WRAPradio 293 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 If it costs #5 and our 3rd rounder, would you move up to #3 to get Sewell? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 4 minutes ago, WRAPradio said: If it costs #5 and our 3rd rounder, would you move up to #3 to get Sewell? Your talking Miami here to trade with no? Theyll have to want Chase at 5 . Maybe they pass and go Sewell and get a good receiver in 2nd round.. Id do it but i doubt Miami will. Im thinking theyll protect Tua with Sewell now and either sign or draft a receiver .. Theyre in a good position ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spicoli 592 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Only if they were to have a blockbuster FA period. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HavePityPlease 353 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Your talking Miami here to trade with no? Theyll have to want Chase at 5 . Maybe they pass and go Sewell and get a good receiver in 2nd round.. Id do it but i doubt Miami will. Im thinking theyll protect Tua with Sewell now and either sign or draft a receiver .. Theyre in a good position ... Just remember that in that case they'd ostensibly be taking him to play RT, which may or may not decrease his perceived value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 26 minutes ago, HavePityPlease said: Just remember that in that case they'd ostensibly be taking him to play RT, which may or may not decrease his perceived value. Hes going to be somebodys LT . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,696 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 No thanks. That 3rd round pick has a good chance of being a better OL in the long run than Sewell. Before anyone starts sputtering, that's just the nature of the draft & it happens all the time. Don't make me go dig up those posts about how John Ross was going to change the NFL. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HavePityPlease 353 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 47 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Hes going to be somebodys LT . Well, it might be that Miami thinks he can play RT just as well (or better) than LT and they're happy to take him. My only point is you draft OT's that high to be blind-side protectors, or else (at least in any logical sense) it's a waste of the value. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,180 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 The one position that has had the highest incidence of success on draft day is WR then offensive lineman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WRAPradio 293 Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 As much as I want Sewell, we need too much and I’d hate to trade a high pick to get him. We need a guard as well and there are other good tackles in this draft. Now, no one knows if they’ll fall to the 2nd round or not, but we have lots of holes to fill on the online and on defense. I wouldn’t hate it if we trade up to get him, but I wouldn’t pull the trigger on a trade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jamie_B 3,274 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I agree it depdends on how FA went. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, HavePityPlease said: Well, it might be that Miami thinks he can play RT just as well (or better) than LT and they're happy to take him. My only point is you draft OT's that high to be blind-side protectors, or else (at least in any logical sense) it's a waste of the value. Well since Tua is Lefthanded a RT would protect his blindside.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HavePityPlease 353 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 26 minutes ago, claptonrocks said: Well since Tua is Lefthanded a RT would protect his blindside.. Exactly, that's what I mean... the question is Sewell less able to play RT than LT (which I don't think any of us can rightly answer - but they will try to). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 467 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Our personnel department will no doubt make the right call on moving up or down from the 5 slot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,696 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 8 hours ago, WRAPradio said: As much as I want Sewell, we need too much and I’d hate to trade a high pick to get him. We need a guard as well By my count we need 2 OT's at least one OG and a Center. OR we could do the usual thing where we expect guys to all recover perfectly from a season-ending injury and never, ever get hurt again. And then act like it's bad luck instead of a lack of planning when they do. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelWeston 1,528 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, T-Dub said: By my count we need 2 OT's at least one OG and a Center. OR we could do the usual thing where we expect guys to all recover perfectly from a season-ending injury and never, ever get hurt again. And then act like it's bad luck instead of a lack of planning when they do. I couldn't love this post more. We do this every year. Signed XSF---A guard who has only every played LG and pretty badly.....well I guess the RG position is completely settled and we don't need anyone else..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sparky151 531 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 A trade wouldn't be completed until pick 3 is on the clock. But I'd be inclined to agree to trade 5 and our 3rd rounder for pick 3 if Sewell is available. It simplifies offseason planning and let's us focus on guard in FA. If we're looking for an OT in FA, he will be expensive. I'd rather give up a 3rd and get Sewell than pay 16.5 mil for Moton. