cincybengalz Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 2m Steelers will release LB LaMarr Woodley at 4 ET Tuesday, designate him a post June 1 casualty, per source. He will be free to sign Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 He had one year that he was a monster and wasn't that impressive otherwise. If Zimmer were here I'd be 100% for it because of his penchant to turn around guys that were has beens or never weres, with Gunther I don't know what he is capable of in that regard. If were going to lose Vinnie Rey then I'd take a look here though. Still might be worth kicking the tires on even if we don't lose Rey. As both Ray M and James H are playing in their contract year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 No thanks. Once he got paid he disappeared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Not sure on that one. Obviously he was playing in a 3-4 before, but I think he's strong enough to play 4-3 DE. He kinda disappeared and has had some injury issues, too. Wouldn't love it, wouldn't hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 No thanks. Once he got paid he disappeared.he was playing great football last year until he hurt his calf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 The year he had the good stats, wasn't that when everyone was worried about James Harrison on the other side? You have to wonder if he's a scheme guy more that a great talent that can work in any scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 The year he had the good stats, wasn't that when everyone was worried about James Harrison on the other side? You have to wonder if he's a scheme guy more that a great talent that can work in any scheme. Yes that year they were both playing like monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 he was playing great football last year until he hurt his calf. Once they decided they had to keep Worilds, they had to jettison some contracts. The Transition tender to Worilds means nothing, they are going to have to pay some jack to keep him. Woodley can play, flat out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Pittsburgh thought so little of him they ate over $14M in dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 I'd add him just to piss of Steeler fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Pittsburgh thought so little of him they ate over $14M in dead money. Looks as though it didn't matter if he was on the team or not. Some other "deals" they made with others helped paint them into a corner: LaMarr Woodley is about to become one of the most expensive ex-Steelers in team history. The Steelers will release the former Pro Bowl outside linebacker -- one who is coming off three consecutive injury-interrupted seasons -- after June 1, a move that will allow them to defer part of Woodley's dead money salary cap hit until 2015. Woodley was told Monday of the decision, which was confirmed by his representatives. Because Woodley will be a post-June 1 cut -- as former Steelers offensive lineman Willie Colon was a season ago -- the Steelers cannot officially announce the move until 4 p.m. Tuesday. Woodley is free to sign with any team after that time. After Woodley spent most of the second half of the 2013 season injured and unable to play, and former backup Jason Worilds had a breakthrough half-season, the Steelers designated Worilds as their transition player. The move guarantees Worilds $9.754 million this season, unless he signs a multi-year contract that both sides want. The Woodley decision also means that 2013 first-round pick Jarvis Jones, who will be tutored by new assistant Joey Porter, is all but certain to start in 2014. The Steelers will not have to pay the remaining $25.5 million in salary on the $61.5 million, six-year contract Woodley signed in 2011. His salary cap hit of $13.59 million in 2014 will be reduced to $5.6 million, but he will count an additional $8.5 million against their 2015 cap. Woodley's $14.1 million in dead money -- which counts against the cap whether he is on the team or not -- increased by about $10 million as Woodley restructured his contract the last two seasons. Woodley, a second-round draft pick in 2007, has 57 sacks in seven seasons, including 52 in his first six seasons -- the most in Steelers history during such a span. But he has only 18 sacks since signing his 2011 contract, which made him the highest-paid defensive player in Steelers history. He was a Pro Bowl player and a second-team All-Pro in 2009. Woodley has missed 16 games and part of four others over the last three seasons. He had five sacks in the first six games last season, but didn't have another one while missing much of the second half of the season with calf injuries in both legs -- a layoff that allowed Worilds to move into the lineup and thrive. When Woodley returned late in the season, he moved from left outside linebacker -- the position he'd always played with the Steelers -- to the right side to accommodate Worilds, who enjoyed his breakout half-season playing on the left side. Woodley and James Harrison, the star outside linebackers on the Steelers' 2008 and 2010 Super Bowl teams, have left the team in less than a year. Harrison was cut last season after the Steelers could not rework his contract and he signed with the division rival Bengals. Woodley will turn 30 on Nov. 3, or about midway through the 2014 season. He immediately becomes one of the best pass rushers available on the free agent market. Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/5739400-74/woodley-million-steelers#ixzz2vb0BV2bY Follow us: @triblive on Twitter | triblive on Facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarkster Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 What are we becoming? The Home for Old Steroid Users? