The Open For Business Draft Thread 2025 Edition

[Le Tigre]

Discuss 

[MichaelWeston]

Coaching... The talent it there. It's on coaching. Anarumo needs to go. 

[Griever]

It's never too early lol

[Bleeds Orange]

The frustrating thing will be the dead cat bounce that knocks them out of the top ten picks.

[MichaelWeston]

Do you trade Tee Higgins? 

[|High School Harry|]

9 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Coaching... The talent it there. It's on coaching. Anarumo needs to go. 

A respectful and rare disagreement.

I do not think the talent is there.

ie the center of our defensive line.  Carter and Tofu would have difficulty with a decent college offense,

Throw in Old Mother Hubbard and the once promising Joseph Ossai is

out of here when his contract expires this season.

Our linebackers are erratic and when one veteran is so stupid as to line up with

his head so far across the line of scrimmage that he can tell what brand of chewing gum 

the opposing quarterback is chewing it is inexcusable.

The Electric Kool Aid Dax Hill Acid Test is over and he is an epic suck.

Cam Taylor-Shitt needs to STFU or Tim Krumrie ought to come out of retirement long enough to 

put his fist down Taylor-Swift's pie hole.

When asked what position he played, Geno Stone replied "Pull my finger".

[New Jersey Bengal]

Why was stone so good in Baltimore and not here answer is Simone scheme and overall talent

[|High School Harry|]

[MichaelWeston]

27 minutes ago, High School Harry said:

A respectful and rare disagreement.

I do not think the talent is there.

ie the center of our defensive line.  Carter and Tofu would have difficulty with a decent college offense,

Throw in Old Mother Hubbard and the once promising Joseph Ossai is

out of here when his contract expires this season.

Our linebackers are erratic and when one veteran is so stupid as to line up with

his head so far across the line of scrimmage that he can tell what brand of chewing gum 

the opposing quarterback is chewing it is inexcusable.

The Electric Kool Aid Dax Hill Acid Test is over and he is an epic suck.

Cam Taylor-Shitt needs to STFU or Tim Krumrie ought to come out of retirement long enough to 

put his fist down Taylor-Swift's pie hole.

When asked what position he played, Geno Stone replied "Pull my finger".

The same players looked fine against the Chiefs

[|High School Harry|]

Just now, MichaelWeston said:

The same players looked fine against the Chiefs

And the outcome was the same as against New England and New England Act Two.

We've heard chemistry, communication, gelling yada but sub par and erratic play from

sub par players ain't getting it done.

[New Jersey Bengal]

They may have been emotionally drained from the chiefs especially after losing when they should have won

[I_C_Deadpeople]

5 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

They may have been emotionally drained from the chiefs especially after losing when they should have won

This seems logical. We jnow we are very injured on the DL but the play of the defense overall was just Division II level. 

 

Question now is - will they bounce back or just tap out. 

[BBR]

1.) You can't trade Tee yet.  Maybe at the deadline if this truly spirals down the shitter and it's a completely lost season.

2.) Regarding the draft itself

--- Round 1: Sell your soul if necessary for Deone Walker DT Kentucky 6'5" 348lbs

--- Round 2: Hope and pray for a good DE to somehow slide, if not then the best CB or Safety

[MichaelWeston]

Offensive Look

 

QB	Burrow 29	Browning 26	Woodside
RB	Moss 26	Brown 27	Williams 25	Milton
WR	Chase 26		Burgess
WR	Iosivas 27	Irwin 25	Pryor
WR	Burton 28	Jones 27
TE	Gesicki 25	Sample 27	All 28	McClachlan 28	Grandy
LT	Brown 27
LG	Volson 26	Kirkland 25	Manning
C	Karras 26	Lee 28	Hill
RG	Cappa 26	Ford 25
RT	Mims 29		Cochran

 

Free Agents

 

Evans 25

Higgins 25

Hudson 25

Brown 25

Smith 25

 

I assume they will want Gesicki back and will pay up a little bit. Irwin, Williams and Ford all back on minimum deals. 

Questions on offense will be what happens at WR  Much of that could be answered this season with the play of Burton and Yoshi. 

Gesicki will be 29 next week and has made 25M over his career. He fits Burrow perfectly. Will be interesting to see if he leaves for more money or if they go up to about 5-6M for a year or 2. 

If the season keeps going this way they need to trade Higgins. 

I don't expect Trent Brown back

They will be looking to draft an OL and WR

I assume all the coaches are back but it's possible WR coach moves on to an OC role. 

[Jamie_B]

Short of guard the talent on offense is there.

 

Short of Trey Hendrickson, the talent on defense isn't. And I'm not even down on Wilson and Pratt they both are in impossible positions for everyone else around them being bad or a jag.

 

Cam Toast Britt should just put his head down shut up and work because he's nothing more than a CB2 at this point.

 

I love Hubbard but he's washed, Hill is a bust, Hilton should come around but he was bad at the start of last season too. Both safeties are average.

 

Talking about the draft when we do not draft well on defense at all is not reassuring and not something to look forward to.

[New Jersey Bengal]

They haven't drsfted great on defense but I do though Pratt and Wilson are fine good picks and let's let this year of Jenkins snd Jackson play out and fig newton

[texbengal]

Lou isn't the problem. In NE, they had guys in the right spots and couldn't tackle worth an isht. KC game they played pretty well, especially vs. the pass. Just didn't make the play(s) when it counted... including the offense not punching it in in the red zone enough. 

 

Last night, yeah  - they laid an egg but on both long passes, just bad technique on the first one and Hill bit just for a second on the double move and it was over. Tremendous pass and catch... it happens. Safeties didn't play well either. 

