PatternMaster Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 Saquan Barkley is apparently not getting a long-term deal, maybe we could trade him for Jonah and give him Mixon's deal. Barkley in this offense would be insane and the Giants like to get trade raped by us, see Billy Price for BJ Hill. As for Mixon, he's done here. You can't point guns at people while screaming how untouchable you are then have your thugged out family shoot up the neighborhood kids for playing outside...like WTF are you thinking. He fumbled the bag and I don't feel any remorse for the guy, thanks for your service but we can find his leadership and production from another player...preferably one with a sweet high top fade and quads that won't quit.. #gayforsay-quan..lol Hide the white women...Saquan's in town...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 I'm not sure any RB in the NFL is worth a long term top deal tbh. The Giants probably realize this as well. Look at Zeke (already cut before his big deal finished). NFL RBs take on too much punishment and are too easily replaceable to ever give like a 5 year, 75 million dollar 2nd contract deal to (likely what Saquon wants). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: I'm not sure any RB in the NFL is worth a long term top deal tbh. The Giants probably realize this as well. Look at Zeke (already cut before his big deal finished). NFL RBs take on too much punishment and are too easily replaceable to ever give like a 5 year, 100 million dollar deal to (likely what Saquon wants). Where are you getting those numbers from. He's scheduled to make $10M this year while Mixon is making 12. I would give him a 4 year 60 million dollar deal in a heart beat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 That would be a terrible contract for the Bengals. The highest paid RB in the NFL is Christian McCaffrey and he makes 12 mil per year. Barkley also has a history of injury and is 4 years into his career already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, Jason said: My thoughts for this draft in particular are different from previous drafts. This may be the best chance the Bengals ever have at a championship. So I want at least the first few rounds to be focused on guys that can make an impact right now. I think Gibbs is one of those guys. He certainly adds explosion. That is an interesting approach but it may lend itself to reaching instead of just going with the board as it is laid out. I think the team wants to maintain a championship level for many years so BPA may be the best approach. Having said that , I always like to see the first two round guys contributing early. The teams approach to the draft has been much smarter lately (obviously) so I at least trust their board (maybe not the OL lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, sparky151 said: That would be a terrible contract for the Bengals. The highest paid RB in the NFL is Christian McCaffrey and he makes 12 mil per year. Barkley also has a history of injury and is 4 years into his career already. You clearly haven't seen the quads in person...those add a couple of million on their own. Just because McCaffery makes 12 million doesn't the salaries won't go up and he's been injured just as much or more than Saquan..you can put some clauses in the deal to protect yourself from injury as they did with Collins..he only gets paid if he plays. Barkley had a monster season with an awful oline, no WR's to take a safety out of the box, and a dreadful QB...putting him in this offense would unleash his real capabilities and make us scary on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 I also think the future of the RB position is glorified WRs, as it's becoming a passing QB driven league ... The traditional thumping running back died with Derrick Henry, and teams have figured out how to load the box, db blitz from the edges, and meet him in the backfield before he gets a head of steam. So if you're a RB who could play WR if needed (like McCaffrey, or perhaps Gibbs?) you still have some high value. But, most hand it and run with it RBs are a dime a dozen and any 4th Rd pick from a SEC school will likely do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 13 hours ago, PatternMaster said: Saquan Barkley is apparently not getting a long-term deal, maybe we could trade him for Jonah and give him Mixon's deal. Barkley in this offense would be insane and the Giants like to get trade raped by us, see Billy Price for BJ Hill. As for Mixon, he's done here. You can't point guns at people while screaming how untouchable you are then have your thugged out family shoot up the neighborhood kids for playing outside...like WTF are you thinking. He fumbled the bag and I don't feel any remorse for the guy, thanks for your service but we can find his leadership and production from another player...preferably one with a sweet high top fade and quads that won't quit.. #gayforsay-quan..lol Hide the white women...Saquan's in town...lol I don't think women, white or any other ethnicity, have anything to fear from this number. They may be the new face of Bud Light beer. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: I don't think women, white or any other ethnicity, have anything to fear from this number. They may be the new face of Bud Light beer. