Jason 4,009 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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membengal 1,645 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 God this would be good news. Long overdue if they are doing it, but no less welcome, at least by me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Griever 305 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Ha, just came here to post this link in a new thread myself. Would be way overdue: https://www.cincyjungle.com/2021/2/10/22277301/bengals-possible-ring-of-honor-leaked-ken-anderson-anthony-munoz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saphead 1,175 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 OMG. Joe Burrow probably got this done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 602 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Ring of Honor? This team is always on the cutting edge... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BengalFanInTO 719 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 So, who would you put in a Bengals Ring of Honor? I believe the Cowboys have a total of 21 people in theirs. Do you start with a full ring? I don't think so but could be wrong. I'd suggest Munoz is a guarantee but, who after that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky151 579 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 Apparently there is a Bengals Hall of Fame. Start there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 798 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, BengalFanInTO said: So, who would you put in a Bengals Ring of Honor? I believe the Cowboys have a total of 21 people in theirs. Do you start with a full ring? I don't think so but could be wrong. I'd suggest Munoz is a guarantee but, who after that? Anderson, Munoz, Esiason, Krumrie, Johnson, Bob, Anderson, Willie., Curtis Maybe: Williams, R., Dillon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,892 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 10 other NFL stadiums have one so the county had to buy one for PBS? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmishBengalFan 1,165 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 A million years ago, someone... (well, okay, it was me)... someone started a thread regarding which players should be in a hypothetical Ring of Honor. It was based on math (duh, if anyone knows me that shouldn't be a surprise) and it was based on a formula that included # of seasons as a Bengal and the # of Pro-Bowl selections during that time.... or for coaches is was seasons and playoff appearances. Here's the Pro-Bowl list: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin/all-pros.htm The list is pretty long so I'll cut it off at 30. I've put those who should automatically be in MY Ring at the top and list why: LOCKS (5): Paul Brown - Founder Anthony Munoz - HOF Ken Anderson - MVP Boomer Esiason - MVP Ken Riley - HOF Snub The Rest (6-30) with their scores 32.6 Geno Atkins (11 Seasons / 8 Pro Bowls) 27.9 AJ Green (9/7) 26.9 *Marvin Lewis (16 Seasons / 7 Playoff Appearances) 26.2 Chad Johnson (10/6) 24.2 Lemar Parish (8/6) 22.8 Willie Anderson (12/4) 22.8 Isaac Curtis (12/4) 20.8 Bob Trumpy (10/4) 19.1 Andrew Whitworth (11/3) 19.1 Max Montoya (11/3) 19.1 Rodney Holman (11/3) 18.8 James Brooks (8/4) 17.4 Tim Krumrie (12/2) 17.1 Andy Dalton (9/3) 16.4 Carlos Dunlap (11/2) 16.1 Cris Collinsworth (8/3) 15.1 David Fulcher (7/3) 15.1 Corey Dillon (7/3) 14.7 Clark Harris (12/1) 14.7 Jim LeClair (12/1) 14.7 Kevin Huber (12/1) 14.1 Tommy Cassanova (6/3) 13.4 Carl Pickens (8/2) 12.7 Pat McInally (10/1) 12.4 Carson Palmer (7/2) Not saying this is the order they should go in - not by any means. I'm merely providing a metric to rank them relative to one another. Frankly, my next five after the locks would be Geno Atkins, Chad Johnson, Willie Anderson, Isaac Curis and Sam Wyche.... Montoya, Collinsworth and Krumrie would be next up. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 602 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, BengalFanInTO said: So, who would you put in a Bengals Ring of Honor? I believe the Cowboys have a total of 21 people in theirs. Do you start with a full ring? I don't think so but could be wrong. I'd suggest Munoz is a guarantee but, who after that? You don't want to start with a full ring - you need to create an annual event around it. I don't think PB should be in it, the stadium is already named after him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 4,009 Posted February 11 Author Report Share Posted February 11 My initial ring class would be: Munoz, and PB, obviously, the 2 Kens, Bob Johnson ( only number retired)and Krumrie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmishBengalFan 1,165 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 We should also retire a few jersey numbers while we're at it. 78 13 14 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 798 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: Anderson, Munoz, Esiason, Krumrie, Johnson, Bob, Anderson, Willie., Curtis Maybe: Williams, R., Dillon Can’t believe I left off Ken Riley! Woof. