2010 NFL DRAFT - Cincinnati Bengals

[scharm]

[quote name='Jamie_B' date='13 January 2010 - 03:04 PM' timestamp='1263413093' post='856928']
Not sure I would agree. We predominately used the 3 wide when Chad, TJ, and Henry were the WRs. Doesnt mean we didnt run other packages, but I would venture to say that the 3 wide was our predominate set, with the three of them running various routes. Hell the 3 wide was made famous by Denny Green. It's about what talent you have, and while he can catch Reggie Kelly is not known to be a catching TE. Which tells me we still planed on using the 3 wide set but might have mixed in some two TE formations but because Kelly wasnt a known catching TE they were not going to be how our offense was based. Had we had Kelly/Utecht/Coffman this year, I have no doubt that we would have run some two TE sets based on Utecht/Coffman going out and being the pass catching guys or Utecht/Kelly or Coffman/Kelly with Kelly staying in and blocking. But due to the talent and experience at WR I would venture to say we were going to run 3 wide more than we were 2 TE. Doesnt mean we wont be a two TE predominate team if a good one falls to us in the draft though.
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3 wide was the dominant set prior to 08. Extra blocker and physical running style formations have become the dominant set for the bengals. They use those formatios to set up any 3 wide combos.

Injuries at TE make it hard to project what will become next year. Inverted wishbone with 3 backs was used more than a few times. Extra tackles were used as TEs. I think FB was used more.

I think it's safe to say they want to run first and use extra blockers to establish it.

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='scharm' date='14 January 2010 - 08:16 AM' timestamp='1263475014' post='857064']
They had Roland going in motion more times than I can count. Alot of times an extra tackle with TE were on the field. That's is more than enough proof that alot of what they want to do is based on having the extra blocker.

They'll struggle if the extra blocker has to be a tackle the entire time as it did and will continue to allow defenses to clamp down on them with little downside.

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Bring in a true 3 down TE (equal blocker/pass catcher).[/b] Upgrade your RT spot. The extra TE just must not completely suck at blocking and show desire to. If that happens Benson and Scott will make the years they just had look bad. It improves pass protection as defenders can not pin their ears back.


Understatement of the offseason: Maintain physical run blocking and Improve threats to back 7 of the defense is going to be the focus of this offense for this offseason. IMO, that means at least one significant player is going to be added at TE. Hopefully the other pieces are on the roster.
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you keep calling for that like they grow on trees. They are few and far between, especially with the advent of the spread offense in college football.

[scharm]

[quote name='Bengals1181' date='14 January 2010 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1263483824' post='857105']
you keep calling for that like they grow on trees. They are few and far between, especially with the advent of the spread offense in college football.
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I don't think they are few and far between. It calls for an investment in the position. 1 guy that can get 50/60 catches 500/600 yards that you don't have to hide in certain situations because they are absolutely horrible at blocking.


Not asking for Willie Anderson type blocker that can catch a 1,000 yards.

[akiliMVP]

[quote name='scharm' date='14 January 2010 - 10:49 AM' timestamp='1263484144' post='857106']
I don't think they are few and far between. It calls for an investment in the position. 1 guy that can get 50/60 catches 500/600 yards that you don't have to hide in certain situations because they are absolutely horrible at blocking.


Not asking for Willie Anderson type blocker that can catch a 1,000 yards.
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We just need to trade for Martellus Bennett and not worry about trying to develop a receiver to block. He's a great blocker with all the tools to be a good receiver. Most good receiving tight ends suck at blocking.

[scharm]

[quote name='akiliMVP' date='14 January 2010 - 11:23 AM' timestamp='1263486228' post='857115']
We just need to trade for Martellus Bennett and not worry about trying to develop a receiver to block. He's a great blocker with all the tools to be a good receiver. Most good receiving tight ends suck at blocking.
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Whatever the method of acquisition, I'm fine with it. Until it happens, it has to be considered a top draft need because it is very likely they desire to add a body to the spot.

