January 18Jan 18 comment_1784112 18 minutes ago, Le Tigre said: Jutst a bunch of names really. Seems like each year, there just isn’t that many “WOW!” ones popping up at you True that... The only players I see as your Wow plers may be Safety Starks and no one else,.
January 18Jan 18 comment_1784116 7 hours ago, Jamie_B said: Dane Brugler had done a mock https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6060013/2025/01/15/nfl-mock-draft-2025-rounds-1-2-cam-ward-shedeur-sanders/ Those may recall that I declared Mykel Williams my first draft crush on here awhile back. So I would love this pick. Get Williams in Rd 1 and his teammate RG Ratledge in Rd 2. #DraftBulldogs
January 18Jan 18 comment_1784117 DE Mykel Williams Highlights (#13) His arm length is insane and he uses those vines well.
January 18Jan 18 comment_1784118 4 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Just a bunch of names really. Seems like each year, there just isn’t that many “WOW!” ones popping up at you I don't follow college ball & with the way the hype machine gets going, anyone expecting a call on day one of the draft right now is Jimmy Bigtime and going to change the game forever. By April I may have a better picture on some of them, but aside from injuries or arrest record you really have to dig into the game tape to know the truth. I'm probably not going to do that until after the picks are made. I guess it's a little early this year but I might as well start repeating that none of these draft eligibles are jack shit, any one of them could be a bust and most won't be nearly as good as their agents would have us believe. They're all clueless rookies until they prove otherwise.
January 18Jan 18 Author comment_1784122 5 hours ago, T-Dub said: I don't follow college ball & with the way the hype machine gets going, anyone expecting a call on day one of the draft right now is Jimmy Bigtime and going to change the game forever. By April I may have a better picture on some of them, but aside from injuries or arrest record you really have to dig into the game tape to know the truth. I'm probably not going to do that until after the picks are made. I guess it's a little early this year but I might as well start repeating that none of these draft eligibles are jack shit, any one of them could be a bust and most won't be nearly as good as their agents would have us believe. They're all clueless rookies until they prove otherwise. With the advent of 365 days a year NFL, the yakkity yaks in the media have to be able to feed the masses with bread and circuses in order to retain audience. Every player with a pulse, is analyzed with a microscope. Whatever faults they may have, are covered over with “upside” and “ceilings”. Back when, very few knew anything about the incoming draft class. There certainly weren't any combines. Pro Days were only as much as the schools themselves permitted: which were not many. The Draft prep was essentially the Senior Bowl and scouting. It was a bigger crap shoot back then than now…but then again, there wasn’t the premise of “building through the draft”. It was an accentuation not a key ingredient.
January 18Jan 18 comment_1784135 In the old days, ala the 70s, teams were indeed built through the draft. There wasn't free agency at all, then plan B, then eventually real free agency. The draft also used to go a lot longer so you'd see someone listed as a 12th or 15th rounder. Overall, this isn't really a great draft year but the weaknesses are at QB and OT and WR. We're set there. It's a good draft for RBs and D-linemen. IMO the Bengals should remove a lot of deadwood and clear a lot of cap space. Then find some starters and role players in free agency so we don't have to draft particular positions. Then take the best players available (or more accurately the ones who add the most value to the team, considering positional value).
January 18Jan 18 comment_1784138 7 minutes ago, sparky151 said: In the old days, ala the 70s, teams were indeed built through the draft. There wasn't free agency at all, then plan B, then eventually real free agency. The draft also used to go a lot longer so you'd see someone listed as a 12th or 15th rounder. Overall, this isn't really a great draft year but the weaknesses are at QB and OT and WR. We're set there. It's a good draft for RBs and D-linemen. IMO the Bengals should remove a lot of deadwood and clear a lot of cap space. Then find some starters and role players in free agency so we don't have to draft particular positions. Then take the best players available (or more accurately the ones who add the most value to the team, considering positional value). I agree but this FO seems to treat cutting players under contract like it's some great tragedy.
January 18Jan 18 Author comment_1784140 31 minutes ago, sparky151 said: In the old days, ala the 70s, teams were indeed built through the draft. There wasn't free agency at all, then plan B, then eventually real free agency. The draft also used to go a lot longer so you'd see someone listed as a 12th or 15th rounder. While agree as to the expanded draft; there were also no practice squads (“taxi squads”) were by and large non existent after the ‘60’s) The extra picks were primarily to fill camp spots as cannon fodder. Our 12th-round Tim Krumrie was a notable exception. And because there was no free agency, teams kept their base players much longer—often well into their 30’s. Drafted players had to be really good, simply to make the rosters
January 18Jan 18 comment_1784174 Yes, teams were mostly built through the draft. They could sometimes strike gold on the waiver wire, ie Johnny Unitas, but there was also more incentive to trade for established players to fill gaps. Paul Brown made a lot of trades, much more so than Duke Tobin does.
