I_C_Deadpeople 552 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 6 minutes ago, T-Dub said: Shouldn't be a problem with that being such a strength for this team I thought our strength was blitzing and getting to the opposing QB? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BengalFanInTO 671 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: We did have to to replace the mediocre culture with a losing one, this takes time. Very true. 15 players left from the 2018 roster... Jessie Bates Tyler Boyd Jordan Evans Clark Harris Trey Hopkins Sam Hubbard Kevin Huber Joe Mixon Darius Phillips Billy Price Mason Schreck Auden Tate Josh Tupou CJ Uzomah Brandon Wilson 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelWeston 1,561 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, membengal said: He asked for his release. After we asked him to take a paycut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 753 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, HavePityPlease said: Apparently $4.1M savings As if they are going to spend it on players. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 753 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, BengalFanInTO said: I just read that he was apparently asked to take a pay cut two weeks in to free agency. With Gio's release, the Bengals move in to the 4th most cap space available slot. Even Hobsoning the numbers, that's a ton. I'm assuming Bates will at least (hopefully) get extended. The Bengals made some decent signings but to me, they fumbled the free agency ball hard in improving in areas of need. Before the offseason started, I (along with a number of others) listed the cap cuts and all but Uzomah were released yet the Bengals made very little impact and only released Bernard and Atkins after the major free agents were off the board. Can you release Uzomah while he is rehabbing an injury? Think that would require an injury settlement. (more money) Atkins has had the same injury for a while and hasn't had surgery from what I've heard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 753 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 This is not a move a team expecting to win makes. Maybe one of the young guys can step up, but there is no guarantee. Bernard was solid as a backup and great as a 3rd down back. It's not like the Bengals needed any more cap space. The Brown family may have wanted more money in their pockets though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 552 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 15 minutes ago, UncleEarl said: This is not a move a team expecting to win makes. Maybe one of the young guys can step up, but there is no guarantee. Bernard was solid as a backup and great as a 3rd down back. It's not like the Bengals needed any more cap space. The Brown family may have wanted more money in their pockets though. Man you are very cynical UncleEarl, you need to be more positive about this team like I am. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleEarl 753 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Man you are very cynical UncleEarl, you need to be more positive about this team like I am. Can't come up with any other explanation for this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
claptonrocks 482 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Good move by all involved.. Team saves 4mil and Bernard can move on in his career. What none of you mentioned was maybe they want to slot Treyveon Willams in his place now.. His strong traits aside from running are blocking and receiving.. Bernard s 30 and hasnt averaged 4yrd a clip in years.. Good man..good luck.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cat 612 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 5 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Little sad about this. Me too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,822 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Bernard s 30 and hasnt averaged 4yrd a clip in years.. Has anyone on this team? Going way out on a limb but I think the problem there might not have been Gio 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 3,143 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: I thought our strength was blitzing and getting to the opposing QB? That was Carl Lawson's speciality. Blitzing, getting to the opposing QB and keeping going. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jupiter Fan 100 Posted April 7 Report Share Posted April 7 Ah, too bad but I saw it coming along with him and Geno. It's a cap thing and I'd be very interested in resigning one or the other. Hopefully they use the cap savings to extend Bates. Do it now before the draft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T-Dub 7,822 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 2 hours ago, Jupiter Fan said: Ah, too bad but I saw it coming along with him and Geno. It's a cap thing and I'd be very interested in resigning one or the other. Hopefully they use the cap savings to extend Bates. Do it now before the draft. Sorry, all that money is already spent on the injury pool for rookies in 2023 #HobsonMath 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stryker57 54 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 8 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Good move by all involved.. Team saves 4mil and Bernard can move on in his career. What none of you mentioned was maybe they want to slot Treyveon Willams in his place now.. His strong traits aside from running are blocking and receiving.. Bernard s 30 and hasnt averaged 4yrd a clip in years.. Good man..good luck.. just like they wanted to slot ogodabji in whitworths spot hopefully it works out better this time and wasnt just about the money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 3,143 Posted April 8 Report Share Posted April 8 8 hours ago, T-Dub said: Sorry, all that money is already spent on the injury pool for rookies in 2023 #HobsonMath I have it from a good inside source that Mikey is pricing retreads for the Lumina. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 3,143 Posted April 9 Report Share Posted April 9 The guy is a class act and will be one of the few now non Bengals I follow on his next team. Good Bless and Good Luck to Gio. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|SF2| 4,216 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 On 4/7/2021 at 2:09 PM, claptonrocks said: Good move by all involved.. Team saves 4mil and Bernard can move on in his career. What none of you mentioned was maybe they want to slot Treyveon Willams in his place now.. His strong traits aside from running are blocking and receiving.. Bernard s 30 and hasnt averaged 4yrd a clip in years.. Good man..good luck.. Pretty classless move by the Bengals. If they wanted to move on they should have done it at the beginning of FA, not a month in. This organization just doesn’t give a damn about its players. No wonder this is a last resort for many or a big payday for the below average. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I_C_Deadpeople 552 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, SF2 said: Pretty classless move by the Bengals. If they wanted to move on they should have done it at the beginning of FA, not a month in. This organization just doesn’t give a damn about its players. No wonder this is a last resort for many or a big payday for the below average. What? Come on, how many teams have a Ring of Honor for its players -we are the first no doubt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BengalFanInTO 671 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 15 hours ago, SF2 said: Pretty classless move by the Bengals. If they wanted to move on they should have done it at the beginning of FA, not a month in. This organization just doesn’t give a damn about its players. No wonder this is a last resort for many or a big payday for the below average. I rarely defend the Bengals front office but I don't see how the Bengals have any obligation to make a move like this at any point. They were assessing their options. They've got a right to do that. Gio was paid handsomely to be average here for a lot of years. He will land somewhere but his opportunities and/or how much he will get paid would not have gone up if he'd been released a month ago. Sounds like they asked him to take salary haircut early in free agency and he mulled it for weeks and when he decided not to, he asked for his release. Doesn't seem like he was in a huge rush either. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MOC 21 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 18 hours ago, BengalFanInTO said: I rarely defend the Bengals front office but I don't see how the Bengals have any obligation to make a move like this at any point. They were assessing their options. They've got a right to do that. Gio was paid handsomely to be average here for a lot of years. He will land somewhere but his opportunities and/or how much he will get paid would not have gone up if he'd been released a month ago. Sounds like they asked him to take salary haircut early in free agency and he mulled it for weeks and when he decided not to, he asked for his release. Doesn't seem like he was in a huge rush either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cat 612 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 He was a great guy and a decent player - probably not worth what he was getting paid here, but even as recently as the win against the stealers - he was playing like a beast. He'll be one of my favorite of all time. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CalifBengalfan 14 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 Sad to see him go too, and the guy played his ass off for the Bengals. Said and did all the right things on and off the field and a great leader on the team. Was a fun guy to watch and seems as everyone says is a class act all the way around. Don`t blame the Bengals for the timing either. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
|High School Harry| 3,143 Posted April 12 Report Share Posted April 12 So, if his market is soft, should we bring him back with a smaller contract? I would. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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