[sparky151]

Hell, just sign Alge Crumpler off the scrap heap. He's a better blocker than Coates or Foschi and can run short patterns ok. He replace Reggie Kelly once, let him do it again.

[joshua]

[quote name='akiliMVP' date='14 January 2010 - 11:23 AM' timestamp='1263486228' post='857115']
We just need to trade for Martellus Bennett and not worry about trying to develop a receiver to block. He's a great blocker with all the tools to be a good receiver. Most good receiving tight ends suck at blocking.
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We already tried trading for him at some point during the season...the Cowboys aren't going to let him go.

[oldschooler]

CFT's [url="http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/02/underclassmen-declarations-tracker/"]underclassmen declarations tracker[/url]

[cassanos]

[b][size="4"]2009 NFL Mock Draft - 1/19/2010[/size][/b]

[b]Rob Rang[/b]

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[b]Chad Reuter[/b]

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[Jamie_B]

Good lord some of these guys need to do some research, he got paid for that?

Peko isnt a free agent we signed him to a contract I believe last year.

[oldschooler]

[quote name='Jamie_B' date='21 January 2010 - 04:22 AM' timestamp='1264069364' post='858712']
Good lord some of these guys need to do some research, he got paid for that?

Peko isnt a free agent we signed him to a contract I believe last year.
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Yeah, I could see if that guy wrote that for The Bleacher Report.
But good Lord, Peko signed an extension last year that will keep
him a Bengal through 2014.

[Dautcom08]

Two guys I wish we could have a shot at this year in the draft would be WR Baldwin from Pitt and TE Kyle Rudolph from ND they both have all the tools we're talking about in both WR and TE. But I guess I'm getting ahead of myself there.

That said, I'd be happy with OG/WR, WR/OG, S and acquiring a vet DT and backer.

[oldschooler]

I was wanting Brandon Spikes last year, but he stayed for his Senoir season.

I would still like to have him. And of course would rather get him in the 2nd.

[cassanos]

[size="6"]2010 NFL Draft: Underclassmen who made right, wrong decisions[/size]


[b][size="5"]The Right Choice[/size][/b]

[b]Eric Berry/S/Tennessee:[/b] Berry moves towards April as the draft's top-rated safety and ranks as a top-five selection. He improved his play every season at Tennessee and really had little else to prove on the college level.

[b]Gerald McCoy/DT/Oklahoma:[/b] McCoy was unstoppable the three seasons he spent with Oklahoma and grades as one of the best defensive linemen in the nation. Considering McCoy witnessed several of his talented teammates succumb to injury over the past six months, his decision to enter the draft was understandable.

[b]Damian Williams/WR/USC:[/b] Williams is rated by many scouts as the number one receiver in the draft and is considered the only true game-breaker with a first-round grade. His ability to alter the momentum of games as a return specialist makes him more enticing. Williams could have become a top 10 selection for the 2011 draft had he returned to USC, but the recent upheaval within the program made this a good time to get out.

[b]Joe Haden/CB/Florida:[/b] The Gators shutdown cornerback clearly stands above everyone else in a draft that is full of question marks at the position. Scouts expect Haden to turn in a great workout at the combine next month. If he does, the talented junior could be chosen earlier than most think.

[b]Maurkice Pouncey/C/Florida:[/b] Like his teammate Haden, Pouncey stands head and shoulders above all other players at his position. Although centers are rarely taken in the first round, Pouncey will likely be one of the exceptions.

[b]Brian Price/DT/UCLA:[/b] Defensive tackles will be coveted as usual, and Price rates as one of its better prospects. Measurables are an issue because he's not much taller than 6-foot-2.

[b]Demaryius Thomas/WR/Georgia Tech:[/b] Thomas is the big, game-controlling receiver teams look for in round one. Returning to play in Georgia Tech's run oriented, option offense would have done little to improve his draft grade.

