B.A.B. Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='texbengal' timestamp='1331683042' post='1105174'] Kendall Langford is a pretty salty player, and he's young. He's bigger than Fanene and Rucker, and he plays the run well. Not much of a pass rusher... he's OK. I'd rather Mincey but I think Langford is pretty good. [/quote] I'll take your word on it then, brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [size=6][b]Bengals and free agents enter market[/b][/size] By GEOFF HOBSON Updated: 4:15 p.m. As 4 p.m. rang and the NFL ushered in its new year Tuesday, the Bengals apparently talked to some of their free agents but as both sides expected no deals were reached. While monitoring their own free agents in the hopes of signing most of them back, the Bengals are expected to make contact with dozens of other free agents with the next step scheduling visits. The Bengals began Tuesday tying up the last bit of paperwork and tendered about $3 million in one-year contracts when they offered restricted free agents Dan Skuta and Clark Harris and exclusive rights free agent Jeromy Miles. All three players were key figures for a special teams unit that ranked 12th in the NFL among all statistical categories. Published reports have put the Bengals about $48 million under the $120.6 salary cap and the paperwork put some dent into it. Kicker Mike Nugent's $2.6 million franchise tag, $2.5 million in tenders to restricted free agents Dan Skuta and Clark Harris, and about a $3 million hit for exclusive rights free agents and fullback Chris Pressley's two-year deal account for about $8 million. The Bengals also have a rookie pool in the $7 million range and traditionally save about $4 million for injuries and potential contract extensions for a total of what looks to be about $19 million as they head into free agency to re-sign or replace 14 starters and regulars. Harris, the long snapper, has played in all 44 games since signing with Cincinnati early in the 2009 season and has not had an unplayable delivery in his 395 snaps. Miles, a safety who was the club's Pro Bowl special teams nominee last year, has played in every game since Game 11 of his rookie season of 2010 and last year led special teams with 15 tackles. Skuta, a linebacker, has played in every game since Game 14 of his rookie season in 2009 and last season had a career-high 34 tackles and tied for second in special teams tackles with 13. He led special teams with 16 tackles in 2010. "All three of these guys made real contributions to our reaching the playoffs last season,” said head coach Marvin Lewis in a news release. “We are glad to have Jeromy back in the fold, and it’s certainly in our plans to have Clark and Dan back as well.” Harris and Skuta can negotiate with other teams as restricted free agents, but the Bengals have the right to retain the players by matching any offer. It's believed the Bengals offered each the lowest RFA tender of $1.26 million. If an RFA does not sign with another team, he can remain with his original team by signing the one-year tender or by negotiating a longer contract. Harris entered the NFL as a seventh-round draft choice of the Packers in 2007 and if the Bengals declined the offer, the team signing Harris would be required to give its seventh-round choice in this draft. Compensation is not a factor for Skuta since he was a college free agent. The deadline for a restricted free agent to sign an offer sheet from another team is April 20. Any RFA who has not signed an offer sheet by that date will have his 2012 NFL rights revert exclusively to his 2011 club. As an exclusive-rights player, Miles also has the option of signing the tender or negotiating a long-term deal. [url="http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Bengals-and-free-agents-enter-market/18f22699-0b88-4b9b-b523-862e8520d63d"]http://www.bengals.c...23-862e8520d63d[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote][url="https://twitter.com/#!/ProFootballTalk"][b]ProFootballTalk[/b] [size=4][/size] [s]@[/s][b]ProFootballTalk[/b][/url] [color=#333333][font=HelveticaNeue,]League source says TE Kellen Davis will visit the Cowboys, Steelers, and [b]Bengals.[/b][/font][/color][/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Haven't heard of these guys... heard of Ross though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 We should change the title of this thread to "Bengals aint signing free agents" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1331683545' post='1105182'] [size=6][b]Bengals and free agents enter market[/b][/size] By GEOFF HOBSON Updated: 4:15 p.m. As 4 p.m. rang and the NFL ushered in its new year Tuesday, the Bengals apparently talked to some of their free agents but as both sides expected no deals were reached. While monitoring their own free agents in the hopes of signing most of them back, the Bengals are expected to make contact with dozens of other free agents with the next step scheduling visits. The Bengals began Tuesday tying up the last bit of paperwork and tendered about $3 million in one-year contracts when they offered restricted free agents Dan Skuta and Clark Harris and exclusive rights free agent Jeromy Miles. All three players were key figures