|BlackJesus| Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 The Bengals and Packers different philosophy ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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|BlackJesus| Posted July 15 Report Share Posted July 15 He rose up in the playoffs, but was below average in the regular season ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 There are no NFL PFF grades on Dax Hill. They go where the bouncing ball lands, but they are not foolish enough to think there is no gamble on a wet-behind-the-ears rookie. And JBIII is not foolish enough to go full Leveon Bell either. He doesn’t hate Cincinnati like Bell hated the Stealers…isn’t as adventurous as Adams in blackmailing Green Bay, and definitely is not BS nuts like Dez. There will be an “understanding” just before TC or the season ala Dez, and he’ll play. No doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dex Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Dax Hill was a very versatile safety for Michigan last season. Often he played a Vonn Bell type role, sometimes a Mike Hilton role, occasionally a Tre Flowers type DB. The one type of safety he played the least? A deep free safety like Bates. Which isn't to say he can't do it, just that he got very few college snaps in that type of role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishBengalFan Posted July 16 Report Share Posted July 16 Wonder what these guys are doing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Jersey Bengal Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 Interesting to see what happens I hope they keep him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: Not even close to being true. Who is James Palmer? Is he related to Bates' agent or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 32 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Not even close to being true. I would put Bates like #11 myself ... 1. Burrow 2. Chase 3. Higgins 4. Hendrickson 5. Jonah 6. Chido 7. Mixon 8. Hilton 9. Wilson 10. Reader 11. Bates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted July 18 Report Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, BlackJesus said: I would put Bates like #11 myself ... 1. Burrow 2. Chase 3. Higgins 4. Hendrickson 5. Jonah 6. Chido 7. Mixon 8. Hilton 9. Wilson 10. Reader 11. Bates I'm with you on the 1st 5 but the rest..... 1. Burrow 2. Chase 3. Higgins 4. Hendrickson 5. Jonah 6. Reader 7. Chido 8. McPherson (how many games did we win by 3 points last year?) 9. Bates 10. Mixon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, BlackJesus said: I would put Bates like #11 myself ... 1. Burrow 2. Chase 3. Higgins 4. Hendrickson 5. Jonah 6. Chido 7. Mixon 8. Hilton 9. Wilson 10. Reader 11. Bates You could really put the entire offensive line ahead of him too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 17 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said: You could really put the entire offensive line ahead of him too. Pretty much... Burrow Chase Higgins Hendrickson/Hubbard The entire Offensive line. Logan Wilson McFearsone (tie) Master Bates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 I'd put Bates ahead of Mixon and Hurst from the offense and Pratt from the defense. He's about even with Apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lslmustang Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 The challenge will be how his teammates feel about this and will it impact team chemistry... Are there things he does that is outside of the measurements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, sparky151 said: He's about even with Apple. ... Which is saying something. Considering Apple is making 4 million this year, and Bates turned down 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 8 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: ... Which is saying something. Considering Apple is making 4 million this year, and Bates turned down 17. I thought Apple agreed to a 1 year 8 mill deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 1 hour ago, lslmustang said: The challenge will be how his teammates feel about this and will it impact team chemistry... Are there things he does that is outside of the measurements? Have seen nothing but positives coming out of the locker room. Appears he is a model teammate and quite respected--at least from the public statements anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 59 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I thought Apple agreed to a 1 year 8 mill deal? ... A great bargain for a starting CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 there are certainly players theyve only guaranteed the first year, but its far from rare to guarantee more. whether its from signing bonus or something other than contactually guaranteeing it. but it does seem its mostly a draft pick thing which obviously makes sense. seems interesting they have a per game active bonus on several contracts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 bates and reader are the 2nd and 3rd highest cap hits, so assuming bates falls off after 2022 and reader after 2023, and hendrickson the top hit right now, after 2024, so all three of our most expensive deals fall off one per year each of the next three offseasons. that seems well planned 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, GoBengals said: bates and reader are the 2nd and 3rd highest cap hits, so assuming bates falls off after 2022 and reader after 2023, and hendrickson the top hit right now, after 2024, so all three of our most expensive deals fall off one per year each of the next three offseasons. that seems well planned And the key will be replacing them through the draft. Already planned for safeties in 2022. Expecting next year to be heavy DL/OL. Also from the contracts above....Hubbard, what a bargain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 3 minutes ago, Dautcom08 said: And the key will be replacing them through the draft. Already planned for safeties in 2022. Expecting next year to be heavy DL/OL. Also from the contracts above....Hubbard, what a bargain. I'm expecting CB and LB. Cheeto will be on his last year, Apple is only here for 1 year. CTB will be the only long term signing. Then we also have 3 LBs that are coming due for extensions, we wont keep al 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted July 19 Report Share Posted July 19 9 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: I'm expecting CB and LB. Cheeto will be on his last year, Apple is only here for 1 year. CTB will be the only long term signing. Then we also have 3 LBs that are coming due for extensions, we wont keep al 3. This is true. After re-examining the contracts I forgot they signed Cappa/Karras/Collins to multi-year deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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