SmoothD Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 2 hours ago, spicoli said: The top 3 won't be Bengals next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 36 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Just for shits and giggles I went to the Packers home page - they have 20 people in their personnel department, Bengals have 8. No chance to compete with the better teams Jesus, then go AWAY and become a Packers fan. Your incessant whining and childish jokes are pathetic and beyond tired. The Packers would love to have you on their bandwagon I’m sure, so have at it...for all of our sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, spicoli said: Jesus, then go AWAY and become a Packers fan. Your incessant whining and childish jokes are pathetic and beyond tired. The Packers would love to have you on their bandwagon I’m sure, so have at it...for all of our sakes. Not as tired as the Mike Brown show.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInTO Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, SmoothD said: The top 3 won't be Bengals next year I actually hope you're right but, I cannot see the Bengals eating $5.2 million in dead cap to walk away from Geno Atkins next year. Don't re-sign AJ = Right Move (and likely to occur). Cut Carlos Dunlap = Right Move (and could possibly occur). There are a number of moves the Bengals could make next year to crank up their cap space. Releasing Dunlap ($11.25 million savings), Bobby Hart ($5.9 million savings) and Bernard ($4.1 million savings) would clear an additional $21.25 million in cap space with little dead cap but, this ain't Madden and we ain't the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, BengalFanInTO said: I actually hope you're right but, I cannot see the Bengals eating $5.2 million in dead cap to walk away from Geno Atkins next year. Don't re-sign AJ = Right Move (and likely to occur). Cut Carlos Dunlap = Right Move (and could possibly occur). There are a number of moves the Bengals could make next year to crank up their cap space. Releasing Dunlap ($11.25 million savings), Bobby Hart ($5.9 million savings) and Bernard ($4.1 million savings) would clear an additional $21.25 million in cap space with little dead cap but, this ain't Madden and we ain't the Patriots. Theyll have to sign some others on the last year or lockup longterm.. Jesse Bates..William Jackson come to mind... And theyre not staying here on the cheap.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Not as tired as the Mike Brown show.... Who cares? The fans that have been here in Cincinnati for the last 30+ years or more know full well what the "Mike Brown show" is all about, we have no desire to have it thrown in our faces everyday from some douchebag "fan" that doesn't even live in this country. Like I said, I'm sure Packer fans would love to add you to their bandwagon...make the leap why don't ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, spicoli said: Who cares? The fans that have been here in Cincinnati for the last 30+ years or more know full well what the "Mike Brown show" is all about, we have no desire to have it thrown in our faces everyday from some douchebag "fan" that doesn't even live in this country. Like I said, I'm sure Packer fans would love to add you to their bandwagon...make the leap why don't ya? Whew!....glad thats off your chest now.. I.C.Is discouraged in the team failure.. Hes venting.. Let him get it out like you just did .. I see no reason to insult a fan outside of the country.. And so it goes on here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, claptonrocks said: Whew!....glad thats off your chest now.. I.C.Is discouraged in the team failure.. Hes venting.. Let him get it out like you just did .. I see no reason to insult a fan outside of the country.. He’s literally been “getting it out” for years...it NEVER ends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, spicoli said: Who cares? The fans that have been here in Cincinnati for the last 30+ years or more know full well what the "Mike Brown show" is all about, we have no desire to have it thrown in our faces everyday from some douchebag "fan" that doesn't even live in this country. Like I said, I'm sure Packer fans would love to add you to their bandwagon...make the leap why don't ya? Maybe chill a bit? What is it with the uber positive folks losing their minds on folks that are fed up with the organization? Sorry everyone doesn’t think like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, spicoli said: He’s literally been “getting it out” for years...it NEVER ends! Lol...you both are good posters.. Carry on my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: Maybe chill a bit? What is it with the uber positive folks losing their minds on folks that are fed up with the organization? Sorry everyone doesn’t think like you. You all have been harping on the same shit for years....what has it gotten ya? Do you honestly believe that someone that has been a fan of this team for 37 years doesn’t fully understand what the situation is? We are ALL fully aware. Why does it have to dwelled upon ad nauseam? I’m not positive about this team as a whole because of ownership, that doesn’t mean I can’t have a positive outlook about each game, on a week by week basis. It does me no good to hold onto shit I have no control of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, spicoli said: You all have been harping on the same shit for years....what has it gotten ya? Do you honestly believe that someone that has been a fan of this team for 37 years doesn’t fully understand what the situation is? We are ALL fully aware. Why does it have to dwelled upon ad nauseam? I’m not positive about this team as a whole because of ownership, that doesn’t mean I can’t have a positive outlook about each game, on a week by week basis. It does me no good to hold onto shit I have no control of. That’s just not what I’m about. I can see that.. Maybe week by week is a better method to have some fuckin ray of hope... Man its hard to be optomistic when they let us down every week.. Being a realist sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 38 minutes ago, spicoli said: You all have been harping on the same shit for