impressive on and off the field in Mobile. Weeden has been the class of the group with his prototype size (6-3, 219), strong arm and accuracy. He's 28, yes, but if he can play, that matters little ... and Weeden sure looks like he can play. Andy Dalton went to the Bengals at the top of the second round last year, No. 35 overall. My opinion is there's no way Weeden is still available past No. 40 this year. He might not make it to the second round at all. The Browns should plan accordingly.

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The North running backs have been very impressive. That group includes two familiar names — Ohio State's Daniel "Boom" Herron and Cincinnati's Isaiah Pead. They're probably a half-step behind Boise State's Doug Martin and Washington's Chris Polk. Martin and Polk are compact, explosive runners who know that being low to the ground is an asset. Both have helped their stock this week, but it seems Martin has improved a little more. Polk catches your eye, and Martin has had a couple "wow" moments. Alabama running back Trent Richardson is going to get an elite grade from almost every team. He has elite talent. But in today's NFL, it's far from a lock that he'll go in the top six picks, because so many teams are pass-happy and the shelf life of running backs is so short. That so many other backs seem ready to contribute at the NFL level makes passing on Richardson an easier decision and makes his standing one of the intriguing stories of this draft.

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In 97 percent of cases, this is the first time teams actually get to speak with draft prospects. A handful of small-school prospects make up the other three percent, but BCS programs (and most D-I programs) do not grant scouts personal access to players during the season for myriad reasons. That's why this catch-up time is so valuable. It's also why — just one example — when I tweeted that I saw Ohio State tackle Mike Adams interviewing with three Cleveland staffers Tuesday night, it doesn't mean the Browns are planning to draft him. It's just that they need to talk to him, need to get his contact information, need to get a feel for his personality and need to ask him questions — some basic, some difficult — that will help them paint the picture of the player and the person before they finalize their draft board. Adams will probably talk to all 32 teams at some point in Mobile this week. The ones he doesn't talk to will almost assuredly schedule him for a formal 15-minute interview at the NFL Combine next month. All 32 NFL draft boards will be different, but the main differences will be in the bottom third of players each team deems worthy. All 32 will scout the top 100-150 players, and all 32 consider every bit of information valuable.

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I interviewed Browns coach Pat Shurmur Tuesday. Because he wouldn't talk about the team's offensive coordinator search or its most glaring need, we talked a lot about the postseason and offseason evaluation process. When asked if the evaluation had shown that the Browns have enough good players already on the roster to make a leap next year, he said "I think we have a tremendous team." In fairness, he previously said "it's fair to say we can get better in every area," but then he said the Browns have a tremendous team.


A tremendous team. He really said that.

More from the Senior Bowl later.




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[oldschooler]

[b] [size=6]Bearcats' Pead bets versatility will help job search[/size][/b]

[b] [size=6]Former UC star impresses coaches at Senior Bowl[/size][/b]



MOBILE, Ala. - More than three weeks after concluding his University of Cincinnati football career, Isaiah Pead is on the road to the NFL draft.

The former Bearcats running back has impressed scouts during this week’s Senior Bowl practices with his speed to the outside.

In a surprise, though, the one area where Pead might excel in Saturday’s game is on punt returns. Pead has been fielding punts during special teams drills all three days and some special teams coaches like what they have seen.

Prior to this season, Pead returned only one kickoff, and that was as a freshman. But with UC’s return units struggling, Pead joined the punt return team. Including the Liberty Bowl game, Pead had eight returns for 74 yards, with a long of 34 yards against Syracuse.

“I had been fielding returns all four years but didn’t get put in a game because coach didn’t want to risk an injury,” Pead said. “After we lost two games in a row, he finally pulled the trigger and made it happen.

“I like punt returns because you can draw up where you want it to be but once the ball is in the air it’s instinctive. You have to be an elusive guy back there.”

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier, who is coaching the North squad, is a fan of what Pead has displayed on special teams. He uttered the line that is a staple during the draft process – the more versatility you can show, the better you are liked by teams.

For a player who was named the Big East’s Offensive Player of the Year and led the conference in rushing yards (1,259) and touchdowns (12), it might be strange to hear people raving about Pead’s return skills. But one of the big things here is the ability to show that you are more than a one-dimensional prospect.

Besides returns, Pead has the added dimension of catching the ball out of the backfield. He was third on the team in receptions (39) for 319 yards and three touchdowns this past season.

“Any role that is going to be fulfilled, if it is catching screens, lining up in slot or I formation, I feel like I’m an all-purpose back kind of guy,” Pead said.

Pead is part of an interesting group of running backs on the North team. Boise State’s Doug Martin and Washington’s Chris Polk have grabbed most of the headlines because they are projected to go in the first two rounds of the draft, but Pead’s quickness and his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield makes him an intriguing prospect. Pead is currently projected to be a third- to fifth-round pick.

During Monday’s weigh ins, Pead was the smallest back at 5-foot-10, 193 pounds.

“I’m not really the biggest back but my fundamentals and technique have to be perfect. I have to be physical and still sharpen the strengths I have,” Pead sadid. “I have to have excellent body position as far as running through contacts and blocks.”



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