OL Offseason 2024

[claptonrocks]

3 minutes ago, spicoli said:

How would I know? 

Sorry

[spicoli]

1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

Sorry

Let me reiterate…the narrative is already in place so what difference does it make what I think? 

[claptonrocks]

48 minutes ago, spicoli said:

Let me reiterate…the narrative is already in place so what difference does it make what I think? 

Well I guess you think your opinions to other members on here don't mean much..

They do...

[sparky151]

If Becton doesn't find a market the first couple of days, I could see him coming here for a year as cover for a rookie RT. 

[|BlackJesus|]

^ 

[claptonrocks]

12 minutes ago, BlackJesus said:

^ 

Seems Allways injured.

Last year was first full one.

 

985 snaps

18 penalties

12 sacks allowed

53 pff.

 

[New Jersey Bengal]

35 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Seems Allways injured.

Last year was first full one.

 

985 snaps

18 penalties

12 sacks allowed

53 pff.

 

Awful

[MichaelWeston]

I think they will shoot for someone who has some versatility and won't cost too much. I think this is probably the list they look at. Wynn makes some sense because he can play LG

 

Draft Order	Cap	OL	Age	Overall	Pass Block	Run Block	Snaps	Starts 23/Career	Notes	Position
	5	Fleming-Broncos	32	59.4	71.3	44.8	126	1/62	RT/LT	Rascati 21	1 yr 2.35
		Fant-Texans	32	61.7	68.4	51.9	1004	13/73	RT/LT	Pollack 20	1 yr 3
3		Onwenu-Patriots	26	71.5	68	72.1	850	15/56	RT/RG/LG		Rookie
	3	Wynn-Dolphins	27	47.8	67.5	43.2	392	7/47	LG/RT/LT		1 yr 2.3
	10	Nijman-Packers	28	61.7	65.8	60.3	259	1/22	RT/LT		1 yr 4.34
		Eluemonor-Raiders	29	68.5	64.4	71.5	905	14/45	RT/RG		1 yr 3
	8	Edoga-Cowboys	27	61.4	63.7	56.8	420	6/19	LT/LG/RT	Pollack 20	1 yr 1.23
10		Becton-Jets	25	53.2	60.7	56.3	985	16/30	LT/RT	Pollack 20	Rookie
4		Wilkinson-Cardinals	29	46.2	40.7	57.5	501	9/45	LG/RT/RG	Rascati 20	1 yr 1.23

[Le Tigre]

50 minutes ago, claptonrocks said:

Seems Allways injured.

Last year was first full one.

 

985 snaps

18 penalties

12 sacks allowed

53 pff.

 

As you certainly know, very few FA’s of superior quality will be within the Bengals’ erstwhile price range. 
 

“untapped potential” is the selling point for the peanuts they might be willing to take away from Uno to pay anyone else. 

[I_C_Deadpeople]

3 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

^ 

He is well past the untapped potential stage. He would  need to resurrect himself to be average. He is more likely a backup at this point. 

[T-Dub]

4 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Seems Allways injured.

Last year was first full one.

 

985 snaps

18 penalties

12 sacks allowed

53 pff.

 

 

 

Yikes, maybe they should bring back Jonah after all if this is their alternative. 

 

Is his connection to Pollack supposed to be a selling point or was that more like trivia? 🙄

[Jamie_B]

20 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

Seems Allways injured.

Last year was first full one.

 

985 snaps

18 penalties

12 sacks allowed

53 pff.

 

 

Curious what his numbers looked like the year that Pollack was with the Jets?

[|BlackJesus|]

I would sign Becton on a "prove it" deal (2 yr / 10 mill) and still draft Patrick Paul (similar body types) ... Then let them battle it out for the RT position in training camp. #IronSharpensIron 

[claptonrocks]

1 hour ago, Jamie_B said:

 

Curious what his numbers looked like the year that Pollack was with the Jets?

Pollack was Jets Oline coach in

2019 and 2020.

Bechton missed all of 2019 injury..