for a special teams unit that ranked 12th in the NFL among all statistical categories. Published reports have put the Bengals about $48 million under the $120.6 salary cap and the paperwork put some dent into it. Kicker Mike Nugent's $2.6 million franchise tag, $2.5 million in tenders to restricted free agents Dan Skuta and Clark Harris, and about a $3 million hit for exclusive rights free agents and fullback Chris Pressley's two-year deal account for about $8 million. The Bengals also have a rookie pool in the $7 million range and traditionally save about $4 million for injuries and potential contract extensions for a total of what looks to be about $19 million as they head into free agency to re-sign or replace 14 starters and regulars. Harris, the long snapper, has played in all 44 games since signing with Cincinnati early in the 2009 season and has not had an unplayable delivery in his 395 snaps. Miles, a safety who was the club's Pro Bowl special teams nominee last year, has played in every game since Game 11 of his rookie season of 2010 and last year led special teams with 15 tackles. Skuta, a linebacker, has played in every game since Game 14 of his rookie season in 2009 and last season had a career-high 34 tackles and tied for second in special teams tackles with 13. He led special teams with 16 tackles in 2010. "All three of these guys made real contributions to our reaching the playoffs last season,” said head coach Marvin Lewis in a news release. “We are glad to have Jeromy back in the fold, and it’s certainly in our plans to have Clark and Dan back as well.” Harris and Skuta can negotiate with other teams as restricted free agents, but the Bengals have the right to retain the players by matching any offer. It's believed the Bengals offered each the lowest RFA tender of $1.26 million. If an RFA does not sign with another team, he can remain with his original team by signing the one-year tender or by negotiating a longer contract. Harris entered the NFL as a seventh-round draft choice of the Packers in 2007 and if the Bengals declined the offer, the team signing Harris would be required to give its seventh-round choice in this draft. Compensation is not a factor for Skuta since he was a college free agent. The deadline for a restricted free agent to sign an offer sheet from another team is April 20. Any RFA who has not signed an offer sheet by that date will have his 2012 NFL rights revert exclusively to his 2011 club. As an exclusive-rights player, Miles also has the option of signing the tender or negotiating a long-term deal. [url="http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Bengals-and-free-agents-enter-market/18f22699-0b88-4b9b-b523-862e8520d63d"]http://www.bengals.c...23-862e8520d63d[/url] [/quote] [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1331683545' post='1105182'] [size=6][b]Bengals and free agents enter market[/b][/size] By GEOFF HOBSON Updated: 4:15 p.m. As 4 p.m. rang and the NFL ushered in its new year Tuesday, the Bengals apparently talked to some of their free agents but as both sides expected no deals were reached. While monitoring their own free agents in the hopes of signing most of them back, the Bengals are expected to make contact with dozens of other free agents with the next step scheduling visits. The Bengals began Tuesday tying up the last bit of paperwork and tendered about $3 million in one-year contracts when they offered restricted free agents Dan Skuta and Clark Harris and exclusive rights free agent Jeromy Miles. All three players were key figures for a special teams unit that ranked 12th in the NFL among all statistical categories. Published reports have put the Bengals about $48 million under the $120.6 salary cap and the paperwork put some dent into it. Kicker Mike Nugent's $2.6 million franchise tag, $2.5 million in tenders to restricted free agents Dan Skuta and Clark Harris, and about a $3 million hit for exclusive rights free agents and fullback Chris Pressley's two-year deal account for about $8 million. The Bengals also have a rookie pool in the $7 million range and traditionally save about $4 million for injuries and potential contract extensions for a total of what looks to be about $19 million as they head into free agency to re-sign or replace 14 starters and regulars. Harris, the long snapper, has played in all 44 games since signing with Cincinnati early in the 2009 season and has not had an unplayable delivery in his 395 snaps. Miles, a safety who was the club's Pro Bowl special teams nominee last year, has played in every game since Game 11 of his rookie season of 2010 and last year led special teams with 15 tackles. Skuta, a linebacker, has played in every game since Game 14 of his rookie season in 2009 and last season had a career-high 34 tackles and tied for second in special teams tackles with 13. He led special teams with 16 tackles in 2010. "All three of these guys made real contributions to our reaching the playoffs last season,” said head coach Marvin Lewis in a news release. “We are glad to have Jeromy back in the fold, and it’s certainly in our plans to have Clark and Dan back as well.” Harris and Skuta can negotiate with other teams as restricted free agents, but the