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3 hours ago, sparky151 said:

 

Apparently there is a proposal that professional athletes under contract with professional teams be excluded from the State of Ohio's worker comp system. The NFL CBA still requires teams to provide coverage so the Bengals seem to be proposing privately supplied coverage. Not sure if the bill has any chance of passing or what other pro sports teams say about it. 

I work with a lot of public/governmental organizations nationwide, and only a handful of states are state-mandated “sole remedy” Workers Comp ones. Ohio, of course, is one of them. I see the other states with either hybrid state/private consortiums or direct private insuring on competition basis. 
 

Ohio does allow for “private insurance” for employers-but IIRC, it is for those with 500 or more employees. The Bengals/Browns combined may not meet that threshold. 
 

In any event— I would be quite interested in seeing what plans MB has to achieve the private insurance route. Generally, private insurance can be tailored with better flexibility, better benefits, and lower cost compared to that of straight bureau administered. And, if the main concern is going to be long-term disability claims by long-retired players, there would be private plans catered to that need. 
 

Going this route certainly isn’t “stripping coverage” from players—as the union is bloviating about. 

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oh i can understand any unions hesitation over any ownership controlling disability benefits .  things tend to be shown as equal when it starts then they turn into lawyer talk over details. and what happens if after 10-15 years the bengals go bankrupt or lock out the union , does someone on disabily insurance  suddenly lose their coverage? 

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8 hours ago, stryker57 said:

does someone on disabily insurance  suddenly lose their coverage? 

Not if the injury occurred during the program term. If that is the case, it wouldn’t matter if the entire NFL collapsed.

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27 minutes ago, westside bengal said:

If the Bengals cut Mixon and Collins, how much total do they have to spend in free agency?

 

From: https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cincinnati-bengals

 

Total Cap Liabilities: $195,722,782

Top 51: $191,379,778

Team Cap Space: $33,786,354

 

Pre-June 1 Cut Savings

Joe Mixon: $7,291,176

La'el Collins: $6,050,979

 

Post-June 1 Cut Savings

Joe Mixon: $10.041,176

La'el Collins: $7,717,647

 

So roughly $46M to $50M depending on when they would be cut.

 

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30 minutes ago, BBR said:

 

 

 

So roughly $46M to $50M depending on when they would be cut.

 

 

 

You know Hobson will say it's at least $20m below that. See there's the rookies, and potential injuries, and of course JB..

 

In fact, let me hold $20?  😆

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3 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

TJ Edwards first off the board. The LB got 3 years 19.5 from the bears. 

LB Quincy Williams just got 3 years 18 million from the Jets. 

 

I have to believe those are doable numbers for Pratt to return. 

 

I wonder if the issue with Pratt is actually money. 

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28 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said:

TJ Edwards first off the board. The LB got 3 years 19.5 from the bears. 

LB Quincy Williams just got 3 years 18 million from the Jets. 

 

I have to believe those are doable numbers for Pratt to return. 

 

They are if you were just talking about Pratt.  The reality is both Pratt and Wilson will command numbers like this.  Wilson is up next year.  Can they afford both at this price?  If not, which one do they want?  Love them both, but in today's NFL the coverage guy is worth more, IMO.

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31 minutes ago, UncleEarl said:

 

They are if you were just talking about Pratt.  The reality is both Pratt and Wilson will command numbers like this.  Wilson is up next year.  Can they afford both at this price?  If not, which one do they want?  Love them both, but in today's NFL the coverage guy is worth more, IMO.

 

I agree with that. At times I've thought the team was over invested in pass rushers. The NFL (and apparently fans) want to see superstar QBs hucking it down field. OL holding is routinely ignored which makes those specialists less valuable. They still make plays but it's rare now to see officials let them take over a game.  There's a reason Derrick Thomas's single game sack record (8) has stood for over 30 years and it's definitely not because the players all got worse. Last season no one got (I'm saying were allowed to get) more than 3. The games are being called differently. A pass rush still matters but gets negated far too often now.

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34 minutes ago, UncleEarl said:

 

They are if you were just talking about Pratt.  The reality is both Pratt and Wilson will command numbers like this.  Wilson is up next year.  Can they afford both at this price?  If not, which one do they want?  Love them both, but in today's NFL the coverage guy is worth more, IMO.

Wilson, I bel;ieve is seen more of a leader than Pratt which will make a huge diffeence. Didn't Pratt want to go somewhere where he could play all 3 downs?

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