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[quote name='oldschooler' post='523402' date='Aug 7 2007, 10:58 PM'][font="Times New Roman"][size=7][b]*[/b][/size][/font][/quote]


Yep.

And I take solace in knowing that (barring injury) that A-Rod will crush any record Bonds sets.


I don't give a shit if he is a Yankee; at least he's not juicing...
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[quote name='#22' post='523409' date='Aug 7 2007, 11:10 PM']I'm really happy for Barry. He's the best hitter in baseball, and (as Joe Morgan says), PROVE that he took steroids.[/quote]


Isn't that like saying PROVE O.J. murdered Ron and Nichole?


You[b] know [/b]the truth deep down...
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Congratulations Mr. Bonds. But watching it seemed somehow hollow. When Ruth broke the record [whoever] had set, it was not a seminal moment in American history. It was for HR 715 for Aaron for so many reasons, and when those kids run along side him and his teammates embraced him at home plate it seemed genuine. With Bonds it was all a show. He has the talent but no heart.

Still one of the greatest players of all time, but more remarkable for that which he lacks than the peerless skill he possesses.
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[quote][size=5]MLB To Place Asterisk, Pound Sign, Exclamation Point, Letter 'F' Next To Bonds' Name In Record Books[/size]

May 25, 2006 | Onion Sports

SAN FRANCISCO— Commissioner Bud Selig announced Wednesday that, once the Giants slugger retires, his name in the official MLB record books will be forever accompanied by an asterisk, followed by a pound sign and exclamation point, all preceded by the letter 'F'—a string of characters that, according to Selig, "will always be associated with Barry Bonds."
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"When my children's grandchildren open up their Baseball Almanac a hundred years from now, they'll see this enduring, universally understood symbol right next to Barry's name," Selig said. "And when they do, they'll immediately know that this sequence of characters—F*#!—reflects history's attitude toward not only the conditions under which he was able to hit his home runs, but also the historical implications he had on the game and its records, the relationship he had with the media and fans during his momentous chase, and just the general atmosphere of baseball in an era he will come to embody."

"These symbols say more about Barry Bonds and his contributions to this sport than any mere number ever could," Selig added.

The decision, which Selig characterized as the only way to accurately convey that Barry Bonds hit his 714-plus home runs under "some pretty goddamn special circumstances," is reminiscent of a similar one made in 1961 by then-commissioner Ford Frick. Frick suggested that an asterisk be placed next to Roger Maris' single-season home-run record of 61, an annotation used to explain that Maris hit his home runs over the course of an expanded 162-game season rather than a 154-game season.

According to Selig, the symbol that will be placed next to Bonds' name requires no further explanation.

"When people think of Roger Maris, they immediately think 'asterisk,'" Selig said. "And when people of this and future generations think of Barry Bonds, they will immediately think F*#!"

Most experts, fans, teammates, and those close to the seven-time MVP say that, while Maris was never able to adjust to the stigma of being remembered as a historical footnote, Bonds is already used to constantly hearing the phrase "F*#!" everywhere he goes.

Baseball fans around the country have applauded Selig's decision, with many agreeing that Bonds' accomplishments deserve to be emphasized in such a fashion, and with some even vehemently insisting that his name be accompanied by an even longer string of symbols and letters.

"The first thing I said when I saw Bonds hit No. 714 was, 'Aww, F*#!'" said Oakland resident Roger Jaffe, who was in attendance at the game during which Bonds tied Ruth, and who claims to have heard many fans mutter the exact same thing. "But the more I think about it, there are at least a thousand other variations on it that may be even more appropriate to describe Bonds and his career."

All-time home-run leader Hank Aaron contacted the chairman of the Society for American Baseball Research's records committee, saying that, should Bonds approach his home-run total of 755, he would like "some input as to what appears next to Bonds' name."

"I have been thinking about this for quite some time, and I have upwards of 200 very good suggestions that I think they might like to hear," Aaron said.

Major League Baseball has specified that the 'F'–asterisk–pound sign–exclamation point symbol will only appear next to Bonds' name in the all-time home-run category, with his name in other categories to be accompanied by symbols more fitting for that particular one, including: an "at" symbol, two dollar signs, a pound sign, an asterisk, and Nos. 1 and 3 (@$$#*13) next to his single-season home-run total of 73; two series of five asterisks—the first preceded by the letter 'M' and the second preceded by the letter 'F' (M***** F*****)—next to his single-season slugging-percentage record of .863; and a sequence of letters reading "The bastard used to be pretty goddamn good in his own right without the fucking steroids" next to his eight Gold Glove Awards.

"F*#! Barry Bonds, 714 F*#!^&% home runs," Selig said, reading a line out of the most updated version of this year's record book. "F*#! Barry Bonds."[img]http://www.theonion.com/content/themes/onion/assets/terminator.gif[/img][/quote]
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[quote name='Actium' post='523426' date='Aug 8 2007, 12:45 AM']Congratulations Mr. Bonds. But watching it seemed somehow hollow. When Ruth broke the record [whoever] had set, it was not a seminal moment in American history. It was for HR 715 for Aaron for so many reasons, and when those kids run along side him and his teammates embraced him at home plate it seemed genuine. With Bonds it was all a show. He has the talent but no heart.

