1st Round Trade?

[spicoli 556]

With Fields out of the top 5, there's a fairly decent chance IMO that Sewell and Smith could go 2 and 3...and in no particular order.

Who do we take if that's the case?

I'm not sold on Rousseau. 

Trade back.

[claptonrocks 304]

26 minutes ago, spicoli said:

There's a fairly decent chance IMO that Sewell and Smith go 2 and 3...no particular order.

Who do we take if that's the case?

I'm not sold on Rousseau. 

Trade back.

Its so up in the air right now that whatever scenario we wind up in is probably not what Ill have in mind..

Lots of jumping up in draft would seem likely..

Who really knows?..

 

[|SF2| 4,162]

10 hours ago, spicoli said:

With Fields out of the top 5, there's a fairly decent chance IMO that Sewell and Smith could go 2 and 3...and in no particular order.

Who do we take if that's the case?

I'm not sold on Rousseau. 

Trade back.

Why is Fields out of the top 5?   Did I miss something?

[BengalFanInTO 550]

13 hours ago, spicoli said:

With Fields out of the top 5, there's a fairly decent chance IMO that Sewell and Smith could go 2 and 3...and in no particular order.

Who do we take if that's the case?

I'm not sold on Rousseau. 

Trade back.

 

Ideally, trade down. If not, Pitts, Chase or Parsons. I am really, really hoping the Bengals do something un-Bengal-like and go heavy and hard in free agency on the offensive line mitigating the need to draft there early. I really wish there was a high level DT or DE available this year as the defensive line needs a lot of work, too.  

[spicoli 556]

3 hours ago, SF2 said:

Why is Fields out of the top 5?   Did I miss something?

 

Well not for sure but he's getting advice to go back to school for another year. I don't think people would be telling him that if they thought he still had a chance to be a top 5 pick.

[|SF2| 4,162]

7 hours ago, spicoli said:

 

Well not for sure but he's getting advice to go back to school for another year. I don't think people would be telling him that if they thought he still had a chance to be a top 5 pick.

Jerry Jeudy was the 15th pick last year and guaranteed 15 million.  No way he goes back. BEST case scenario is he goes to a somewhat decent organization and thrives like Mahomes or Herbert 

[claptonrocks 304]

7 minutes ago, SF2 said:

Jerry Jeudy was the 15th pick last year and guaranteed 15 million.  No way he goes back. BEST case scenario is he goes to a somewhat decent organization and thrives like Mahomes or Herbert 

Hes not going back like the rest of the top 5 or 6 arent..

Money money money on the line.

 

[spicoli 556]

7 hours ago, spicoli said:

 

Well not for sure but he's getting advice to go back to school for another year. I don't think people would be telling him that if they thought he still had a chance to be a top 5 pick.

Im not saying he won’t enter the draft...I’m saying he won’t be a top 5 pick. 

[claptonrocks 304]

9 minutes ago, spicoli said:

Im not saying he won’t enter the draft...I’m saying he won’t be a top 5 pick. 

You dont know how GMs rate him so to say he wont makes no sense..

[UncleEarl 669]

1 hour ago, claptonrocks said:

You dont know how GMs rate him so to say he wont makes no sense..

Nor do you, so it makes as much sense as any other opinion here. 

[claptonrocks 304]

Just now, UncleEarl said:

Nor do you, so it makes as much sense as any other opinion here. 

Whoa..next drinks on me brutha.

[UncleEarl 669]

1 minute ago, claptonrocks said:

Whoa..next drinks on me brutha.

Sensitive tonight.  Hardly worthy of offense. 

[JungleJohn 34]

Judon, Ngakoue, Ingram, Dupree, Leonard Williams. Barrett and Clowney are out there.  Barrett and Clowney may be the best followed by Williams. Could a possible solution be signing Moton or Thuney and then Barrett or Clowney, drafting Chase and taking a solid OL prosptect at 28? The OL will be significantly better, we will have the Edge we need and another prime WR to give Burrow an additional potentially great downfield target and the time for him operate along with blocking for Mixon/Gio. I don't think the question is whether we are going to improve. The question is how and how much. Will an Offensive or Defensive focus take us the furthest? I think this scenario does both with just 2 FAs and the top 2 picks and there is still the rest of the draft to find 2-3 players who can contribute.     