years....what has it gotten ya? Do you honestly believe that someone that has been a fan of this team for 37 years doesn’t fully understand what the situation is? We are ALL fully aware. Why does it have to dwelled upon ad nauseam? I’m not positive about this team as a whole because of ownership, that doesn’t mean I can’t have a positive outlook about each game, on a week by week basis. It does me no good to hold onto shit I have no control of. That’s just not what I’m about. Good for you. Some of us prefer to express our frustration. Frankly, I find boundless optimism about the Bengals to be foolish and silly, but I choose not to rain on your parade. You do you. The rest of us will do the same. Try dealing with it like a grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted October 13, 2020 Report Share Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: Frankly, I find boundless optimism about the Bengals to be foolish and silly, but I choose not to rain on your parade. Yeah I'm just chock full of "boundless optimism" lol. Gimme a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, spicoli said: Yeah I'm just chock full of "boundless optimism" lol. Gimme a break. You do come accross as an optomist for a shit team than most but i admire your style for dealing with it.. I also like realists posts and if they see for what it is an express it thats ok too. We're all Bengal fans...bottem line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotto Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 hours ago, BengalFanInTO said: Bernard ($4.1 million savings) Why is he not earning his salary? Good guy & solid citizen. Has the game past him? We need a second back, two back sets, get him out there and earn his cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spotto Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 hours ago, spicoli said: Who cares? The fans that have been here in Cincinnati for the last 30+ years or more know full well what the "Mike Brown show" is all about, we have no desire to have it thrown in our faces everyday from some douchebag "fan" that doesn't even live in this country. A fan is a fan, doesn't matter where you live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Spotto said: A fan is a fan, doesn't matter where you live. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengalFanInTO Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 13 hours ago, Spotto said: Why is he not earning his salary? Good guy & solid citizen. Has the game past him? We need a second back, two back sets, get him out there and earn his cash. That's clearly not going to happen. The Bengals (and almost no NFL teams) use two back sets. RB is already a very undervalued position as far as where teams spend their money. Almost $5 million on your 3rd down back is not a good investment. Is Gio a good fella? Sure. Team captain? Yup. Solid pass blocker? Uh huh. Worth $5 million per year when you have so many other needs? Nope. That has been the Bengals folly for years. Faithful to good guys and players who have stuck around. I like Gio. I really do. His $5 million is just better spent elsewhere (especially when they're already paying Mixon $10 million). He can be replaced in the middle of the draft or, by a player already on the team. Don't worry though, it's not going to happen. The Bengals don't make moves like that. He'll be back next year, likely with both Carlos and Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 Yeah, Gio is an example of the team overpaying for loyalty. Bobby Hart and CJ Uzomah would be others. Geno and Carlos aren't examples of that, they got market value deals that were fair at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 43 minutes ago, BengalFanInTO said: That's clearly not going to happen. The Bengals (and almost no NFL teams) use two back sets. RB is already a very undervalued position as far as where teams spend their money. Almost $5 million on your 3rd down back is not a good investment. Is Gio a good fella? Sure. Team captain? Yup. Solid pass blocker? Uh huh. Worth $5 million per year when you have so many other needs? Nope. That has been the Bengals folly for years. Faithful to good guys and players who have stuck around. I like Gio. I really do. His $5 million is just better spent elsewhere (especially when they're already paying Mixon $10 million). He can be replaced in the middle of the draft or, by a player already on the team. Don't worry though, it's not going to happen. The Bengals don't make moves like that. He'll be back next year, likely with both Carlos and Geno. Yeah I dont see paying a back 5mil for 4 or 5 carries a game.. Hell Treyveon Williams is allmost a clone of Gio with better blocking abilities..on rookie contract too. Dunlap Green Shaun Williams and Gio will go freeing up cap money Like a poster said..Geno's release would leave over 5mil dead money so he'll be back.. Truthfully i want Geno back to team with Reader... We are thin there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 On the positive side (take note Spicoli, this is for you!) - this offseason we actually saw the team NOT re-sign their own scrubs, like Vigil, just because we drafted them. Not a trend yet but a step in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: Yeah I dont see paying a back 5mil for 4 or 5 carries a game.. Of course, we COULD give him more carries. Has he actually shown that he can’t do it? Seems like he does okay on what fee carries he gets (Should be receiving the ball more). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Cricket said: Of course, we COULD give him more carries. Has he actually shown that he can’t do it? Seems like he does okay on what fee carries he gets (Should be receiving the ball more). I would use him more but the Bengals want it in the hands of Mixon and I cant fault that... Gio will be gone after this srason and Treyveon Williams should take his role..hes a better blocker too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted October 14, 2020 Report Share Posted October 14, 2020 18 hours ago, Spotto said: A fan is a fan, doesn't matter where you live. Except Collingwood 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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