scharm Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 did you catch what mayock said about elam? something along the lines of "the only problem with elam is he's too short, and there's nothing he can do about that". lifts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Wilcots on the radio this morning. I have no idea who his source is or how up to date his info was. He was hearing Andre has decided to fold and he expects him to be back with bengals. 1. Talked a whole bunch about a great fit Ogletree would be for Bengals. 2. Referenced a conversation with Mike Brown about he mentioned Bengals always used to be stocked with RB in 80s/90s. M. Brown said they would get back to that thought you needed an army or RBs and CBs. There you go. Something to chew on. I personally would not have a problem in the first 4 picks if it was flooded with RB, LB, and DB. I say DB instead specific position like CB and S because I that will be a situational role and believe that is what our LB crew cold become. Lot of subbing and mix and match pending situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis_Bengal Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 He was just saying that he'd rather have Swearinger in the second instead of taking Reid in round 1. Not in chronological order. I'm not exactly sure what your gig of caling people out while adding nothing to the conversation is, but it's gotten old. And in an ironic twist, I've now stooped to that level so I'll have to put myself on ignore too I guess... I'm at least happy that we'll be gettigng SOMEONE to play SS. That someone has to be better than Taylor Mays or the unsigned Chris Crocker. I only hope that whoever that person is can become a vocal leader we need and get people lined up like Crock did.... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Dude, we gave up a 7th round pick for Mays and Iloka was a fifth round pick. And neither one has seen much playing time, if any. How do you equate that to an obsession? How tall have our starting safeties been the last few years? Barely six foot? Zimmer wanted to trade up to get Mays. Marvin has made it clear about what it takes to play in their division. These coaches are size kings. Bottom line, Elam is 5-9 and won't be a Bengal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Zimmer wanted to trade up to get Mays. Marvin has made it clear about what it takes to play in their division. These coaches are size kings. Bottom line, Elam is 5-9 and won't be a Bengal. Elam is less than an inch shorter than Crocker, who's spot they are looking to fill. If they think Elam is the most worthy of the pick, he'll be a Bengal. His height won't keep them, or any team from taking him high. Height is a bonus, but teams care most about whether you can cover, and support the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Elam is less than an inch shorter than Crocker, who's spot they are looking to fill. If they think Elam is the most worthy of the pick, he'll be a Bengal. His height won't keep them, or any team from taking him high. Height is a bonus, but teams care most about whether you can cover, and support the run. I like Elam slightly more than Reid myself. But I still think Cincinnati will select either Reid or Lacy with their first pick. There's still a chance that Vaccaro slides, though. All it would really take is one or two surprises in the teens for Vaccaro to suddenly be available at 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis_Bengal Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 What does everyone keep saying Elam is 5'9? Everything I see says 5'10 including NFL.com which I assume is based on his combine measurements. I see here he is 5097 which means he is closer to 5'10 than 5'9 http://nflsfuture.com/2013/04/10/matt-elam-scouting-report/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 interesting to keep hearing people call Justin Hunter "AJ Green Lite" I've always thought he's more like Chris Henry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiliMVP Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 What does everyone keep saying Elam is 5'9? Everything I see says 5'10 including NFL.com which I assume is based on his combine measurements. His official height at the combine was 5'9 7/8ths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I like Elam slightly more than Reid myself. But I still think Cincinnati will select either Reid or Lacy with their first pick. There's still a chance that Vaccaro slides, though. All it would really take is one or two surprises in the teens for Vaccaro to suddenly be available at 21. yea I rank Elam higher, but am starting to think Reid might be the better fit based on how they use their safeties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Wilcots on the radio this morning. I have no idea who his source is or how up to date his info was. He was hearing Andre has decided to fold and he expects him to be back with bengals. 1. Talked a whole bunch about a great fit Ogletree would be for Bengals. 2. Referenced a conversation with Mike Brown about he mentioned Bengals always used to be stocked with RB in 80s/90s. M. Brown said they would get back to that thought you needed an army or RBs and CBs. There you go. Something to chew on. I personally would not have a problem in the first 4 picks if it was flooded with RB, LB, and DB. I say DB instead specific position like CB and S because I that will be a situational role and believe that is what our LB crew cold become. Lot of subbing and mix and match pending situation. Wilcots also said on NFL Network that the Browns could draft "Sonny" Vaccaro, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 You know...after 121 pages...it is safe to say, the Bengals will get a very good football player at #21. About all you can ask for in the draft. And we will all have the pick elevated to Canton-levels by the end of the night anyway...so I will already proclaim the night a rousing success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Wilcots also said on NFL Network that the Browns could draft "Sonny" Vaccaro, so there's that. That would seem sillier that grabbing that CB they keep giving them. The team needs playmakers on offense more than DBs in the first round. Or pass rush if they go defense. Or, god help them, a QB again, Nothing against these players, but with Haden and a decent S already, they can go CB later to fill in the backfield. They already are losing games 20-10. Losing 17-7 isn't much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 When I type on my phone it autocorrects "than" to "then". So while most smart people could understand i meant Id rather take swearinger in the 2nd "than" reid in the 1st, since it came out "then" it was harder for him to understand. Stupid autocorrect. Why would autocorrect do that? It's not like "than" is not a word. Not calling you a liar, I just think it's strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Why would autocorrect do that? It's not like "than" is not a word. Not calling you a liar, I just think it's strange. my ipad autocorrect's real words all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 my ipad autocorrect's real words all the time. So does my surface, its annoying as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turningpoint Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Weird my Blackberry 5.0 doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I would not hate Lacy if its the pick AT ALL. It's hard to hate on the #1 RB in the draft. I know I read Marvin say something about size of safties in an article recently so I would be surprised if its Elam, but Reid is likely if Vaccaro isnt there, if they do go Lacy in 1, I would not hate it AT ALL if they went Cyprien and Brown in 2, in fact the idea of those 3 gives me a little wood. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Does Gosselin not do mocks anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBandJoeyV Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Why would autocorrect do that? It's not like "than" is not a word. Not calling you a liar, I just think it's strange. I must use then more than I use than. Then my phone thinks I'm saying then instead of than, then it autocorrects than to then. Then it's confusions because then people think I mean then when I really mean than, then they get smarkier than hell. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Does Gosselin not do mocks anymore? Nope - he hasn't for 2 years. He's not NFL Beat Writer any more... he's a sports columnist, so he does all sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigris Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 He was just saying that he'd rather have Swearinger in the second instead of taking Reid in round 1. Not in chronological order. I'm not exactly sure what your gig of caling people out while adding nothing to the conversation is, but it's gotten old. And in an ironic twist, I've now stooped to that level so I'll have to put myself on ignore too I guess... I'm at least happy that we'll be gettigng SOMEONE to play SS. That someone has to be better than Taylor Mays or the unsigned Chris Crocker. I only hope that whoever that person is can become a vocal leader we need and get people lined up like Crock did.... :lol: Someone has to say something every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 my ipad autocorrect's real words all the time. Yeah. Because of autocorrect, I accidentally told some girl I couldn't wait to stick my Duck in her Puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yeah. Because of autocorrect, I accidentally told some girl I couldn't wait to stick my Duck in her Puppy. yea, sure, the autocorrect wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Dr Tarzan| Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 I've always thought he's more like Chris Henry. He looks and plays like a Henry clone to my eyes...nothing at all like AJ. That said, wouldn't mind seeing him in stripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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