Still one of the greatest players of all time, but more remarkable for that which he lacks than the peerless skill he possesses.[/quote]

its funny, his son was at home plate to hug him, bonds points to the sky and ignores his own sons hug. "dad.... THANK YOOUUUUOUUU" in his speak. what a crock of shit the whole thing was.

[quote name='LoyalFanInGA v2.0' post='523428' date='Aug 8 2007, 12:51 AM'][img]http://r_harrison.tripod.com/Agonist/BarryBonds.jpg[/img][/quote]

what? arent guys heads supposed to double in size as their career come to a decline and all the sudden start cranking home runs and taking triple the normal recovery time for injuries, and starting to talk like a woman and no longer needing a cup?
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Congratulations to Mr. Bonds on his achievement; my concern is how much of a price he paid; with payments come due in a few years (on his body).

Now for some perspective on comparisons; why I love this sport:

[b]BONDS STATS as of the end of 2006:[/b]

Years: 21

Games played: 2,860

At Bats: 9,507

HR: 734

HR per at-bats: 12.95

Slugging pct: .608

[b]RUTH STATS:[/b]

Years: 22

Games: 2,503

At Bats: 8,399

HR: 714

HR per at-bats: 11.76

Slugging pct: [b].690[/b]

Here is an interesting tid-bit; the "Fat Man" had [b]136 triples[/b]. What does this mean; the fields were huge back then and you know that didn't play him shallow. So, Imagine if Ruth played
in sand-boxes like the GABP; alot of those triples would have been out.

Why no Aarron comparison; Arron's numbers are worst than Bonds in comparison to Ruth.

However, with everthing said; I would teach my hitters to emulate Bond over anyone else.
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[quote name='sneaky' post='523481' date='Aug 8 2007, 07:55 AM'][color="#FF0000"][b]What is this, the playa hater's ball?

Yah some haters. Dont hate, congratulate.[/b][/color][/quote]

[i]Empirical data doesn't hate; it substantiates![/i] ^_^

[i]Doing the math taking Bonds at bats and subtracting Ruths at-bats, then divide by Ruth's HR per at-bats and add to to Ruths total of HR'sI came up with these results.[/i]

9,507 - 8,399 = 1108 / 11.76 = 94.217 plus 714 = [b]808[/b], [i]that is how many Home Runs Ruth would have; statistic wise with everything being equal.[/i]

[i]Of course they are not, Ruth won 94 games as a pitcher with an ERA of 2.28 and oh, how many World Series rings does Bonds have.[/i] ;)

[url="http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/sportscolumns/entries/2007/08/07/ruth_makes_case.html"]http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...makes_case.html[/url]

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[quote name='Lawman' post='523474' date='Aug 8 2007, 07:11 AM']Congratulations to Mr. Bonds on his achievement; my concern is how much of a price he paid; with payments come due in a few years (on his body).

Now for some perspective on comparisons; why I love this sport:

[b]BONDS STATS as of the end of 2006:[/b]

Years: 21

Games played: 2,860

At Bats: 9,507

HR: 734

HR per at-bats: 12.95

Slugging pct: .608

[b]RUTH STATS:[/b]

Years: 22

Games: 2,503

At Bats: 8,399

HR: 714

HR per at-bats: 11.76

Slugging pct: [b].690[/b]

Here is an interesting tid-bit; the "Fat Man" had [b]136 triples[/b]. What does this mean; the fields were huge back then and you know that didn't play him shallow. So, Imagine if Ruth played
in sand-boxes like the GABP; alot of those triples would have been out.

Why no Aarron comparison; Arron's numbers are worst than Bonds in comparison to Ruth.

However, with everthing said; I would teach my hitters to emulate Bond over anyone else.[/quote]
how can u say those triples would be HRs? how do u know the ball flight? a gap shot that would normally hit the wall and stop could have rolled an extra 10-20 feet and instead of it being a double (like it is now) it could have been a triple then. id bet a lot of money that most of those triples were results of balls in the gaps (most good hitters hit a lot of gap shots) or balls down the lines.


[quote name='Lawman' post='523493' date='Aug 8 2007, 08:34 AM'][i]Empirical data doesn't hate; it substantiates![/i] ^_^

[i]Doing the math taking Bonds at bats and subtracting Ruths at-bats, then divide by Ruth's HR per at-bats and add to to Ruths total of HR'sI came up with these results.[/i]

9,507 - 8,399 = 1108 / 11.76 = 94.217 plus 714 = [b]808[/b], [i]that is how many Home Runs Ruth would have; statistic wise with everything being equal.[/i]

[i]Of course they are not, Ruth won 94 games as a pitcher with an ERA of 2.28 and oh, how many World Series rings does Bonds have.[/i] ;)

[url="http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/sportscolumns/entries/2007/08/07/ruth_makes_case.html"]http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...makes_case.html[/url][/quote]
it wasnt equal on ruths part either. he didnt have to face any non white players. and the non white players are far better baseball players.

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