bengaled Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1329946475' post='1098277'] Ok, so what if the Bengals have the Giants sign Wallace to a contract offer, then have a trade set up to get Wallace? [/quote] did you consider the cap ramifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 It would be the same as if the Bengals signed him as long as the trade happens before the roster bonus date is reached. The only thing I would be unsure of is the signing bonus, but that could be compensated in the roster bonus. Sothe Bengals give a copy of a contract offer for Wallace and tell them that if they make the offer to Wallace and give up their 32nd pick in the draft, the Bengals will in turn give the Giants their 21st pick in the draft for Wallace to compensate for the Giants losing their draft pick. So essentially the Steelers get the worst possible first round pick they can get, the Giants move up 11 spots in the first for basically the cost of screwing the Steelers, and the Bengals get the player they want at the price they were willing to give up, and get to screw a divisional rival at the same time. The Rooneys sends the Maras a big bag of flaming shit for Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorclaws Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1329948231' post='1098293'] It would be the same as if the Bengals signed him as long as the trade happens before the roster bonus date is reached. The only thing I would be unsure of is the signing bonus, but that could be compensated in the roster bonus. Sothe Bengals give a copy of a contract offer for Wallace and tell them that if they make the offer to Wallace and give up their 32nd pick in the draft, the Bengals will in turn give the Giants their 21st pick in the draft for Wallace to compensate for the Giants losing their draft pick. So essentially the Steelers get the worst possible first round pick they can get, the Giants move up 11 spots in the first for basically the cost of screwing the Steelers, and the Bengals get the player they want at the price they were willing to give up, and get to screw a divisional rival at the same time. The Rooneys sends the Maras a big bag of flaming shit for Christmas. [/quote] i like it.... much more realistic than my scenario assuming the cap stuff works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldcat Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='bengaled' timestamp='1329947793' post='1098291'] i guess you must have missed the previous conversations pertaining to all this. [/quote] I heard it was several board member's theory that it was 'your' pick that was required. I don't think that is the case, and was amplifying a statement I made before that someone was confused about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewdog Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 PFT: [quote] [b] Mike Wallace: I want to stay in Pittsburgh, but it’s a business[/b] Posted by Michael David Smith on February 22, 2012, 4:42 PM EST[img]http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/610x17.jpg?w=250[/img] Getty Images Amid increasing [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/21/talk-heats-up-in-pittsburgh-that-mike-wallace-could-leave/"]talk that he could leave Pittsburgh[/url], soon-to-be free agent receiver [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5329/mike-wallace"]Mike Wallace[/url] says he wants to remain with the Steelers. But in the next breath, he acknowledges it’s entirely possible he’ll leave. Wallace said in an interview with SiriusXM NFL Radio that he’s not sure if it will be possible for the Steelers to keep him. “[Pittsburgh is] where I would like to be, but [url="http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_782952.html"]we all know that it is a business and you have certain things you have to handle[/url],” Wallace said, via the [i]Pittsburgh Tribune-Review[/i]. “So if I have to go elsewhere, you know Pittsburgh will always be in my heart, but I have to do what I have to do.” Wallace is a restricted free agent, and the cap-strapped Steelers aren’t expected to use the franchise tag to hold onto him. That means another team can sign Wallace away for the price of a first-round pick. Wallace said the Steelers and his agent, Bus Cook, are working on getting a deal done before the free agency period starts, but that doesn’t sound likely. “Yeah, we are talking, but I don`t know how far they are going to get right now because of the situation,” Wallace said. “I know that they are working hard trying to take care of it, but I don`t know. We’ll see.” What we’re likely to see is Wallace testing the market in three weeks, and signing an offer sheet from another team that the Steelers just can’t afford to match.[/quote] [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/22/mike-wallace-i-want-to-stay-in-pittsburgh-but-its-a-business/"]http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/22/mike-wallace-i-want-to-stay-in-pittsburgh-but-its-a-business/[/url] There you go Weston. So he will sign other offers, you can trash that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Oldcat' timestamp='1329950302' post='1098303'] I heard it was several board member's theory that it was 'your' pick that was required. I don't think that is the case, and was amplifying a statement I made before that someone was confused about. [/quote] "Any Club that does not have available, in the upcom-ing Draft, the selection choice or choices ([b]its own or better choices[/b] in the applicable rounds) needed to provide Draft Choice Compensation in the event of a timely First Refusal Exercise Notice may not sign an Offer Sheet in such circumstances." [url="http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf"]http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='CTBengalsFan' timestamp='1329479683' post='1096617'] If the Steelers put a first round tender on him, do we give him a front-loaded contract that Pitt can't match because they're so hard up against the cap? He's young enough and