Bengals have the right to retain the players by matching any offer. It's believed the Bengals offered each the lowest RFA tender of $1.26 million. If an RFA does not sign with another team, he can remain with his original team by signing the one-year tender or by negotiating a longer contract. Harris entered the NFL as a seventh-round draft choice of the Packers in 2007 and if the Bengals declined the offer, the team signing Harris would be required to give its seventh-round choice in this draft. Compensation is not a factor for Skuta since he was a college free agent. The deadline for a restricted free agent to sign an offer sheet from another team is April 20. Any RFA who has not signed an offer sheet by that date will have his 2012 NFL rights revert exclusively to his 2011 club. As an exclusive-rights player, Miles also has the option of signing the tender or negotiating a long-term deal. [url="http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Bengals-and-free-agents-enter-market/18f22699-0b88-4b9b-b523-862e8520d63d"]http://www.bengals.c...23-862e8520d63d[/url] [/quote] Won't be long before we get the obligatory Hobo article about how they'd really like to sign Jake Scott, but they would probably have to release a couple of guys to create cap space...blah, blah, blah, blah-blah. We heard the same thing last year and come to find out there was $15M in unused cap space despite resigining our guys, signing draft picks, injury settlements, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 What about the money we can rollover from last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='MichaelWeston' timestamp='1331686841' post='1105241'] What about the money we can rollover from last year? [/quote] what about it? (not sure what you're asking). They rolled forward $15 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincity Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Question... How many 1st rd picks the year Mario Williams and Reggie Bush was drafted are still with the team that drafted them? (null) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorclaws Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='snarkster' timestamp='1331684858' post='1105211'] Won't be long before we get the obligatory Hobo article about how they'd really like to sign Jake Scott, but they would probably have to release a couple of guys to create cap space...blah, blah, blah, blah-blah. We heard the same thing last year and come to find out there was $15M in unused cap space despite resigining our guys, signing draft picks, injury settlements, etc. [/quote] that cap space was from Carson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1331687130' post='1105251'] what about it? (not sure what you're asking). They rolled forward $15 million. [/quote] The article where Hobson tries to explain why we once again can't be major players in FA seems to ignore that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='Le Tigre' timestamp='1331679059' post='1105093'] OK...[b]the very definition of 2nd tier[/b]. Not much, but a little. [/quote] [quote name='Le Tigre' timestamp='1331679059' post='1105093'] OK..[b]the very definition of 2nd tier.[/b] Not much, but a little. [/quote] Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CougarQuest Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='cincity' timestamp='1331687741' post='1105267'] Question... How many 1st rd picks the year Mario Williams and Reggie Bush was drafted are still with the team that drafted them? (null) [/quote] Does "(null)" mean it's no longer a question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincity Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 no... it shows up when I post from my iPhone The Answer is 11.. I guess now, it's not a question. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Just checked out the Bengals roster on [url="http://www.bengals.com/team/roster.html"]Bengals.com[/url] to see how they reworked it now that FA started. Obviously an error but Frostee is listed on the Active roster and not the unrestricted free agent section. Hmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]The Bengals' top options to pair with [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13983/aj-green"]A.J. Green[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] include Manningham, [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10519/laurent-robinson"]Laurent Robinson[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3](scheduled to visit Jacksonville), [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11315/early-doucet"]Early Doucet[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3], [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/3593/deion-branch"]Deion Branch[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] and [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2139/plaxico-burress"]Plaxico Burress[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3]. Cincinnati is looking for a more dependable No. 2 receiver than [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11280/jerome-simpson"]Jerome Simpson[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] and [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11331/andre-caldwell"]Andre Caldwell[/url][color=#333333][font=verdana, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3], both of whom are free agents. [/size][/font][/color][/quote] [url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43831/afc-north-and-remaining-free-agent-wrs"]http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43831/afc-north-and-remaining-free-agent-wrs[/url] not sure if that is his list or what he's heard from team sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1331736828' post='1105547'] [url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43831/afc-north-and-remaining-free-agent-wrs"]http://espn.go.com/b...