January 19Jan 19 comment_1784317 7 hours ago, Le Tigre said: While agree as to the expanded draft; there were also no practice squads (“taxi squads”) were by and large non existent after the ‘60’s) Funny. My son brought this term up today in connection with his fantasy league. So then my husband felt compelled to explain the origin of that term to him….again.
January 19Jan 19 Author comment_1784324 38 minutes ago, Shebengal said: Funny. My son brought this term up today in connection with his fantasy league. So then my husband felt compelled to explain the origin of that term to him….again. The NFl origin of roster sizes was varied…and essentially…wide open spaces. It wasn’t until the advent of the AFL—which did have set roster numbers—did the NFL change to follow suit. But the heyday of the “Taxi Squads” was going on strong during the ‘70’s
January 19Jan 19 comment_1784402 10 hours ago, BlackJesus said: As of January 19 ... Browns with Abdul Carter AND Garrett. 😵💫
January 19Jan 19 comment_1784412 2 hours ago, Cricket said: Browns with Abdul Carter AND Garrett. 😵💫 Would be a great combo. Wouldn't surprise me to see him go 1st in the draft. Tennessee needs a QB though
January 19Jan 19 comment_1784413 12 hours ago, BlackJesus said: As of January 19 ... Raiders f acting Sanders may bring eon with him. Good ir bad thing? Im not high on him but the need may be to great for Mark Davis to pass on.
January 19Jan 19 comment_1784479 Big Malaki Starks fan here. Really smart player, playmaker. Team leader. Not sure on Mykiel Williams but I was kinda meh on Nolan Smith and he’s looked good so far. Eagles D is UGA North. Davis, Smith, Dean, Carter, Ringo…
January 20Jan 20 comment_1784585 On 1/18/2025 at 1:11 PM, Le Tigre said: While agree as to the expanded draft; there were also no practice squads (“taxi squads”) were by and large non existent after the ‘60’s) The extra picks were primarily to fill camp spots as cannon fodder. Our 12th-round Tim Krumrie was a notable exception. And because there was no free agency, teams kept their base players much longer—often well into their 30’s. Drafted players had to be really good, simply to make the rosters In the old days veterans also stuck together and rookies were treated like crap. Not just in football. Today players are a bit smarter and are looking for people to help them win and most players embrace rookies and help coach them up, if they'll listen. (Burton)
January 25Jan 25 comment_1785189 On 1/17/2025 at 6:20 PM, Jamie_B said: Dane Brugler had done a mock https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6060013/2025/01/15/nfl-mock-draft-2025-rounds-1-2-cam-ward-shedeur-sanders/ Brugler is generally pretty accurate in his scouting versus the actual draft. Couple of things to note in his mock - he has several of the top tackles as tackle or guard - often with a comment like many scouts see them as guards. These guys could be good picks at our spot at 1 in that they could start at guard and either eventually move to tackle or be a valid tackle backup. mothers note is Nic Scrouten he has a second rounder , his comment being most scouts have a second round grade on him. Meanwhile most other sites have him in round one and often in the top 20.
January 25Jan 25 comment_1785222 14 minutes ago, Griever said: Would like bruiser to compliment Chase
January 25Jan 25 comment_1785226 1 hour ago, Griever said: Would like bruiser to compliment Chase Yeah, the Bengals passed at something like an 80+% rate on 4th down and 3 yards or less last year. We need to be able to run block and need a power runner who can convert short yardage. Was BenJarvis Green-Ellis the last time the Bengals were good in short yardage?
January 25Jan 25 comment_1785227 1 hour ago, sparky151 said: Yeah, the Bengals passed at something like an 80+% rate on 4th down and 3 yards or less last year. We need to be able to run block and need a power runner who can convert short yardage. Was BenJarvis Green-Ellis the last time the Bengals were good in short yardage? Whenever they're tempted to draft a RB they should use that pick on offensive lineman instead. Best thing they could do for the running game. They were closing in on 70/30 passing at one point. Might as well put an extra OT in the backfield at that rate.
January 25Jan 25 comment_1785229 59 minutes ago, T-Dub said: IWhenever they're tempted to draft a RB they should use that pick on offensive lineman instead. Best thing they could do for the running game. They were closing in on 70/30 passing at one point. Might as well put an extra OT in the backfield at that rate. Yet they’ve whiffed with almost every O-line pick since Zeitler. Definitely had a better track record picking RB. Nothing changes unless the defense improves. For all the talk about the O-line, even with multiple injuries, the offense finished 5th in DVOA and 6th in scoring. Clearly the defense was THE problem.
January 25Jan 25 comment_1785231 2 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Yet they’ve whiffed with almost every O-line pick since Zeitler. Definitely had a better track record picking RB. Nothing changes unless the defense improves. For all the talk about the O-line, even with multiple injuries, the offense finished 5th in DVOA and 6th in scoring. Clearly the defense was THE problem. That's mostly true but I don't think they can go into next year with Volson and Cappa as the starting guards & expect to win a championship.
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