[b]Toby Gerhart/RB/Stanford:[/b] Gerhart comes off a monumental season culminated by a runner-up finish for the Heisman Trophy. The hard-charging interior running back pounds the ball on the inside and can handle a lot of carries. His playing style dictates a short shelf life in football, so Gerhart is wise to strike while the iron is hot.

[b]Antonio Brown/WR/Central Michigan:[/b] Brown ranks as one of the better skills prospects in April's draft. He's an ultra-productive receiver and game-breaking return specialist. He does not grade as an early pick, but returning for one more season was a risky proposition given that his head coach left for greener pastures and his senior quarterback, Dan LeFevour, will graduate into the NFL.


[b][size="5"]Questionable Choice[/size][/b]

[b]Carlos Dunlap/DE/Florida:[/b] Dunlap's physical skills and ability usually warrant a spot in the draft's opening selections. Yet his inconsistency and lack of intensity have depressed his grade. Had Dunlap returned to Florida for his senior season and played to the level scouts expected, he could have been a top six choice in 2011. Right now he is struggling to solidify himself as a late first rounder.

[b]Rob Gronkowski/TE/Arizona:[/b] Gronkowski looked like a star in the making after his sophomore season of 2008. He was expected to take another step forward this year, yet watched from the sidelines after suffering a back injury that required surgery to repair. Although Gronkowski was given a clean bill of health from doctors, a prospect who misses an entire season with a back injury will invariably drop down draft boards.

Jevan Snead/QB/Mississippi: Snead was justifiably considered one of the top quarterback prospects in the nation entering the '09 season. His play last season was nothing short of awful. He dropped at least two rounds on draft boards because of his play last season. Another season in school might have done wonders if he showed improvement.

[b]Mike Williams/WR/Syracuse:[/b] Williams is a big play wideout who looks the part when he's on the field. Trouble is he missed the '08 campaign with academic issues then abruptly left the team last October. His physical skills have been given a first round grade by NFL scouts yet there are serious maturity questions surrounding Williams.

[cassanos]

[size="5"]Thursday January 21, 2010[/size]

The NFL officially released the names of the draft eligible underclassmen, and the landscape of the 2010 draft is starting to take shape.

Teams are starting to identify which prospects potentially fill their most pressing needs, and are stacking their respective draft boards accordingly.

There is plenty of work to be done, as scouts still have college all-star games -- starting next week with Senior Bowl practices -- the combine and pro days to better evaluate the talent available. The result of those evaluations could cause the grades of the top prospects to rise or fall during the run up to the draft.

Regardless, it's never too early to look ahead to the draft, so here is my first mock draft of 2010 (*asterisk denotes underclassman):

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[oldschooler]

[url="http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2010/01/21/three-mock-drafts-three-different-picks/"][b][size="5"]Three mock drafts, three different picks[/size][/b][/url]
Posted by [email="jreedy@enquirer.com"]jreedy[/email] January 21st, 2010, 6:41 pm

With three months until the first round of the NFL Draft (April 23), the first series of mock drafts are being released even though positions 29-32 have not been finalized.

And as is the norm this time of the year, three of them have the Bengals taking different players with the 21st pick.

ESPN’s [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/insider/news/story?id=4841432"][color="#9c070c"]Mel Kiper[/color][/url] has the Bengals selecting Florida TE Aaron Hernandez in the first round. According to one draft observer that I talked to, Hernandez is seen as a faster, smaller version of Chase Coffman who would supply less as a blocker than Coffman. Considering that Coffman’s major deficiency was trying to develop as a blocker, who knows if this is the best route.

NFL Draft Scout’s [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-ChadReuter"][color="#9c070c"]Chad Reuter[/color][/url] also has the Bengals taking a tight end, but he has them selecting Oklahoma’s Jermaine Gresham, who he sees as a better blocker.

NFL Draft Scout’s [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfldraftscout-RobRang"][color="#9c070c"]Rob Rang[/color][/url] has UCLA DT Brian Price who was the Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year and had 23.5 tackles for loss this past season.