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 798 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, AmishBengalFan said: We should also retire a few jersey numbers while we're at it. 78 13 14 Ehh.. pass. Let the numbers stay. I think it’s great to see guys resurrect classic Bengal numbers. Those three are big shoes to fill though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmishBengalFan 1,165 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 If we ignore ProBowl selections (which leans toward being a popularity contest - one that Ken Riley never won because he wasn't well liked - and go with All Pro selections instead, the player list gets juggled quite a bit: 37.3 Anthony Munoz (13/9) 20.1 Willie Anderson (12/3) 18.7 Ken Anderson (16/1) 17.7 Ken Riley (15/1) 16.4 Geno Atkins (11/2) 15.4 Chad Johnson (10/2) 14.7 Tim Krumrie (12/1) 13.7 Andrew Whitworth (11/1) 12.7 Bob Trumpy, Boomer Esiason, Pat McInally, Louis Breeden (all 10/1) Nobody else earned All Pro. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 602 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 It should depend on how the team defines 'Honor' - could be a great teammate and community leader and less so about Pro Bowls. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmishBengalFan 1,165 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 2 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: It should depend on how the team defines 'Honor' - could be a great teammate and community leader and less so about Pro Bowls. Agreed. But as my college degree ends in ".... of Science" and I can't quantify touchy-feely stuff like "great teammate" and "community leader"... I am using math with quantifiable things. My lists are intended to merely be a starting point for discussion and certainly should not the metric by which everyone should be considered against each other. If I'm being misinterpreted as suggesting that - my bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
saphead 1,175 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 You don't need a patch on your arm or your name on a ring to have honor. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 3,162 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 No Fat Randy No Vote Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 602 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 3 hours ago, AmishBengalFan said: Agreed. But as my college degree ends in ".... of Science" and I can't quantify touchy-feely stuff like "great teammate" and "community leader"... I am using math with quantifiable things. My lists are intended to merely be a starting point for discussion and certainly should not the metric by which everyone should be considered against each other. If I'm being misinterpreted as suggesting that - my bad. Your list(s) were great, I was using our own CFL team's ring of honor as an example - we had some long term players that perhaps the league never properly recognized but the fans sure did. We also have 4 statues in front of the 4 main stadium entrances of the elite of our ring of honor - two of them are Bud Grant and Milt Stegall (who many here may remember) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
membengal 1,645 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 5 hours ago, AmishBengalFan said: If we ignore ProBowl selections (which leans toward being a popularity contest - one that Ken Riley never won because he wasn't well liked - and go with All Pro selections instead, the player list gets juggled quite a bit: 37.3 Anthony Munoz (13/9) 20.1 Willie Anderson (12/3) 18.7 Ken Anderson (16/1) 17.7 Ken Riley (15/1) 16.4 Geno Atkins (11/2) 15.4 Chad Johnson (10/2) 14.7 Tim Krumrie (12/1) 13.7 Andrew Whitworth (11/1) 12.7 Bob Trumpy, Boomer Esiason, Pat McInally, Louis Breeden (all 10/1) Nobody else earned All Pro. fwiw, I would hate to restrict qualifications to include only All-Pro selections, as this team's players were forever overlooked for those just like they have been for HoF. I would want James Brooks in a Ring of Honor, for instance, still think he is the best all around back in team history. But that would exclude him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spotto 32 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Corey Dillon not getting much love here. For me, in my era he would have to be close to getting on the new ring of honour. Maybe the second intake? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AmishBengalFan 1,165 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, membengal said: fwiw, I would hate to restrict qualifications to include only All-Pro selections. Me too. My list was never intended to exclude anyone. Just to provide a debatable metric for comparison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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