Their lack of talent up front got exposed. Outside of Tre, they have nobody, currently. Sam isn't good, Ossai stunk, LBs didn't do enough.. and the depth guys inside weren't good, save for Jenkins who didn't look bad for a one-handed DT playing in his first NFL game. 

If there's one common theme under Lou's tenure, it's not having "closers" that make plays when it counts. Too many times, they can't get off the field on 3rd down (or 4th down) and last night, 3rd down was egregiously bad, because almost all of them were less than 5 yards. Just atrocious performance... reminded me of the Houston game last year when they couldn't make a stop, save for the pick 6 by CTB. 

[UncleEarl]

1 minute ago, texbengal said:

Lou isn't the problem. In NE, they had guys in the right spots and couldn't tackle worth an isht. KC game they played pretty well, especially vs. the pass. Just didn't make the play(s) when it counted... including the offense not punching it in in the red zone enough. 

 

Last night, yeah  - they laid an egg but on both long passes, just bad technique on the first one and Hill bit just for a second on the double move and it was over. Tremendous pass and catch... it happens. Safeties didn't play well either. 

Their lack of talent up front got exposed. Outside of Tre, they have nobody, currently. Sam isn't good, Ossai stunk, LBs didn't do enough.. and the depth guys inside weren't good, save for Jenkins who didn't look bad for a one-handed DT playing in his first NFL game. 

If there's one common theme under Lou's tenure, it's not having "closers" that make plays when it counts. Too many times, they can't get off the field on 3rd down (or 4th down) and last night, 3rd down was egregiously bad, because almost all of them were less than 5 yards. Just atrocious performance... reminded me of the Houston game last year when they couldn't make a stop, save for the pick 6 by CTB. 

 

Watching the rookie shred the zone yesterday made me ill.  First series the Commanders ran right at Hubbard.  His specialty is supposed to be stopping the run and one guy eliminated him almost the entire night.  The second week in a row a tackle eligible play scored a touchdown against the Bengals.   There are scheme issues and personnel issues.  The safety changes have done zilch to help.  Old guy may know what to do, but can't do it anymore. 

[MichaelWeston]

Time for the Defense

 

LE	Murphy 27	Johnson 28	Henry
LT	Jenkins 28	Tufele 25	Jackson 28	Rogers
RT	Rankins 26		Carter 26	Davis
RE	Hendrickson 26	Hubbard 26	Thomas
WLB	Pratt 26	Njongmeta 27
MLB	Wilson 28	Heyward
S	Battle 27	Anthony 28	Jules
S	Stone 26	Anderson 26
CB	Taylor-Britt 26	Newton 28	Brooks
CB	Hill 27	Ivey 27	Robinson 28
NB	Turner 27	Davis

 

 

Free Agents

Hill 25

Sample 25

Guy 25

Ossai 25

Davis-Gaither 25

Bachie 25

Bell 25

Hilton 25

 

Tufele back on a league minimum. Probably Bachie as well. I could see Bell righting things and being back. 

-At LB you will have guys stepping into depth roles. You want Davis Gaither back but I wouldn't count on that. He should be starting somewhere. 

-Safety I have no idea what we have. None

-CB I think we are good here outside of run support. CTB gave up a couple plays but he's a stud. Hill should be solid and Turner or Newton are probably the future in the slot if Hill is not. 

-DE needs more bodies. Will have to see what Murphy and Johnson brings as the year progresses. I really liked both in TC and PS

-DT is as big of a question mark as they come. 

[BBR]

3 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

I don't expect Trent Brown back

 

Honestly, that might have been the last NFL game for Trent Brown, at least as a starter.

He's 6'8", 380 lbs. at age 31 and going through a knee operation for a torn patellar tendon.  That's not a good situation for him or his career going forward and there were already concerns about his durability.

[claptonrocks]

15 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Coaching... The talent it there. It's on coaching. Anarumo needs to go. 

The talent is there on the dline?

Ok

[claptonrocks]

5 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

Why was stone so good in Baltimore and not here answer is Simone scheme and overall talent

He has to cover too long as all the Dbacks do..

No pass rush .

[New Jersey Bengal]

2 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

He has to cover too long as all the snacks do..

No pass rush .

Yes agree you are 100% correct

[claptonrocks]

4 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said:

They may have been emotionally drained from the chiefs especially after losing when they should have won

Excuses don't cut it.

Emotionally drained?

 

[claptonrocks]

2 hours ago, MichaelWeston said:

Time for the Defense

 

LE	Murphy 27	Johnson 28	Henry
LT	Jenkins 28	Tufele 25	Jackson 28	Rogers
RT	Rankins 26		Carter 26	Davis
RE	Hendrickson 26	Hubbard 26	Thomas
WLB	Pratt 26	Njongmeta 27
MLB	Wilson 28	Heyward
S	Battle 27	Anthony 28	Jules
S	Stone 26	Anderson 26
CB	Taylor-Britt 26	Newton 28	Brooks
CB	Hill 27	Ivey 27	Robinson 28
NB	Turner 27	Davis

 

 

Free Agents

Hill 25

Sample 25

Guy 25

Ossai 25

Davis-Gaither 25

Bachie 25

Bell 25

Hilton 25

 

Tufele back on a league minimum. Probably Bachie as well. I could see Bell righting things and being back. 

-At LB you will have guys stepping into depth roles. You want Davis Gaither back but I wouldn't count on that. He should be starting somewhere. 

-Safety I have no idea what we have. None

-CB I think we are good here outside of run support. CTB gave up a couple plays but he's a stud. Hill should be solid and Turner or Newton are probably the future in the slot if Hill is not. 

-DE needs more bodies. Will have to see what Murphy and Johnson brings as the year progresses. I really liked both in TC and PS

-DT is as big of a question mark as they come. 

I wouldn't re-sign any of the free agents aside from Sample at a team friendly price.

Motley crew.