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,696 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 20 minutes ago, sparky151 said: A trade wouldn't be completed until pick 3 is on the clock. But I'd be inclined to agree to trade 5 and our 3rd rounder for pick 3 if Sewell is available. It simplifies offseason planning and let's us focus on guard in FA. If we're looking for an OT in FA, he will be expensive. I'd rather give up a 3rd and get Sewell than pay 16.5 mil for Moton. Moton will get $16.5 M or thereabouts because he has proven he can play OT at a consistently high level in the NFL. That aside, why should I care how much he's paid? It's not like I get to pocket the difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WRAPradio 293 Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 4 hours ago, T-Dub said: By my count we need 2 OT's at least one OG and a Center. OR we could do the usual thing where we expect guys to all recover perfectly from a season-ending injury and never, ever get hurt again. And then act like it's bad luck instead of a lack of planning when they do. Jonah Williams Q. Spain Hopkins XSF Orange Cone Hart Williams and Spain are solid. Hopkins tore his ACL in that last game. We need a tackle to replace Hart, a center in case Hopkins isn't ready and a guard to compete with XSF. Draft a tackle (hopefully Sewell), sign a center/guard in FA and you've go one more spot to fill, hopefully with a vet. I don't think we want 3 rookies protecting Burrow next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WRAPradio 293 Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 2 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Moton will get $16.5 M or thereabouts because he has proven he can play OT at a consistently high level in the NFL. That aside, why should I care how much he's paid? It's not like I get to pocket the difference. It affects what other players we can sign. One of the issues this year, IMO, is how much money we had tied up in the RB and WR positions. I think we were top 5 at both positions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,696 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 22 minutes ago, WRAPradio said: Williams (is) solid He's played in 10 of a possible 32 games due to injuries. I guess that qualifies as solid by Bengals standards? 24 minutes ago, WRAPradio said: Draft a tackle (hopefully Sewell), sign a center/guard in FA and you've go one more spot to fill, hopefully with a vet. Assuming everyone (including Williams) stays healthy all year. Quote I don't think we want 3 rookies protecting Burrow next year. Wait, since when? I was assured that drafting someone in the top 10 guarantees a top tier pro performance in their rookie season and we should confidently bet the farm on them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SmoothD 134 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I haven't been impressed with Jonah Williams playing tackle since his arrival. I actually believe he would be a better guard than a tackle. I would move up to 3 to take Sewell and offer our 5th and a mid round pick (3-5) in next year's draft to Miami. I'd replace Hart with Fred Johnson who has shown promise and has great size (6'7 330 lbs) I think he needs better coaching and technique (Willie Anderson) and he would make a fine RT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 680 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 17 minutes ago, SmoothD said: I haven't been impressed with Jonah Williams playing tackle since his arrival. I actually believe he would be a better guard than a tackle. I would move up to 3 to take Sewell and offer our 5th and a mid round pick (3-5) in next year's draft to Miami. I'd replace Hart with Fred Johnson who has shown promise and has great size (6'7 330 lbs) I think he needs better coaching and technique (Willie Anderson) and he would make a fine RT Agree about Williams. He's no lock as a competent LT. I don't think there is any way Miami agrees to just a third to move up. If they know a team wants to move up they are going to make them pay. Not worth it. Fred has shown little. He's a backup at best. They need two OTs. One that can play immediately and one that could play soon, thus one from the draft and one from FA. I was OK with Spain. He makes some coin, so I would expect him to start. They definitely need depth at guard. I think the Michael Jordan era ends with Turner's departure. I think Hopkins is solid at C if he doesn't have to worry about the two guys to the right and left of him. Getting a decent OL coach will help with everyone understanding the calls and assignments. Hopefully he comes back OK. Most linemen do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 467 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 The team will get this fixed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 342 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Lets fix the Oline first and foremost. If this could play out my plan would be.. Trade 5 and 3rd round to get Sewell. Sign Moten. 16.5 mil.. The line would be .. Sewell Williams Hopkins Spain Moten.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ValleyBengal 101 Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 On 1/6/2021 at 8:36 PM, T-Dub said: No thanks. That 3rd round pick has a good chance of being a better OL in the long run than Sewell. Before anyone starts sputtering, that's just the nature of the draft & it happens all the time. Don't make me go dig up those posts about how John Ross was going to change the NFL. Or you can end up picking someone like Sean Brewer. The later rounds are bigger crap shoots than the first 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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