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Alice Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 Pittsburgh thought so little of him they ate over $14M in dead money. In the last three years, the Steelers have become the Redskins of the AFC. Their cap "management" has been ridiculous and it doesn't appear to be getting any better. The best part is watching Ben Roethlisberger's cap number get bigger and bigger while he gets older and older. At some point, that's going to hit critical mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 How is this even a question? Hell no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted March 10, 2014 Report Share Posted March 10, 2014 So the Steelers will be paying "Not Lamar Woodley" 5 million and 8 million the next two years. The other question you'd have to ask if you are a Steeler player is just how much of these contracts will you actually see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 In the last three years, the Steelers have become the Redskins of the AFC. Their cap "management" has been ridiculous and it doesn't appear to be getting any better. The best part is watching Ben Roethlisberger's cap number get bigger and bigger while he gets older and older. At some point, that's going to hit critical mass. The funny part is that while Roethlisberger has big cap hits this year and next from prior restructurings, his salary is below average and he wants a raise. They'll probably have to give him an extension just for cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 I would kick the tires on him and see what he has left. When's healthy and on his game, he's a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkansas Bengal Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 No thanks--we already have one washed up stealer LB in Harrison... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Quick question for the cap guru's: What is going to happen in the future to the Steelers in regards to the cap. They keep kicking it down the road, but with the cap increasing, will it even matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bammorrisgotmehigh Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Helped to bring two AFCCs and sealed SB43 with the Kurt Warner open hand fumble so I will salute him. Man that defense was sick but time goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The PatternMaster Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Quick question for the cap guru's: What is going to happen in the future to the Steelers in regards to the cap. They keep kicking it down the road, but with the cap increasing, will it even matter? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/cap-hit/2014/ Adjust the year and you can see they will be in good shape in the up coming years. In 2015 they have over 76 million towards the cap and by 2016 they should be in great shape. Cutting guys like Woodley and Colon were necessary steps to helping them get their financial house in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|westside bengal| Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 i would rather have Hedley Lamarr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanvilleBengal Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Quick question for the cap guru's: What is going to happen in the future to the Steelers in regards to the cap. They keep kicking it down the road, but with the cap increasing, will it even matter? I'm not a cap guru by any means, but common sense would tell you that they would bite the bullet sooner or later. It's like with the economy. We can believe that even though the cap will expand every year, I have to say that there are gonna be times where the cap will either stay constant, go up at a lesser rate than expected, or potentially drop. It's like with Credit cards. They're great to have if you keep it controlled or at least pay your bill, but if you are constantly maxing your cards all the time, or decide to have a payment forgiven for some weird reason, at some point the credit card company is gonna want you to pay up---in one way or another. I figured that out the hard way about credit cards while in college, thankfully, I'm only down to just one card, and it's a card that I can pay off for the most part each month. Hardly use it too, I put it away in a place where it's a chore for me to get it unless I absolutely need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigboi Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Marvin Lewis wanted to draft LaMarr woodley, so it would not surprise me if tried to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Quick question for the cap guru's: What is going to happen in the future to the Steelers in regards to the cap. They keep kicking it down the road, but with the cap increasing, will it even matter? Of course it will. The market is what it is, so anyone they resign will need a salary compatible with the current cap. Since they have to tear up contracts every so years for instant cap relief, this means that these fellows get their salary recalibrated faster than if they just signed a reasonable deal that they could live with. Even if the cap rises fast enough to preserve all current contracts, that still is money piled up on a few players that can't be used to lock down the players that should be forming the core for the next 5 years or so. The money they are eating for Woodley, for example, would pay for a 2 year deal for someone like Collins. Instead, that money is gone and they will have to penny pinch somewhere. And someday they will find that agents won't sign these deals with fake money and they will be in real trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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