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Is it possible that the Bengals hire a GM this year ?

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Watched the interview of Marvin Lewis for surface tidbits and what never left my head was a nagging feeling that he could be back in another capacity.

 

Is it likely ?  No.

 

Would I be upset ?  Surprisingly no.  Whomever took over GM duties  would mean Mike Brown would not be making the football decisions.

 

Should my short lived fantasy become partially true, who would come here as a GM (not related to Mike Brown) to take charge ?

 

Health reasons may force him to sooner rather than later.

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https://www.cincyjungle.com/2018/12/1/18112249/bengals-gm-candidates-for-mike-brown-to-consider-hiring

 

(Outside of Duke Tobin...)

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Jeff Ireland

Unlike in business, outsiders can thrive more in sports. Ireland is a candidate who has some general manager experience. He was the Miami Dolphins GM from 2008-2013 which followed a seven-year stint with the Dallas Cowboys as the vice president of college and pro scouting. Given that Jerry Jones serves as his own general manager, this is as far as close to the position as Ireland could get in Dallas. He is currently the assistant general manager with the New Orleans Saints and has been part of that team’s recent aggressive push for a championship. They have drafted well in recent years and added talent through trades and free agency, even adding Dez Bryant and Brandon Marshallmidseason.

George Patton

The Vikings are another team who have been aggressive in improving their team. Vice president of player personnel and assistant general manger George Paton has been a part of building the team for over a decade. From trading for Sam Bradford to prevent a lost season to signing free agent Kirk Cousins to a massive contract, the Vikings aren’t afraid to make big moves. If the Brown family was willing to concede power to someone like that, it could mean big changed in Cincinnati.

Nick Caserio

Of course when looking to make any hire in the NFL it doesn’t hurt to look at those who have worked with and learned from Bill Belichick and there are a handful of interesting candidates with ties to him. Caserio has been the Patriots’ director of player personnel since 2008. He came up through the Patriots ranks and served many roles from them including director of pro personnel, area scout, and even wide receivers coach dating back to 2001. Caserio has seen how the Patriots get the most out of their personnel and use the draft, free agency, and trades to stay at the top of the league year in and year out.

Scott Piolo

With Belichick running the show, director of player personnel is the farthest Caserio could rise without leaving New England. The opportunity to become a general manager is what pushed Pioli out of New England. Pioli was with Belichick in Cleveland and followed the franchise and Ozzie Newsome to Baltimore. He also worked under Bill Parcells with the New York Jets before coming to New England and helping to build their dynasty. Three years as the general manager with the Kansas City Chiefs were less fruitful and now he is the assistant general manager with the Atlanta Falcons. Pioli has learned from the best in the business; and although his first go as a general manager was unsuccessful, he is worthy of a second chance.

Michael Lombardi

There are a number of people currently outside of the NFL who would be interesting candidates. One is fittingly the host of the GM Street podcast on The Ringer, Michael Lombardi. Lomardi started his career working for Bill Walsh in San Francisco. He was with Belichick in Cleveland and later served as executive personnel director for Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders. He served a very short stint as general manager in Cleveland before joining the Patriots with the very open-ended title of assistant to the coaching staff. Lombardi has worked for some great football minds and has a lot of knowledge of team building. In this way, he would be a tremendous asset to any coaching (be it Lewis or the next brilliant offensive mind). There is no telling if Lombardi is looking to get back into the NFL game or not but it is certainly worth looking into.

 

Louis Riddick

 

The other is ESPN’s Louis Riddick. While John Lynch and Matt Millen have moved from player to broadcaster and then into the front office, Riddick is different. He has experience in pro personnel with both the Washington Redskins and Philadelphia Eagles. Riddick has drawn interest for general manager positions in the past and was linked to Josh McDaniels as a potential package deal. Riddick is extremely intelligent and his knowledge of pro scouting something that would be highly valuable to the Bengals."

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“Why should I hire a GM, I already own a Chevy Lumina.”~ Mike Brown. 

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10 hours ago, turningpoint said:

Its duke tobin already, with out the title.

Probably. People have been clamoring for a GM since Mikey took over. Like that would magically fix everything. Him officially declaring a GM wouldn't mean that Mikey would relinquish control. What matters is no matter what they're title is that somebody else is calling a great deal of the shots. If that's Tobin or whomever. That's what's important. If that's happening, does that matter that he is not GM? Would Mikey declaring an official GM put people any more at ease even if it doesn't mean that Mikey will have less control?

