October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767622 12 hours ago, Jamie_B said: The part that is spot on for me is we haven't drafted or brought in guys to replace the guys that left, that are playing at the same or even close to the same level as the guys we lost. I think we draft well on O I think we are horrible at drafting D While I can agree to that at some point you have to draft quality olinemen. Mims is a great start but then what? Jury is out on the young Dlinenan in Murphy Jenkins and Jackson but there's hope there..next year This looks like a roller coaster year with some high scoring wins but too many games where offended will run at will against them.. There's no answer right now on improving it.. Lastly losing DJ Reader has been a stab in the back for the organization.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767623 4 hours ago, Whodeyman said: If season is over they should be looking to trade tee Higgins and hendrickson for draft picks. Start to play Burton more and start throwing more to Eric all. I would re-sign Tee to compliment JB and Chase. Not sure about Trey as he's the Only proven rusher we have.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767624 1 minute ago, claptonrocks said: While I can agree to that at some point you have to draft quality olinemen. Mims is a great start but then what? Jury is out on the young Dlinenan in Murphy Jenkins and Jackson but there's hope there..next year This looks like a roller coaster year with some high scoring wins but too many games where offended will run at will against them.. There's no answer right now on improving it.. Lastly losing DJ Reader has been a stab in the back for the organization. This is why I have a problem with the way this organization uses coaches to help draft. It's doesnt help create a consistent winner. What you end up with is when we have coaches that are good at identifying talent in one area but coaches that suck at it in other areas you end up all over the place. As an example we used to be really good at drafting Oline and even DT's. Finding Whitworth in the 2nd round and even Pecko and Atkins in the 4th was a result of having coaches under Marvin's system that were good at finding talent. This set of coaches struggle at both identifying talent at both positions. Mims so far has been awesome so maybe there is at least some hope there, but after how long did it take for us to find him? That's why I think the front office needs to really consider becoming a modern front office and hiring guys in the front office to do this work. That doesnt mean we will succeed at that right away, but if we can have a consistent front office would be huge. Think about how Baltimore went from Ozzie Newsome to Eric DeCosta and havent lost a step in terms of finding talent. We need to really consider doing the same. Sure coaches will still contribute to that, but the point has been made on this board before and I think it's pretty valid. Allowing coaches to continue to coach vs trying to help with finding talent would go far in helping everyone. Especially if we are lucky enough to keep playing in Jan/Feb when draft scouting begins.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767625 By the way. The next 4 opponents are Giants Browns Eagles Raiders I get the defense isnt very good, but those 4 teams are not very good either. We could very well be talking about a 5-4 team by the time we go into Baltimore.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767626 17 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Battle didn't exactly look good out there yesterday either. I'm curious what the issue Lou was talking about him having during the early part of the season was? Chicken or the Egg. Does pressure up front help the CBs cover more effectively than trying to hang with their opponents for 4 seconds? Does having lockdown corners help the Dline look adequate? Seems obvious that the former is killing this unit.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767628 They do have some young DB coaches but I think it's much more on the players. It's not a good tackling team - at all - and yeah, the DL (other than Trey) isn't good. While I do believe that Hill is solid, it's as a rotation guy and not with a high snap count. I could say the same for Hubbard, and I actually think he was OK yesterday. He's improving, but he's average at this point, on a good day. Rankins - who knows. Jackson has talent... we'll see if it materializes. Ossai has been a bust so far this year and they totally whiffed on Zach Carter... who was better this year, but the fact that they cut him and didn't even re-sign him to the PS tells you how bad that is. Murphy - not sure what he's got... he may be a good player, but I don't see massive upside for him. Losing Sample hurt - just a solid, dependable depth player, but again, he's not gonna give you much on the pass rush, especially. LBs are solid, not great... and I actually like the CB room athletically, but they just aren't consistent in coverage. I'm guessing Hill is out for an extended period, if not the season... which sucks because he was really starting to show some positive things. CTB, in particular, is getting beaten at the line way too much... he jumps at releases and gets out-leveraged too much, and Turner can provide sticky coverage but he doesn't find the ball. The safeties, as others have said, are un-athletic and at least in Stone's case, seemingly unaware, too. Battle, I think, has some smarts but he's not athletic either. I'd actually like to see what Anderson could give you... he's big, fast, and athletic, and he'll hit you. He's been in the program for 3 years now, and while he's battled injuries, he's got athletic traits. Bottom line, I still could see this team in the playoff hunt at year's end, with this offense and with JB playing at a high level, but the defense has to step up, big-time. I don't see a ton of encouraging signs that that'll happen. Because of that, the offense has little margin for error... and we saw that yesterday that when the offense turns it over, or just doesn't move the ball in an important series, it's hard to see the defense making the requisite stop(s) to win a game. Next week will be telling. The best pass rushing DL they've faced up to this point, but they can be had in the pass game, IMO. They have some good WRs and a running game with some good runners in Singletary (who gashed them in the past) and Tracy.