Jamie_B Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 5th year option for Williams Collins is just not good. I don't mind the middle 3 but our tackles are just bad to mediocre. We haven't drafted a good linemen in forever. Joe gets sacked way too much, and the line isnt holding up long enough to do anything but play shotgun which has effected the run game. We spent alot of money on what looks like a worse Oline, which is just sad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotto Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 I wonder if Jonah woould be better at RT. Other than that, back to the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Honestly, if they had a good LT the whole unit would look a lot better. They are OK at G and C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 19 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Honestly, if they had a good LT the whole unit would look a lot better. They are OK at G and C. Honestly, Collins is worse than Williams is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 8 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Honestly, Collins is worse than Williams is. Possibly, but Williams plays the more important position. Then again the Browns didn’t move Garrett around last night to get him in front of Collins. He had his huckleberry from the start. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeslumina Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Garrett lined up against collins several times. He beat him at least three from what I remember. We played to Cleveland’s strength. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 hour ago, Mikeslumina said: Garrett lined up against collins several times. He beat him at least three from what I remember. We played to Cleveland’s strength. . Williams has given up 7 or 8 sacks this season depending on how many he picked up last night. Not exactly what you hope for in a 4th year pro picked 11th in the draft. Granted, I didnt see a tight end on his side much helping against arguably the best pass rusher in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 10 minutes ago, SF2 said: Williams has given up 7 or 8 sacks this season depending on how many he picked up last night. Not exactly what you hope for in a 4th year pro picked 11th in the draft. Granted, I didnt see a tight end on his side much helping against arguably the best pass rusher in the game. Do we have a TE that can block left? Hurst isnt really known for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 7 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Do we have a TE that can block left? Hurst isnt really known for that Didn’t we draft a guy in the second round a few years back? His name escapes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 3 minutes ago, SF2 said: Didn’t we draft a guy in the second round a few years back? His name escapes me. Out on IR for the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 11 hours ago, Spotto said: I wonder if Jonah woould be better at RT. Other than that, back to the draft? Guys would just run around his right side rather than his left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Why can every other team in the nfl figure out their o line but us it's insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 A LOT of teams are struggling with the o-line. Doesn’t make it ok that we are one of them. But we are not unique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 13 hours ago, Spotto said: I wonder if Jonah woould be better at RT. Other than that, back to the draft? He isnt miving hos feet well . Maybe a guard spot would be better for him. Then the question is who plays LT? Theyll ride with him at LT due to no options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 4 hours ago, Mikeslumina said: Garrett lined up against collins several times. He beat him at least three from what I remember. We played to Cleveland’s strength. . Or the Browns played to our weakness they exploited both tacjkes . Garrett can do that to most teams especially one with poor OTs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 17 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Or the Browns played to our weakness they exploited both tacjkes . Garrett can do that to most teams especially one with poor OTs... Something has to be done with Williams prior to next season. He can’t handle good pass rushers. If he’s playing you can assume four games are going to be a disaster with Watt and Garrett. There are other good rushers out there as well. Sadly if they cut Williams there is no Cap relief and they still have to pay him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 Thought I read somewhere late last night that Williams has now given up the highest number of sacks in the league this season. Yeah, he is #1. I am wondering if that knee/ankle injury is an issue making him go from average to shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 I think rather than "how long" we should be asking if they're capable of doing it at all. We make moves like Cordy Glenn or Collins and I'm struggling to think of a draft pick on the OL that's panned out in our QB's lifetime. I think Ted Karras must have got lost on the way to somewhere and liked our uniforms? Beyond that, we got nothin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 Cappa has been fine as well It's really just the tackles that are the problem. We haven't drafted a good linemen in years even under Marvin, which makes me think it's not the coaching it's who ever is the O-line scout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: Something has to be done with Williams prior to next season. He can’t handle good pass rushers. If he’s playing you can assume four games are going to be a disaster with Watt and Garrett. There are other good rushers out there as well. Sadly if they cut Williams there is no Cap relief and they still have to pay him. If he plays out the contract for this year, no need to cut amirite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 10 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Cappa has been fine as well It's really just the tackles that are the problem. We haven't drafted a good linemen in years even under Marvin, which makes me think it's not the coaching it's who ever is the O-line scout Who iis that scout? Intetesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 7 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: If he plays out the contract for this year, no need to cut amirite? his contract was extended with a 5th year option for next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 8 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Cappa has been fine as well It's really just the tackles that are the problem. We haven't drafted a good linemen in years even under Marvin, which makes me think it's not the coaching it's who ever is the O-line scout Is that someone other than the OL coach? I guess Cappa is alright for now but I'd still be looking for an OG that can make some kind of impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 9 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: If he plays out the contract for this year, no need to cut amirite? No reason to cut. The money and cap is spent. That doesn’t mean you have to play him if you can get someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted November 1 Author Report Share Posted November 1 2 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Who iis that scout? Intetesting. Million Dollar Question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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