2020 he had

691 snaps

6 penalties

6 sacks

74.4 pff

 

2021 and 22 injured 

 

 

 

[claptonrocks]

22 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

As you certainly know, very few FA’s of superior quality will be within the Bengals’ erstwhile price range. 
 

“untapped potential” is the selling point for the peanuts they might be willing to take away from Uno to pay anyone else. 

I want to see Chase put up some big numbers this year.

I know he's a top WR 

But.

30 mil per is a helluva lot of money .

 

I'm sure they'll sign him to a multi year extension even so.

[claptonrocks]

19 hours ago, T-Dub said:

 

 

Yikes, maybe they should bring back Jonah after all if this is their alternative. 

 

Is his connection to Pollack supposed to be a selling point or was that more like trivia? 🙄

Gotta wonder about if they would.

Prolly not but it's a thought 

[claptonrocks]

14 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

I would sign Becton on a "prove it" deal (2 yr / 10 mill) and still draft Patrick Paul (similar body types) ... Then let them battle it out for the RT position in training camp. #IronSharpensIron 

I propose a 2 yr 10 mil contract to Elumanor .( Where both parties walking away satisfied) .

 

Bechton is not dependable.

 

 

[|BlackJesus|]

2 hours ago, claptonrocks said:

I propose a 2 yr 10 mil contract to Elumanor .

 

Because he's been more 'dependable', he's likely looking for something like 4 yr / 36 mill.

 

He's flirted with the Bengals and Burrow on twitter, which means he might take a discount. But not that big I predict. 

[Le Tigre]

There are reasons that OK-quality linemen (or players in general) are going to be available once this annual round of musical chairs begins. 
 

Not everything is “not enough money” either. Teams “move on” from their OK’s also because they are just OK…and that OK-ness “moves on” to other teams (like the Bengals). Lateral moves for both. 
 

If they likely pay close to the same amount for an OK Becton, etc., I always wonder why they just don’t keep the current OK Jonah? 
 

Just navel gazing. 

[Cricket]

2 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

 

Just navel gazing. 
 

[|BlackJesus|]

2 hours ago, Le Tigre said:

I always wonder why they just don’t keep the current OK Jonah? 

 

... Because Jonah is worth about 9 a year and likely thinks he's worth twice that at 18. 

[stryker57]

why dont we keep Jonah ??? did you think our OL play was acceptable? 

No!  there is your answer on Jonah.

 

so we blame the lack of a run game on the RB,

we dont blame the QB for  poor pass blocking

we also seem to blame the RB...., 

Do  you all seriously this just changing out Mixon and running the same 5 OL out again is going to fix everything? let  alone fix  anything? 

didnt we have pretty much the same 5 out there all year ?

well once the preseason was over and we let them play in live action on day 1 reg season..

the OL needs fixing. the only reason we seen any improvement from the start of the season to the end is because they sucked so bad in week 1. 

[Jamie_B]

1 hour ago, stryker57 said:

why dont we keep Jonah ??? did you think our OL play was acceptable? 

No!  there is your answer on Jonah.

 

so we blame the lack of a run game on the RB,

we dont blame the QB for  poor pass blocking

we also seem to blame the RB...., 

Do  you all seriously this just changing out Mixon and running the same 5 OL out again is going to fix everything? let  alone fix  anything? 

didnt we have pretty much the same 5 out there all year ?

well once the preseason was over and we let them play in live action on day 1 reg season..

the OL needs fixing. the only reason we seen any improvement from the start of the season to the end is because they sucked so bad in week 1. 

[Le Tigre]

22 hours ago, BlackJesus said:

 

... Because Jonah is worth about 9 a year and likely thinks he's worth twice that at 18. 

Alright…so what does that translate towards the other OK-or-less-quality replacements on the open market? 
 

 

[Le Tigre]

20 hours ago, stryker57 said:

why dont we keep Jonah ??? did you think our OL play was acceptable? 

No!  there is your answer on Jonah.

It was a hypothetical question, not an endorsement. 
 

If he is OK-or-less…you have to find an OK-or-better for replacement. And…because there is “no money”…they need to be “on the cheap”. Do any of the projected FA’s mentioned meet that criteria?