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767629 9 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Chicken or the Egg. Does pressure up front help the CBs cover more effectively than trying to hang with their opponents for 4 seconds? Does having lockdown corners help the Dline look adequate? Seems obvious that the former is killing this unit. Yeah I think once the draft rolls around if tell me we are taking the top CB or DE on their board that is available, I'm on board with that. I think either unit can benefit from having a premier talent at those positions. I think with Henrickson already there, a top end CB might make more of an immediate impact, but getting Trey another DE to give him rest would help too. I don't think its a case of you have to focus on just one.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767630 43 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Battle didn't exactly look good out there yesterday either. I'm curious what the issue Lou was talking about him having during the early part of the season was? The new locker room is a distraction. Told to me by a friend.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767632 2 minutes ago, High School Harry said: The new locker room is a distraction. Told to me by a friend. Interesting. I know they took the Ping Pong table out, but I'm curious about what makes the new LR a problem.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767638 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: By the way. The next 4 opponents are Giants Browns Eagles Raiders I get the defense isnt very good, but those 4 teams are not very good either. We could very well be talking about a 5-4 team by the time we go into Baltimore. I'll be an optimist and agree totally. It could very well happen...
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767641 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: By the way. The next 4 opponents are Giants Browns Eagles Raiders I get the defense isnt very good, but those 4 teams are not very good either. We could very well be talking about a 5-4 team by the time we go into Baltimore. I noticed that last night and had hope for a fleeting moment. Then I realized the four after that are @BAL, @LAC, PIT, and @DAL.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767643 2 minutes ago, Bleeds Orange said: I noticed that last night and had hope for a fleeting moment. Then I realized the four after that are @BAL, @LAC, PIT, and @DAL. Yeah lots will come down to Pitt and Dallas games. Neither of them impressed me last night. Sadly I think we're going to get dog walked in Baltimore. Not an easy place to play.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767644 The Bengals are 1-4 and their only win is over the worst team in the league...and it wasn't a walkover. This is a bad team until proven otherwise. I hope they win the next four, but I am doubtful. They are in loser mode right now where they find a different way to lose most every game. It's hard to overcome that aura without some major shakeup.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767645 1 hour ago, Jamie_B said: Interesting. I know they took the Ping Pong table out, but I'm curious about what makes the new LR a problem. Small towels?..😎
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767649 15 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: The Bengals are 1-4 and their only win is over the worst team in the league...and it wasn't a walkover. This is a bad team until proven otherwise. I hope they win the next four, but I am doubtful. They are in loser mode right now where they find a different way to lose most every game. It's hard to overcome that aura without some major shakeup. While true they have also kept toe to toe with two of the better teams in the league in KC and Bal. And Wash has proven to be better than we all thought. The only team I'm embarrassed that we lost to was NE. I get that were all rightfully doubtful, but I'm not totally out yet. Right now I'm sold that we have no chance to win this division unless Lamar gets hurt again. But I'm on the fence about a wild card.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767650 About those losses... Not to be That Guy but... Seems like the losses have been close and flukey... Money Mac missing and not the poor kid holding seems to be the problem (New England), strange calls? Lost by a point to Kansas City and the refs defending the new shield (should have had that one) Washington... not prepared and etc. We should be at least 2-2 if not for the Kansas City Screw Job. The proverbial "we're not as bad as our record shows". Maybe the light at the end of the tunnel isn't really an oncoming Cordell Volson repaired freight train. Worms turn, Karma comes through and luck changes. We did get some guys back on D and have learned some of our weaknesses (Bell and Stone were free agents for a reason) Some of the problems are fixable (new place holder) And the Joe Burrow offense is a freakin' machine. If Kansas City and Baltimore are the Gold Standards of the NFL (gag) we have shown that we are their equals without referee interference and beating ourselves. Besides, maybe we will be the team taken lightly and overlooked not. Big mistake. In Joe I Trust. Pay Ja'Marr. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::; Wrote this before reading the post about losing Dax for the season. Nuts!
