New Jersey Bengal Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 32 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: The plan and the players https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_oGEDBZnU6LESfPLyD8apeXSKI-OJ4Z8IWYd7YcnAsM/edit?usp=sharing QB-Nothing, maybe bring back McCarron after his Battlehawks tenure RB-Cut Mixon but likely bring him back. Lots of names on the list. I'd obviously love Barkley but not at his price. I assume they will cut Mixon and then feel out the market. If I am honest I can be talked into anyone but Mattison. Group A: Henry-Pollard-Barkley-Swift-Jacobs Group B: Moss Group C Gibson Group D Dillon-Singletary-Foreman-Edwards-Mattison-Ekeler WR-I'd sign a vet for the slot. The draft is deep but I think you can get a good deal on a slot guy Three layers here: Long term starter Darnell Mooney Flyer with high upside Paris Campbell Veteran on league minimum Jamal Agnew Deonte Harty Scotty Miller Braxton Berrios Tight End Long term Starter with upside Fant Short term starter 2-3 years settles the position Henry Everett 1 year starter where you could easily draft a TE early still Jonnu Smith-A pretty good fit with range to stretch the field still Logan Thomas-Played QB for Taylor Hayden Hurst Young flyer who would be starting for first time. Parkinson OL Center if you wanted to upgrade....I don't James-Raiders Cushenberry-Ex Burrow C Biadasz-Cowboys Tackles Starters where maybe you don't draft one early Onwenu Eluemonor Shorter term Starters Nijman Fant Wynn Fleming Flyer on a starter who could be long-term but is probably a bust Becton Nose Tackles-1 in FA, I want Reader back but don't expect it Davis Tart Jenkins-Raiders Jones-Bears Defensive Tackles-Would be nice to get one in FA Jones-Bills Roach-Saints Rankins-Texas Joseph-Day-49ers Kinlaw-49ers Autry-Titans Safeties and Corners-Too many to name. You want a fringe starter who is a veteran at both spots. They will probably wait until after the first few days and see what happens when the dust settles. I love Alohi Gillman. Again your work is insanely excellent you should work for the Bengals and they should pay you! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, texbengal said: Honestly, Fant doesn’t do it for me. His pro career has been meh. He’s got raw talent but really hasn’t ever put it together, and I’m doubtful as to whether he ever will. To be fair on Fant, he played in a crap offense in Denver and then a mediocre one that had DK, Lockett and eventually JSN on the outside in Seattle. You're not looking to replace many targets here and I think he's excellent with the ball in his hands after the catch. Much better than what the Bengals currently have and have had since Burrow has been here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 Bengals should try to sign a no-doubt, quality 4 year starter at either RT or NT. Then sign a vet as a bridge to a rookie at the other. We should just pay Hunter Henry or Gerald Everett their 6 mil along with re-signing Sample, Hudson, and Wilcox if they're cheap. We're not going to pay up for Simmons or Howard but adding at least 1 vet in the secondary is needed. It looks like Mixon is going to be cut, which is the right decision. We don't need to sign a vet RB, get someone younger. We should re-sign Irwin and our backup LBs. Also a backup IOL guy or two. Bengals have plenty of money to sign vets and upgrade a couple positions before the draft. Then we could take the best players each round without having to fill immediate needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, New Jersey Bengal said: Again your work is insanely excellent you should work for the Bengals and they should pay you! LOl. I am wrong almost every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 This guy is interesting to me. I always love these guys. https://www.nfl.com/news/promising-wales-star-louis-rees-zammit-quits-rugby-to-pursue-dream-of-playing-in-nfl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 On 3/6/2024 at 4:07 PM, MichaelWeston said: If they made a big splash in FA right away and went after a top guy who is that? I see really 2 options RT-Onwenu TE-Fant Maybe Barkley? Cushenberry is interesting Owenu 4 yr..54 mil..13.5 per.... Smith... 1 yr .7.5 per Or..........2 yr..12 mil.... Per .Spotrac.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 On 2/29/2024 at 11:47 AM, MichaelWeston said: I think we are sleeping on Hudson. His snaps to catch numbers were very high. Much higher than any FA in the class. Agree.. He and Sample stay . Wilcox or open spot left. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 7 Report Share Posted March 7 7 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: The plan and the players https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_oGEDBZnU6LESfPLyD8apeXSKI-OJ4Z8IWYd7YcnAsM/edit?usp=sharing QB-Nothing, maybe bring back McCarron after his Battlehawks tenure RB-Cut Mixon but likely bring him back. Lots of names on the list. I'd obviously love Barkley but not at his price. I assume they will cut Mixon and then feel out the market. If I am honest I can be talked into anyone but Mattison. Group A: Henry-Pollard-Barkley-Swift-Jacobs Group B: Moss Group C Gibson Group D Dillon-Singletary-Foreman-Edwards-Mattison-Ekeler WR-I'd sign a vet for the slot. The draft is deep but I think you can get a good deal on a slot guy Three layers here: Long term starter Darnell Mooney Flyer with high upside Paris Campbell Veteran on league minimum Jamal Agnew Deonte Harty Scotty Miller Braxton Berrios Tight End Long term Starter with upside Fant Short term starter 2-3 years settles the position Henry Everett 1 year starter where you could easily draft a TE early still Jonnu Smith-A pretty good fit with range to stretch the field still Logan Thomas-Played QB for Taylor Hayden Hurst Young flyer who would be starting for first time. Parkinson OL Center if you wanted to upgrade....I don't James-Raiders Cushenberry-Ex Burrow C Biadasz-Cowboys Tackles Starters where maybe you don't draft one early Onwenu Eluemonor Shorter term Starters Nijman Fant Wynn Fleming Flyer on a starter who could be long-term but is probably a bust Becton Nose Tackles-1 in FA, I want Reader back but don't expect it Davis Tart Jenkins-Raiders Jones-Bears Defensive Tackles-Would be nice to get one in FA Jones-Bills Roach-Saints Rankins-Texas Joseph-Day-49ers Kinlaw-49ers Autry-Titans Safeties and Corners-Too many to name. You want a fringe starter who is a veteran at both spots. They will probably wait until after the first few days and see what happens when the dust settles. I love Alohi Gillman. The best breakdown of the team needs. Absolutely 5 star stuff there. TKS... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 3 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: LOl. I am wrong almost every year. Hell we all are but what you contribute is beyond that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 43 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: The best breakdown of the team needs. Absolutely 5 star stuff there. TKS... This is Harvard PHD work for football fanatics for sure 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griever Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 6 minutes ago, New Jersey Bengal said: This is Harvard PHD work for football fanatics for sure Yep, work like this makes this board a pleasure to be a part of 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 James Rapien said someone reached out to him and said Tyron Smith wont play RT. He wont be the guy then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 2 hours ago, Jamie_B said: James Rapien said someone reached out to him and said Tyron Smith wont play RT. He wont be the guy then. I assumed not, Also assume Trent Brown wont..but he's played lots or RT and is 31 shortly. He should probably be included somewhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, MichaelWeston said: I assumed not, Also assume Trent Brown wont..but he's played lots or RT and is 31 shortly. He should probably be included somewhere. Also leaving off Curtis Samuel whom I assume makes a bigger contract. If not he fits very well in the slot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 11 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Tyron Smith wont play RT. He wont be the guy then. True. The Bengals gave OBj their word he could stay at LT where he believes he's honoring a promise he made to his late father. It was such a deal breaker for him he left KC for less money because of it. So Zac will continue to abide by that agreement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 What position do you have to get in FA? As in what can't wait until the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 Right tackle. Can’t take a glaring obvious need into the draft and not sure you can count on a rookie to line up across from Watt/Garrett week 1. Id be shocked if they weren’t thinking the same way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 1 minute ago, JC said: Right tackle. Can’t take a glaring obvious need into the draft and not sure you can count on a rookie to line up across from Watt/Garrett week 1. Id be shocked if they weren’t thinking the same way. Both DT and RT. I think they'll get both in FA... not that they won't look in the draft, just thinking they want vets in both spots. Still think Reader is the guy at DT, but could see them taking a shot at another, less expensive vet - like Tartt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 12 minutes ago, JC said: Right tackle. Can’t take a glaring obvious need into the draft and not sure you can count on a rookie to line up across from Watt/Garrett week 1. Id be shocked if they weren’t thinking the same way. I agree with the logic....But RT is the position most likely to have a stud at 18. So many Tackles in this draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 56 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: I agree with the logic....But RT is the position most likely to have a stud at 18. So many Tackles in this draft Be that as it may; however some body with at least a modicum of experienced quality is a “right now” need. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 8 Report Share Posted March 8 5 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: What position do you have to get in FA? As in what can't wait until the draft? Biggest current needs are starters at RT, NT, TE, WR3 plus maybe CB or FS. This draft is definitely deeper on the offensive side than defense. But it has some DT and CB prospects. I don't see a free agent RT who is a substantial upgrade from Jonah and who the Bengals are willing to pay. So I think we are looking for a short term vet for coverage and the long term solution in the draft. For NT, there are veteran options in free agency, maybe including bringing back Reader. Likewise at TE and WR3 and CB and S. IMO comp picks aren't worth worrying about but if the Bengals disagree, they may limit themselves to players who have been cut so they can get a 4th rounder for Jonah if he gets a rich contract somewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Time to collect the LSU infinity stones ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Flat NO! to CEH. White can't stay healthy these days. Marshall would be ok but probably isn't as good as Irwin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 9 Report Share Posted March 9 Cody Ford back. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/cody-ford-stays-with-bengals-with-new-one-year-contract 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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