TheBeaverHunter Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Do you think the proper changes would be made if we are .500 or above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actium Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='TheBeaverHunter' post='586795' date='Nov 5 2007, 02:29 PM']Do you think the proper changes would be made if we are .500 or above?[/quote] If we transposed the numbers in our record, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 10-6... i think marvin is smart enough to know what changes need to be made.. it seems the DC job is already to be placed in someone elses hands... some new specialsty coaches and added training staff should pretty much shore up the deficiencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Win out. Hoping to lose out is BS and will hurt us down the line with FAs. Hell, if we are going to wave a magic wand, make everyone healthy for 1 game and find out who can actually play. For example: carries, yards, average, long, tds 30 296 9.2 64 3 73 337 4.6 30 0 the first is first round pick adrian peterson yesterday the second is first round pick chris perry's lifetime stats (4 years) 4.6 is pretty dang good but 337 yards in 4 years is just killing us. It would be nice to know who can and can not play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Win out. But I dont want to go 7-9, 8-8 etc and have another mediocre draft position. If we cant win out (pretty much impossible) then I want a shot at a bona fide blue chip (almost) cant miss prospect. A man-among-boys DE, or a big time LBer. Our pass rush is a horrid nightmare. Wait, do we have a pass rush?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalBeotch Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 WIN, WIN, WIN....I hate losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Dumb question. 10-6 should be playoffs. 2-14 is just a potential pick that could be Calvin Johnson or could be Mike Williams. What I definitely don't want is 7-9 or 8-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I don't mean for this to sound harsh, but this is a dumbass poll... 10-6 would give you a damn good shot at playoffs - always has in the past. That said, the likelihood of that happening are slim and none and slim just left town. I'm like a bunch of others here - I don't want to see 8-8 or 7-9. I either want to get 9-7 or better, or tank it pretty good where changes are going to have to happen just to keep the masses happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' post='586828' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:04 PM']I don't mean for this to sound harsh, but this is a dumbass poll... 10-6 would give you a damn good shot at playoffs - always has in the past. That said, the likelihood of that happening are slim and none and slim just left town. I'm like a bunch of others here - I don't want to see 8-8 or 7-9. I either want to get 9-7 or better, or tank it pretty good where changes are going to have to happen just to keep the masses happy.[/quote] if I'm not mistaken, its still true that no team with a 10-6 record or better HASN'T made the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 Full speed ahead. We can still win this thing. Sincerely, The 5th Panzer Army Ardennes Forest December 1944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I would rather go 8-8 and still be a semi respectable team after finishing the year 6-2 and have a mid draft pick then lose out and get a top 3 draft pick but be an embarrasment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOrange1219 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='586831' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:05 PM']if I'm not mistaken, its still true that no team with a 10-6 record or better HASN'T made the playoffs.[/quote] [url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?season=2005&breakdown=3&split=0"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?se...n=3&split=0[/url] 2005 KC was 10-6 and missed the playoffs. Wild card teams were 12-4 and 11-5... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='586831' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:05 PM']if I'm not mistaken, its still true that no team with a 10-6 record or better HASN'T made the playoffs.[/quote] It happened once I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='MrOrange1219' post='586836' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:09 PM'][url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?season=2005&breakdown=3&split=0"][url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?se...n=3&split=0"]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/standings?se...n=3&split=0[/url][/url] 2005 KC was 10-6 and missed the playoffs. Wild card teams were 12-4 and 11-5...[/quote] color me mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaverHunter Posted November 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I don't think 10-6 will get us in the playoffs this year. In all honesty I would put everything I own saying no way in hell do we win out. This team is too bad to win out and lacks the coaching to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaverHunter Posted November 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' post='586828' date='Nov 5 2007, 05:04 PM']I don't mean for this to sound harsh, but this is a dumbass poll... 10-6 would give you a damn good shot at playoffs - always has in the past. That said, the likelihood of that happening are slim and none and slim just left town. I'm like a bunch of others here - I don't want to see 8-8 or 7-9. [b]I either want to get 9-7 or better, or tank it pretty good where changes are going to have to happen just to keep the masses happy.[/b][/quote] That is what this poll is asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='TheBeaverHunter' post='586842' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:14 PM']That is what this poll is asking.[/quote] it may be what your first post is implying, but its not what the poll is asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Bengal Migration| Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 I voted 2-14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyInDC Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 10-6 could get a playoff spot given how the colts and pats are beating freaking everybody in our conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vol_Bengal Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Bengals1181' post='586840' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:12 PM']color me mistaken.[/quote] I'm not saying that 10-6 would guarantee playoffs but I'd take my chances on it. [quote name='TheBeaverHunter' post='586841' date='Nov 5 2007, 04:13 PM']I don't think 10-6 will get us in the playoffs this year. In all honesty I would put everything I own saying no way in hell do we win out. This team is too bad to win out and lacks the coaching to do so.[/quote] I agree. But the poll asks which would you rather have 2-14 or 10-6. Of those two options which would you choose? I said 10-6 as you'd have a decent, not guaranteed, but decent shot at playoffs. What I think will happen is more like 7-9 or 8-8 and we'll pick in the 12-14 range. But, that wasn't what the poll asked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Vol_Bengal' post='586855' date='Nov 5 2007, 05:24 PM']I'm not saying that 10-6 would guarantee playoffs but I'd take my chances on it. I agree. But the poll asks which would you rather have 2-14 or 10-6. Of those two options which would you choose? I said 10-6 as you'd have a decent, not guaranteed, but decent shot at playoffs. What I think will happen is more like 7-9 or 8-8 and we'll pick in the 12-14 range. But, that wasn't what the poll asked...[/quote] ^^^^^ what he said...... Also, I am honestly not worried about draft position. I want to see continued improvement from what I believe is our core in terms of defense. I want to see Brooks back on the field, I want to see Geathers to get back to DE and exceed what he did last year. I want to see Peko to continue to develop and Jeanty as well. JonJo and Halll continue to make progress. And then see what we have with Frostee, Fanane, Landon, and Madieu to determine whether they are part of the future or not. If we win and see improvement in the core, and can make key decisions on others who are UFA's or RFA's, that is more important to me than draft position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoDeyThink Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='TheBeaverHunter' post='586795' date='Nov 5 2007, 03:29 PM']Do you think the proper changes would be made if we are .500 or above?[/quote] If we win out I would seriously question making any major changes. However niether will happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Dey Forever Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 If 10-6 were to get us in the playoffs then yes I would rather be 10-6 if not then I would much rather be 2-14...Have possibly the #1 overall pick..I see us finishing 6-10 though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigfox09 Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='GoBengals' post='586802' date='Nov 5 2007, 03:35 PM']10-6... i think marvin is smart enough to know what changes need to be made.. [b]it seems the DC job is already to be placed in someone elses hands... [/b]some new specialsty coaches and added training staff should pretty much shore up the deficiencies.[/quote] Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatcat Posted November 5, 2007 Report Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Sigfox09' post='586892' date='Nov 5 2007, 06:05 PM']Who?[/quote] I think that Donnie Henderson has been seen frequently at the PBS headquarters has drawn a little attention. Does it mean it is a done deal, much like Bres showing up before Frazier was tossed - who knows [img]http://forum.go-bengals.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/39.gif[/img] But it is certainly not out of the realm of possibility or for that matter speculation....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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