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767655 3 hours ago, Jamie_B said: By the way. The next 4 opponents are Giants Browns Eagles Raiders I get the defense isnt very good, but those 4 teams are not very good either. Ok sure, but get this: neither are the Bengals. Not trying to be funny or a doomer here but this team is 1-4. 3 of those 4 teams have better records. Kinda over the "we should be 5-0 if only" excuses. This team is bad. We can blame it all on the defense but we, and more importantly they, need to understand that. None of those 4 teams give a shit about a Super Bowl 2.5 years ago. They see a bad team on their schedule that keeps finding a way to lose. That's who they are right now. Instead they keep talking like they're a SB contender and it's fucking delusional.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767657 The F.O. is a joke from the way it's run and the way it's structured! Anyone that still believes that the younger family members are now running the team and making decisions or believe that things will get better when the younger ones take over are delusional! Tobin is the Bengals version of Mel Kiper. Problem there is even Mel Kiper has a bigger scouting department! Zac Taylor should be a QB coach somewhere or at best a middle of the road OC. He was "in the right place at the right time," when the Bengals hired him, (A young offensive minded coach from the Sean McVay coaching tree). Without Burrow Taylor isn't shit! Again, that goes back to the F.O. following trends instead of setting trends. When Marvin Lewis was hired, the hot trend was making top defensive coordinators head coaches. If you guys recall, it took Taylor FOREVER to find someone to be his defensive coordinator because the better, more established ones turned down the offer. This team should be 4-1 or at worst 3-2. Instead were tied for last with the Stains at 1-4. To make things worse 0-3 at home and 0-3 in the conference after 5 weeks! At this rate, Burrow will end up being this generations, "Dan Marino," making a SB appearance early in his career and nothing more.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767661 On another note ... If Ja'Marr breaks 2,000 yards this year (he's on pace for 1,700) he's going to be very expensive. Should have signed him already.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767664 4 hours ago, UncleEarl said: The defense is failing in many ways, but it starts with the line. When there is little to no pressure it exposes any weaknesses in coverage, of which the Bengals have plenty. The injuries/talent drain on the DL is a problem. No replacement for Reader. Injury related or not, the dropoff in play from Hubbard is large. New guys not stepping up. Drafting on both OL and DL is an issue they need to address. It's bad, and I don't think you can blow it off on luck. CTB is frustrating, but he's a talent. I think the outside CBs are suffering because even when they are supposed to have safety support those guys are too slow to get there. This team needs safeties. Last year it was inexperience and mistakes. This year it's old guys who struggle physically to keep up. If the Bengals are going to lose, better to lose with physically talented guys trying to learn. Finally, is Anarumo's defense too hard to learn, or is it a teaching and/or patience problem from the coaching staff? The Bengals had an All Pro safety thar they let walk because they didn’t want to pay him, same for DT. I have a feeling we will be saying the same thing about WR next season....the front offices decision making is killing the Bengals.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767665 34 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: On another note ... If Ja'Marr breaks 2,000 yards this year (he's on pace for 1,700) he's going to be very expensive. Should have signed him already. Should have got him & Tee in a room together and worked out a deal for both a year ago.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767666 Hey now, Sheldon Rankins will come to our rescue. The Bengals are paying him more than the Lions are paying Reader so he must be better, right? The Bengals never misvalue players.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767670 25 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Should have got him & Tee in a room together and worked out a deal for both a year ago. I thought when Joe signed he said he was leaving enough for both Ja'Marr and Tee. We see how that worked out.
October 7, 2024Oct 7 comment_1767673 2 hours ago, T-Dub said: Ok sure, but get this: neither are the Bengals. Not trying to be funny or a doomer here but this team is 1-4. 3 of those 4 teams have better records. Kinda over the "we should be 5-0 if only" excuses. This team is bad. We can blame it all on the defense but we, and more importantly they, need to understand that. None of those 4 teams give a shit about a Super Bowl 2.5 years ago. They see a bad team on their schedule that keeps finding a way to lose. That's who they are right now. Instead they keep talking like they're a SB contender and it's fucking delusional. I don't think the team thinks they are playing championship football right now. Joe said so in his press conference. I also don't think the team is bad. I think the offense is championship level but the defense is statistically the 2nd worst iirc That leads you to a 9-8 or 8-9 team.
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