-free-agent-wrs[/url] not sure if that is his list or what he's heard from team sources. [/quote] I would be ok with either Manningham, Robinson, or Doucet. I think Doucet is the real value here. He's had time to watch the best wr in the game day in and day out for a few years and when he's gotten his opportunity to play he's done well. You would have liked to see him develop into a #2 at Arizona but they have struggled with their offense since Warner retired a few years ago so it's understandable why a young wr might not develop with so many questions at the qb position. Robinson has been a journeyman who bounced around before finally getting an opportunity to play in Dallas, he showed he can make big plays. The only question about him is injury concerns, but I wouldn't mind adding him to the roster either. I think Manningham would be the ideal fit, but after that SuperBowl game he's going to want big money. Either way I hope we get one of the three as I think the wr corp needs atleast one vet to add some experience to the youth already on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullichicken25 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 nobody else thinks Eddie royal could be nice fit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='mullichicken25' timestamp='1331743411' post='1105625'] nobody else thinks Eddie royal could be nice fit? [/quote] He would but I though someone else got him did I miss that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN Bengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='Jamie_B' timestamp='1331743476' post='1105627'] He would but I though someone else got him did I miss that? [/quote] Washington wanted him but he hasn't signed yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='mullichicken25' timestamp='1331743411' post='1105625'] nobody else thinks Eddie royal could be nice fit? [/quote] I think he'd be a good fit in the WCO, but don't know if he's a longterm #2. Was a #2 in denver, but to mixed results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I'd be ok with re-signing Simpson and Caldwell. We should be able to get Jerome cheap and he played fairly well last year. We would need coverage for any suspension but Caldwell or Cotcherry would be ok for 4 weeks or so. Royal is overrated, Robinson would be a better signing. We should have made an offer to Reggie Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueridge Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Read today's annual Hobson artticle in which he grievously minimizes the Bengals' cap space entering free agency. Every other source puts the cap space at almost $50 million, while Hobsonmath concludes that the Bengals have only $19 million to spend on UFAs. I simply don't believe Hobson anymore. He rakes $30 million off the top and this team hasn't resigned a single one of its own UFAs. With this said, the Bengals' reported interest in Kendall Langford, Aaron Ross, and Kellen Davis is good news. They are all mid-tier FAs at positions of need. No hints about Brandon Carr, and that disappoints. Finally, since FA is beginnings, I fully expect this board to go nuts with bitter caterwauling about MB if there are no signings by Tuesday at 5 PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='blueridge' timestamp='1331745621' post='1105659'] Read today's annual Hobson artticle in which he grievously minimizes the Bengals' cap space entering free agency. Every other source puts the cap space at almost $50 million, while Hobsonmath concludes that the Bengals have only $19 million to spend on UFAs. I simply don't believe Hobson anymore. He rakes $30 million off the top and this team hasn't resigned a single one of its own UFAs. With this said, the Bengals' reported interest in Kendall Langford, Aaron Ross, and Kellen Davis is good news. They are all mid-tier FAs at positions of need. No hints about Brandon Carr, and that disappoints. Finally, since FA is beginnings, I fully expect this board to go nuts with bitter caterwauling about MB if there are no signings by Tuesday at 5 PM. [/quote] I expect bitter caterwauling about MB even if we do sign someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USN Bengal Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 [quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1331745721' post='1105661'] I expect bitter caterwauling about MB even if we do sign someone. [/quote] Don't forget the wailing and gnashing of teeth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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