good enough to be worth a first rounder, easy IMO, especially since we have two. He and AJ lining up on opposite sides... [/quote] Didn't he used to be on 60 Minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Cricket' timestamp='1329958512' post='1098342'] "Any Club that does not have available, in the upcom-ing Draft, the selection choice or choices ([b]its own or better choices[/b] in the applicable rounds) needed to provide Draft Choice Compensation in the event of a timely First Refusal Exercise Notice may not sign an Offer Sheet in such circumstances." [url="http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/collective-bargaining-agreement-2011-2020.pdf"]http://nfllabor.file...t-2011-2020.pdf[/url] [/quote] Good find Cricket, that clears all that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [img]http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzueh29vDd1r077uso1_400.png[/img][color=#555555] At dinner last night, a NFL scout came over to our table and we talked about a few things, but Steelers WR Mike Wallace convo finished the conversation. Of all of the scenarios that could happen in a few weeks, this scout thought that the Ravens and Patriots are the favorites to steal the star WR away from the Steelers. Both need WRs and both are teams that fight with the Steelers year in and year out. [url="http://jt97.tumblr.com/"]http://jt97.tumblr.com/[/url][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatorclaws Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1330005033' post='1098393'] [color=#555555]At dinner last night, a NFL scout came over to our table and we talked about a few things, but Steelers WR Mike Wallace convo finished the conversation. Of all of the scenarios that could happen in a few weeks, this scout thought that the Ravens and Patriots are the favorites to steal the star WR away from the Steelers. Both need WRs and both are teams that fight with the Steelers year in and year out.[/color] [color=#555555][url="http://jt97.tumblr.com/"]http://jt97.tumblr.com/[/url][/color] [/quote] I have a hard time seeing the Ravens getting involved. They've already got Smith as their speed guy and he had a pretty solid year. I do think the Patriots are a perfect match though and I'd be kind of surprised if they don't get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [quote name='gatorclaws' timestamp='1330009497' post='1098416'] I have a hard time seeing the Ravens getting involved. They've already got Smith as their speed guy and he had a pretty solid year. I do think the Patriots are a perfect match though and I'd be kind of surprised if they don't get him. [/quote] yea I think the Ravens stuff is ridiculous. They have boldin smith pitta and dickson, and they aren't going to give a first round pick to their biggest rival. The Patriots I could see if they work out a decent deal for welker. I think darkhorses are teams like philly and chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Ravens are already stressing over how to keep grubbs and rice and deal with flacco wanting a deal now. They dont seem likely to have coin. Or to want to give up their only first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [size=6][b]Steelers feel good about keeping Wallace[/b][/size] By GEOFF HOBSON Posted 31 minutes ago INDIANAPOLIS — In his podium appearance Thursday, Steelers football boss Kevin Colbert insisted Pittsburgh is confident it will keep restricted free agent wide receiver Mike Wallace in an effort to support Pro Bowl quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. Colbert said at the very least the club would offer Wallace a one-year deal that would net first-round compensation if it didn't match and left open the possibility the Steelers would put a franchise tag on him. The Bengals are seeking a running mate for Pro Bowl rookie A.J. Green at wide receiver, but with Green looking at franchise numbers himself after the 2013 season, Cincinnati isn't going to engage in that kind of mega deal for a wideout. The Bengals could find their No. 2 receiver in the first couple rounds of the April draft while keeping the decks clear at that spot in the anticipation of Green's big deal. Colbert admitted he wouldn't be surprised if a team signed Wallace to an offer sheet in exchange for a first-rounder, but also said he feels like Wallace wants to stay a Steeler. "We have the ultimate decision. It's not like a player that's an unrestricted free agent," Colbert said of their right to match. "Ultimately it will be our decision. "We're going to do everything we can to make sure Mike Wallace remains a Pittsburgh Steeler and I think that's Mike's belief as well. Usually when you have two parties that share the same goal, it's usually easier to achieve that goal." But with the Steelers, Bengals and the other 30 teams waiting for an official salary cap number for 2012 (the estimate is about the same last year at $120 million), Colbert is hesitant to say much else except that the Steelers are going to keep going with their massive project of restructuring and terminating deals in order to pare down a huge number from last year's uncapped year. Colbert also admitted that the emergence of Wallace, a third-rounder in 2009, and Antonio Brown, a sixth-round punt returner whose deal is up next year, as Pro Bowlers was a complete surprise, as is the rise of 2010 third-round receiver Emmanuel Sanders, also up in 2013. "Trust me, there was no design to drafting those three receivers when we did," Colbert said. "When you have a great quarterback like we have, the more great players you can get around him the better your chances." http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Steelers-feel-good-about-keeping-Wallace/6b4a7a20-8458-44ae-bac0-d88ca3058ef6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dautcom08 Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 That was sort of my thinking that they would be hesitant to throw out a big contract to another WR in efforts of re-upping AJ long term in the next couple years. If