Sea Ray Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 20 minutes ago, stan said: Brady was a 6th rnd pick.Golladay sad he wanted 18 milliom a year and he got it.Whitworth was a 3rd rnd pick out of LSU. I'm amazed what the Giants gave him: The New York Giants are signing wide receiver Kenny Golladay to a four-year, $72 million deal with $40 million fully guaranteed, according to NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport, per informed sources. The deal is worth up to $76 million with incentives, Rapoport added. https://www.nfl.com/news/giants-signing-kenny-golladay-to-four-year-72-million-deal No way the Bengals should do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 23 minutes ago, stan said: Brady was a 6th rnd pick.Golladay sad he wanted 18 milliom a year and he got it.Whitworth was a 3rd rnd pick out of LSU. 2nd round pick Whitworth was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tibor75 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 27 minutes ago, stan said: Brady was a 6th rnd pick.Golladay sad he wanted 18 milliom a year and he got it.Whitworth was a 3rd rnd pick out of LSU. No he wasn't. Bengals took Whitworth in 2nd round (55) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, claptonrocks said: You really believe that?. Cosmi shows 1st round capability. Ill give you that.. Leatherwood and Eichenberg arent starting for anyone this upcoming season imo.. Your reaching bigtime there imo. Good thing Reiff is durable and dependable then, huh? Groom them for a year. And I absolutely guarantee ya that Leatherwood is a starting RT for some team this coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Le Tigre said: The Quitter actually had better numbers in 2006 than 2005 overall. His knee was not his problem going forward, it became his elbow. Exactly correct: quite probable he goes the route of The Quitter, and excels. The knee becomes less of an issue. Until then, one day at a time. He had more yards and TDs, (which I think may have been a function of playing from behind more) but his accuracy was never the same. His ball placement in 2005 was elite. After that he threw a lot more high passes and INTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 4 minutes ago, spicoli said: 2nd round pick Whitworth was. Are you channeling Yoda? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 12 minutes ago, Jason said: He had more yards and TDs, (which I think may have been a function of playing from behind more) but his accuracy was never the same. His ball placement in 2005 was elite. After that he threw a lot more high passes and INTs. Fair points. But was the knee in his head? I didn’t detect that back then, but then again, who was in his head to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 2 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: Fair points. But was the knee in his head? I didn’t detect that back then, but then again, who was in his head to know? Noone was in his head.. Why?.. There was nothing in there to start with.. Gifted physically.. Stunted emtionally.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, claptonrocks said: You really believe that?. Cosmi shows 1st round capability. Ill give you that.. Leatherwood and Eichenberg arent starting for anyone this upcoming season imo.. Your reaching bigtime there imo. That is just wrong. Both could start at G next year and move to T thereafter, and Eichenberg is ready for RT if need be from day 1. You need to read up on Brugler's positional draft preview in the Athletic if you haven't. It has been pasted in the simulator thread, I believe. Leatherwoood and/or Eichenberg likely available at 38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 58 minutes ago, Jason said: He had more yards and TDs, (which I think may have been a function of playing from behind more) but his accuracy was never the same. His ball placement in 2005 was elite. After that he threw a lot more high passes and INTs. I think you are mixing up CP after the elbow injury with CP before the elbow injury. It was the elbow in 2008 that really caused that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 23 minutes ago, membengal said: That is just wrong. Both could start at G next year and move to T thereafter, and Eichenberg is ready for RT if need be from day 1. You need to read up on Brugler's positional draft preview in the Athletic if you haven't. It has been pasted in the simulator thread, I believe. Leatherwoood and/or Eichenberg likely available at 38. I believe Eichenberg could be a good starting tackle.. First year?.Who knows but hiis pass protecting ability will enhance his value .. Leatherwood looks heavyfooted and his lack of aggression to hold up in power plays has been noted by more than one analyst.. Seems he just focuses on a block then kinda watches the play materialuze with no extra effort.. Im not sold on him but Ill take a flyer on Eichenberg if needed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 Both of those guys can start at G in year 1 while they prepare for T later. Like Whitworth before them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 21 minutes ago, membengal said: Both of those guys can start at G in year 1 while they prepare for T later. Like Whitworth before them. Ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, spicoli said: Leatherwood, Cosmi and Eichenberg could all come in and start at RT from day one if they had to. They could. And they could suck out loud too. You act like you know exactly what kind of pros all these guys are going to be. You don’t, nor do NFL scouts. No one knows for sure until they put on the pads and play. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 3 hours ago, membengal said: I think you are mixing up CP after the elbow injury with CP before the elbow injury. It was the elbow in 2008 that really caused that. No, because even in 2006 his accuracy was off of where it was in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 1 hour ago, UncleEarl said: They could. And they could suck out loud too. You act like you know exactly what kind of pros all these guys are going to be. You don’t, nor do NFL scouts. No one knows for sure until they put on the pads and play. Big pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker57 Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, stan said: Brady was a 6th rnd pick.Golladay sad he wanted 18 milliom a year and he got it.Whitworth was a 3rd rnd pick out of LSU. try again whitworth was drafted second round of the 2006 NFL Draft. brady however you are correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Relevant on two of the top remaining FA WR targets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 "I know you had a few other teams perusing you......" Me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spicoli Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 Trai Turner sees free-agency recruiting effort by Bengals fans https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2021/03/21/trai-turner-free-agency-recruiting-effort-bengals-fans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gupps Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 18 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Big pads? Maxis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 On 3/20/2021 at 5:37 PM, Le Tigre said: Fair points. But was the knee in his head? I didn’t detect that back then, but then again, who was in his head to know? It always seemed to me that his left leg almost never fully planted after the surgery. His passes seemed to sail a lot, especially on out routes. He never seemed the same to me. Just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted March 21 Report Share Posted March 21 3 minutes ago, Sox said: It always seemed to me that his left leg almost never fully planted after the surgery. His passes seemed to sail a lot, especially on out routes. He never seemed the same to me. Just my opinion. I get the observation. Many of us in the stands thought the same. Maybe it was us who had it in our heads? This blurb from an older B/R article summed up the nuts and bolts of his ‘06 season: “Palmer underwent reconstructive surgery on his knee (in very early ‘06) and vowed to be the Bengals' starting quarterback for the 2006 season. And he did just that, starting every game of that season, and only missing a single snap due to having the wind knocked out of him.” “He put up even more staggering numbers in 2006, passing for over 4000 yards and throwing 28 touchdown passes. He made the Pro Bowl for the second consecutive year, and would go on to lead the AFC down the field in the final two minutes to win the game. He was later named Pro Bowl MVP.” The team should have made the playoffs, except: “The downside to the 2006 season was that the Bengals struggled elsewhere. They made special teams mistakes, missing field goals and even point-after attempts. After starting the season 8-5, and needing only to win one of their final three games against Indianapolis, Denver, and Pittsburgh, the Bengals fell to 8-8, and missed the playoffs.” “But no one could fault Carson Palmer for the disappointing ending to the season. He was still playing at an elite level, and was put in the conversation along side Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Philip Rivers as the best quarterbacks in the league.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/544449-cincinnati-bengals-the-rise-and-fall-of-carson-palmer.amp.html By all descriptions, he overcame a shredded knee in Jan 2006—worse than that of Burrow’s—and came back arguably better. With the advances in medicine since even 2006, there should be no problem with young Joe coming back completely. Just have to keep those other thoughts out of his head, and the fans. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 5 hours ago, spicoli said: Trai Turner sees free-agency recruiting effort by Bengals fans https://bengalswire.usatoday.com/2021/03/21/trai-turner-free-agency-recruiting-effort-bengals-fans/ Hope this gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted March 22 Report Share Posted March 22 11 hours ago, membengal said: Relevant on two of the top remaining FA WR targets... Don't know why Reyniolds hasnt signed yet... Bengals need another wideout so unless their thinking Sammy Watkins they should bring him in.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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