 

 

[gupps 119]

I don't care if they sign Thuney or Scherff, I hope they go heavy with oline/defense in the draft. If they want speed at WR,they could wait til  the later rounds or grab one in FA. I don't want Burrow smacked around like a pinata next year or watch the D give up 400 yards rushing again. What i want to happen:

 

a) Draft Sewell (if there)

 

b) Trade down a few slots and take 2nd best olineman and pick up an extra 3rd

 

c) Parsons

 

d) draft whatever WR/TE/shiney thing Mike has his eye on and then curse while throwing things at the TV

 

 

 

 

 

 

[spicoli 556]

Why Bengals should avoid taking Sewell or any offensive lineman with fifth pick

https://local12.com/sports/bengals/why-bengals-should-avoid-taking-sewell-or-any-offensive-lineman-with-fifth-pick-penei-cincinnati-nfl-draft-cedric-ogbuehi-billy-price

[I_C_Deadpeople 444]

That is a pretty lame analysis. By the same token they should not draft a WR at 5 because of John Ross and a LB because of, well, all LB's every drafted.

 

Fact is, the team has no option but to play the draft board as they lay it out. 

[I_C_Deadpeople 444]

Fields just declared

[Jamie_B 3,258]

On 1/16/2021 at 9:50 AM, spicoli said:

Why Bengals should avoid taking Sewell or any offensive lineman with fifth pick

https://local12.com/sports/bengals/why-bengals-should-avoid-taking-sewell-or-any-offensive-lineman-with-fifth-pick-penei-cincinnati-nfl-draft-cedric-ogbuehi-billy-price

 

 

I would suggest that if the coaches have done alot of the scouting on players and who the team picks that under Taylor, Williams is the only pick on this list we should examine as the rest were taken by Marvin. 

 

And I completely disagree with him about Williams being more suited for guard, and his injuries this year were minor such that had it mattered he would have come back to play. Otherwise when he has played Willams has been our best linemen, even if that isnt saying much.

 

But let's say for a moment he's right and Willams is better suited for guard, we would still need a LT.

 

I think Willams who played more RT in college (IIRC) could move to RT and Sewell come in and play LT, then we could fill out the middle of the line much easier.

 

Don't agree with the article at all.

[MichaelWeston 1,505]

I think our top option is almost equal in trading back or Sewell. I think there are about 6 players that could go in that top 6 picks. 

 

1. Trevor Lawrence

2. Zach Wilson

3. Justin Fields

4. Micah Parsons

5. Penei Sewell

6. Ja'Marr Chase

 

Our 3 options are probably, 

1. Sewell

2. Chase

3. Trade Back

 

I don't like the idea of Chase because while I think he is great I think the difference in improvement at the position vs his replacement (Perriman-Conley) etc., and the passes a 3rd option will get is minimal. 

I do like the idea of Sewell but more and more people are coming out and saying he is actually not the top ranked lineman and it's Slater. 

This draft is deep at WR-T and DL and we could get a very quality guy in the mid to late first and pack on a ton of picks. Here are recent trade ups. 

 

2011	Julio Jones
Falcons	6th
Browns	2011 26, 59,124	2012 22, 118
2012	RG3
Redskins	2012 2
Rams	2012 6, 39	2013 22	2014 2
2017	Patrick Mahomes
Chiefs	2017 10
Bills	2017 22,27, 91
2018	Josh Rosen
Cardinals	2018 10
Raiders	2018 15, 79, 152
2018	Josh Allen
Bills	2018 7
Bucs	2018 12, 2 2nds, 255
2018	Sam Darnold
Jets	2018 3
Colts	2018 6, 37, 49	2019 2nd
2019	Devin Bush
Stealers	2019 10
Colts	2019 20, 52	2020 3rd

 

At this point I think it's very likely Fields is there when we pick 5th. If that's the case the pick will be in huge demand. 

Eagles 6th

Lions 7th

Broncos 9th

Niners 12th

Pats 15th

 

If all of those teams are battling to move up we might get a decent haul with a lot of studs still left. 

 

WR

Smith and Waddle

TE

Pitts

OL

Slater, Darrisaw

DL

Barmore, Paye, Rosseau

[Sox 182]

^Agreed. Especially since next years QB class appears to be much weaker, at least right now.