(Click the link below for the entire article)


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[Inigo Montoya]

I hope to see the Bengals draft a new back-up QB at some point this year. My sleeper pick is Dan LeFevour from Central Michigan. Just look at these stats:


53 career games (4-year starter)
2,948 career rushing yards
47 rushing touchdowns
12,905 career passing yards
102 passing touchdowns
36 interceptions
66.4% career completion percentage
2 MAC Championships
2-time MAC Offensive POY
3-time 1st Team All-MAC
2006 MAC Freshman of the Year


This guy is a play-maker and he's capable of carrying an offense by himself. He doesn't have a "canon" throwing arm, but he is accurate and he throws well on the run. His experience as a 4-year starter is a proven indicator for successful NFL quarterbacks.

[Cricket]

[quote name='Inigo Montoya' date='23 January 2010 - 06:14 PM' timestamp='1264288461' post='859261']
I hope to see the Bengals draft a new back-up QB at some point this year. My sleeper pick is Dan LeFevour from Central Michigan. Just look at these stats:


53 career games (4-year starter)
2,948 career rushing yards
47 rushing touchdowns
12,905 career passing yards
102 passing touchdowns
36 interceptions
66.4% career completion percentage
2 MAC Championships
2-time MAC Offensive POY
3-time 1st Team All-MAC
2006 MAC Freshman of the Year


This guy is a play-maker and he's capable of carrying an offense by himself. He doesn't have a "canon" throwing arm, but he is accurate and he throws well on the run. His experience as a 4-year starter is a proven indicator for successful NFL quarterbacks.
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He certainly has been impressive in the games that I've seen him play. Does Kiper or anyone else have the QB's ranked yet?

For more info on LeFevour:

http://www.cmuchippewas.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=46374&SPID=4199&DB_OEM_ID=10500&ATCLID=344614&Q_SEASON=2009

[JC]

Dez Bryant absolutely has to be the pick if he is there. He would have been top five last year. We can find someone for the line in the second round if Dez falls into our laps.

If not I would go for Iupati and wait for one of the recievers to falls to us in the second round.


On a side note, could anyone imagine the 49ers getting Berry to pair with Patrick Willis. That would be so sick. It would be the Ravens great defense incarnated.

[ReyRey]

Is there any way Iupati can fall to us in the second round? I would love to get Gresham in 1 and the best guard or tackle in 2.

[Jason]

[quote name='akiliMVP' date='12 January 2010 - 08:20 PM' timestamp='1263345638' post='856754']
God I would love if they traded up for Rolando McClain
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McClain is a great player. But the offense needs fixing, not the D. If we trade up for anyone it better be Bryant.

[Inigo Montoya]

[quote name='Inigo Montoya' timestamp='1264288461' post='859261']
I hope to see the Bengals draft a new back-up QB at some point this year. My sleeper pick is Dan LeFevour from Central Michigan. Just look at these stats:


53 career games (4-year starter)
2,948 career rushing yards
47 rushing touchdowns
12,905 career passing yards
102 passing touchdowns
36 interceptions
66.4% career completion percentage
2 MAC Championships
2-time MAC Offensive POY
3-time 1st Team All-MAC
2006 MAC Freshman of the Year


This guy is a play-maker and he's capable of carrying an offense by himself. He doesn't have a "canon" throwing arm, but he is accurate and he throws well on the run. His experience as a 4-year starter is a proven indicator for successful NFL quarterbacks.
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I posted this back in January. Glad the Bengals picked him up and I think he could be a long-term solution at backup QB.

[sois]

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[scharm]

I'm glad bengals addressed TE.

[Oldcat]

[quote name='Inigo Montoya' timestamp='1283741815' post='914819']
I posted this back in January. Glad the Bengals picked him up and I think he could be a long-term solution at backup QB.
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He has to talk Mr and Mrs Palmer into adopting him first.