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Kid Rock is that you...I thought you were a Lions fan. https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/11/bud-light-rainbow-can-kid-rock-memes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, PatternMaster said: Kid Rock is that you...I thought you were a Lions fan. https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/11/bud-light-rainbow-can-kid-rock-memes/ Wearing a Coors cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 5 hours ago, PatternMaster said: Kid Rock is that you...I thought you were a Lions fan. https://pleated-jeans.com/2023/04/11/bud-light-rainbow-can-kid-rock-memes/ He's just pandering, I'm sure he could give a shit about anything other than getting paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 13, 2023 Report Share Posted April 13, 2023 20 minutes ago, T-Dub said: He's just pandering, I'm sure he could give a shit about anything other than getting paid the way he is drinking that beer and the way the drag queen is looking at him... Ew, David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 On 4/12/2023 at 5:12 PM, BlackJesus said: I'm not sure any RB in the NFL is worth a long term top deal tbh. The Giants probably realize this as well. Look at Zeke (already cut before his big deal finished). NFL RBs take on too much punishment and are too easily replaceable to ever give like a 5 year, 75 million dollar 2nd contract deal to (likely what Saquon wants). Keep the Oline in top 10... Or close.. Draft a workhorse RB with 1200 carries in 4yr rookie contract. Run em to death..😎 Replace with younger legs and a rook contract to prove in his 4yrs. Keep Oline strong to protect the King of the North and let young RBs run it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 My list. I would obviously take Bijan RB Zach Charbonet-UCLA (2) Tank Bigsby-Auburn (3) Roschon Johnson-Texas (3) SG Dwayne McBride-UAB (3) SG Sean Tucker-Syracuse (4) Kendre Miller-TCU (4) Tyjae Spears-Tulane (4) Israel Abanikanda-Pitt (4) Kenny McIntosh-Georgia (4) SG Zach Evans-Ole Miss (5) SG Sarodorick Thompson-T Tech (U) 3C Denereic Prince-Tulsa (7) Chris Rodriguez-Kentucky (7) 2C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 19 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: I would obviously take Bijan Why not Gibbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: Why not Gibbs? Great question. I think he will go too high for what he offers. Can't be an all around back due to size. He and Washington at TE are guys who I would love on the team but who I think go to highly for what they offer. Guys who if we draft I will be initially mad and then get over it quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 he is comped to Jamaal Charles. I absolutely think he can be an all around back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 Gibbs is explosive but not great running between the tackles. He's a very good receiver but not great at blitz pickup. So he'd come off the field on obvious passing downs. Sounds a bit like Evans. Whether in the draft or from the free agency scrap heap, we need to find a RB who can block as well as run and catch. My plan would be to sign Zeke Elliott if he'll take 4 mil or less, cut Mixon, and draft 1, maybe 2 mid-late RBs to carry the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Gibbs is explosive but not great running between the tackles. He's a very good receiver but not great at blitz pickup. So he'd come off the field on obvious passing downs. Sounds a bit like Evans. Whether in the draft or from the free agency scrap heap, we need to find a RB who can block as well as run and catch. My plan would be to sign Zeke Elliott if he'll take 4 mil or less, cut Mixon, and draft 1, maybe 2 mid-late RBs to carry the ball. One thing Zeke has going for him is his hometown appeal would put butts in the seats but this season with a sell out and waiting list... not so much. Any other season he would be dining at the Precinct with the team faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 3 hours ago, MichaelWeston said: My list. I would obviously take Bijan RB Zach Charbonet-UCLA (2) Tank Bigsby-Auburn (3) Roschon Johnson-Texas (3) SG Dwayne McBride-UAB (3) SG Sean Tucker-Syracuse (4) Kendre Miller-TCU (4) Tyjae Spears-Tulane (4) Israel Abanikanda-Pitt (4) Kenny McIntosh-Georgia (4) SG Zach Evans-Ole Miss (5) SG Sarodorick Thompson-T Tech (U) 3C Denereic Prince-Tulsa (7) Chris Rodriguez-Kentucky (7) 2C I like the kid out of Pitt, Izzy Abanikanda. If he can figure out pass pro he could be a top 5 back in the NFL in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: One thing Zeke has going for him is his hometown appeal would put butts in the seats but this season with a sell out and waiting list... not so much. Any other season he would be dining at the Precinct with the team faces. That was a long time ago and he's a shell of his former self at this point, RB is a young man's game and he's the gray beard in the room at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 Yes, Zeke is no longer a bellcow back. He's definitely lost a step. But he was always a good blocker and receiver and can fill the Perine role. He can still be a good short yardage back as he has strength, especially if we upgrade the O-line. He can also be a mentor to the other RBs especially if we're drafting 1 or 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 I would take Zeke in the Perine role, NOT as a feature back to replace Mixon. Gibbs in the Mixon role and Zeke in the Perine role would be a substantial upgrade in the RM room IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 Just now, membengal said: I would take Zeke in the Perine role, NOT as a feature back to replace Mixon. Gibbs in the Mixon role and Zeke in the Perine role would be a substantial upgrade in the RM room IMO. Would you spend a first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claptonrocks Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, MichaelWeston said: Would you spend a first? If the team fortifies the RT spot Gibbs would be enticing .. Without a promising g RT on hand Id pass on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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