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By the way so long as we are discussing Tobin, if he doesn't get things cleaned up he can be replaced too afic, because our draft picks have not exactly contributed alot to the team lately.

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10 minutes ago, Jamie_B said:

By the way so long as we are discussing Tobin, if he doesn't get things cleaned up he can be replaced too afic, because our draft picks have not exactly contributed alot to the team lately.

The coaching staff has a large hand in the draft process as well, so having a better (or younger refreshed staff) may help get the drafting back to the way it was. But only time will tell on that.

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1 hour ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

The coaching staff has a large hand in the draft process as well, so having a better (or younger refreshed staff) may help get the drafting back to the way it was. But only time will tell on that.

yeah im willing to wait and see on that, but i dont think Tobin is untouchable

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1 hour ago, I_C_Deadpeople said:

The coaching staff has a large hand in the draft process as well, so having a better (or younger refreshed staff) may help get the drafting back to the way it was. But only time will tell on that.

Yes, IMHO, the head coach change is pointless if there is little to no other coaching changes.

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11 minutes ago, Hooky said:

Yes, IMHO, the head coach change is pointless if there is little to no other coaching changes.

It seems like a new head coach would want to bring in at least some of his own people unless

one of The Usual Suspects (Hue, Lazor, Simmons) was hired and the status quo remained quo.

 

For example, to me, bringing in Zac Taylor as an OC sounds odd when a new head coach is needed.

Unless, perhaps, the HC decision has been made and it is one of the aforementioned Usual Suspects.

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7 hours ago, Hooky said:

Yes, IMHO, the head coach change is pointless if there is little to no other coaching changes.

 

Depends on the coach but fully expect them to hire one willing to keep playing their reindeer games.

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10 hours ago, Jamie_B said:

because our draft picks have not exactly contributed alot to the team lately.

well having Mikey (Ross) and Paul Alexander (Ogb/Fisher) completely sabotage two of the last four drafts surely didn't help anything on Tobins end.

we always need to keep in mind that one of the things Duke Tobin has absolutely no control over is the meddling of Mike Brown.

that's one of the big reasons I was never as down on Marv as most were.....overcoming Mikey is no easy task. 

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Here we go again with the "Hire a GM !" cries, as if that's some magic missing piece to success. Look at any of the worst teams in the NFL, and they all have GMs.

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15 minutes ago, Duluoz said:

Here we go again with the "Hire a GM !" cries, as if that's some magic missing piece to success. Look at any of the worst teams in the NFL, and they all have GMs.

Look at any of the best teams in the NFL and they also have GM's.  Most teams have GM's. 

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1 hour ago, Duluoz said:

Here we go again with the "Hire a GM !" cries, as if that's some magic missing piece to success. Look at any of the worst teams in the NFL, and they all have GMs.

Well it helps with the collective "fire the GM", along with "fire the HC", media siren music many seem to feed upon. 

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1 hour ago, T-Dub said:

Look at any of the best teams in the NFL and they also have GM's.  Most teams have GM's. 

Exactly...., all the best and all the worst teams in the NLF have GMs, making it a moot point.

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1 minute ago, Duluoz said:

Exactly...., all the best and all the worst teams in the NLF have GMs, making it a moot point.

 

Unless you don't have one, and aren't the Pats. 

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6 minutes ago, T-Dub said:

 

Unless you don't have one, and aren't the Pats. 

The Pats also have silver helmets...is that what the Bengals need to win?

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1 minute ago, Duluoz said:

The Pats also have silver helmets...is that what the Bengals need to win?

 

Are silver helmets the industry standard that they refuse to adapt to? Oh they're not? Gosh then wtf are you even talking about, how confusing for you...

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1 hour ago, Le Tigre said:

Well it helps with the collective "fire the GM", along with "fire the HC", media siren music many seem to feed upon. 

just out of curiosity, has the Mike Brown model worked out to your satisfaction?

or how about the Marvin Lewis model?

we're all fans LT, we're supposed to want better than the pile of shit we've been handed for the last almost 30 years now....why you feel the need to constantly rail against that, I have no idea..

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