Wallace prohibits that, then I don't want it I want AJ retiring a Bengal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 [size=6][b]Going after Wallace wouldn’t be wise[/b][/size] 02/23/12 at 2:53pm • Written by jreedy During the NFL Scouting Combine on Thursday, Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert said that Pittsburgh at a minimum would place a first-round restricted tender on wide receiver Mike Wallace and did not rule out applying the franchise tag. The big problem for the Steelers right now is that they are approximately $10 million over the salary cap with still a lot of restructuring of contracts and roster moves to make before the new league year starts on March 13. Said Colbert about the Steelers cap woes: “We knew the uncapped season (2010) we ran above the cap and we knew there would be consequences down the line. We’ll deal with it and how we get there over the next 2 1/2 weeks I can’t tell you.” This is one of those rare situations because Wallace, who was drafted in the third round in 2009, has developed into a Pro Bowl player and was signed to a three-year contract. Until the new collective bargaining agreement, all players drafted receive a minimum of a four-year deal. Up until the new CBA, the Steelers signed players picked after the second round to only three-year contracts. Wallace led receivers in the division in catches (72) and yards (1,193). He also had seven receptions of 40 yards or more. There has been some speculation that the Bengals might be one of the teams to try and sign Wallace to an offer sheet with the Patriots, Niners and Ravens also mentioned as possibly being interested. “I’m not going to get into individual teams. We just know that Mike is a restricted free agent, we tender him and he’ll have the opportunity to listen to offers,” Colbert said. “We know we’re going to have to do more (to get under the cap). We know we’re going to have to terminate players. We just don’t know how much restructuring we have left to do.” As much as signing Wallace to an offer sheet would hurt a division rival and put them in an untenable situation, here are the reasons why it doesn’t make sense for the Bengals: * They need a No. 2 receiver who is more of a possession guy and can make the tough catches on short to medium routes. That was something Jerome Simpson and Andre Caldwell did not do last season. Once Jordan Shipley went down early in the season, Jermaine Gresham became that safety net. * Wallace doesn’t fit the style of Jay Gruden’s offense. If this was a Bob Bratkowski system with Carson Palmer as the quarterback, get as many receivers who can stretch the field. Plus Andy Dalton is not the type of quarterback where you want to be consistently taking deep shots downfield. * They already have that receiver who can stretch the field in Green. If they happen to re-sign Simpson and he becomes the No. 4 guy, you then have two. (Click the link for the entire article) http://cincinnati.com/blogs/bengals/2012/02/23/going-after-wallace-wouldnt-be-wise/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [b] [size=6]Four teams that should target Wallace[/size][/b] [b] [size=6]Four teams that should go after the Pittsburgh Steelers' restricted free agent[/size][/b] By KC Joyner ESPN Insider For any NFL team, jumping into the free-agency pool can be a hazardous exercise fraught with risk, but that potential risk increases dramatically when dealing with the restricted free-agent (RFA) pool. Unlike unrestricted free agents (UFA), RFA candidates this season will cost a prospective new employer not only the dollar value of a contract, but also as much as a first-round selection in the 2012 NFL draft (depending on the RFA tender placed on the player by his 2011 team). The [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633206/pittsburgh-steelers-franchise-wr-mike-wallace-source-says"]first-round tender[/url] RFA situation is exactly what [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers"]Pittsburgh Steelers[/url] wideout [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12601/mike-wallace"]Mike Wallace[/url] finds himself in now, but despite that high cost it is rumored that there is [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog/_/name/schefter_adam/id/7602003/mailbag-mike-wallace-free-agency-nfl-combine"]still interest[/url] in acquiring him. The reason for that interest is Wallace has a history of elite performance. Last October, I showed how Wallace is a [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7122234/nfl-why-mike-wallace-bigger-gamebreaker-calvin-johnson"]better game-breaker[/url] than [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10447/calvin-johnson"]Calvin Johnson[/url], and Grantland's Bill Barnwell recently wrote an article offering more evidence as to Wallace's [url="http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/18362/free-agent-preview-mike-wallace"]dominant production levels[/url]. However, not all situations are created equal when it comes to teams that may want to acquire Wallace. There are four main factors that will impact how motivated each team should be to sign him. These are: 1. Their level of need for a dominant vertical wide receiver 2. Their salary-cap situation 3. The level of first-round pick they would have to give up 4. Their incentive level for making life tougher for the Steelers (from a salary-cap and/or personnel perspective) By gauging each of these on a scale of 1-10 (1 being not motivated at all, 10 being completely motivated), we can come up with a "Wallace factor," indicating just how interested the four teams with a realistic chance to sign him should be in pursuing the Steelers wide receiver. [i]Note: Salary-cap information is fluid and changing daily, so teams' specific cap numbers aren't listed.[/i] [b] [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots"]New England Patriots[/url][/b] [b]Need for vertical wide receiver:[/b] 6 of 10 [b]Level of first-round draft choice: [/b]10 of 10 (No. 31 pick) [b]Steelers incentive level:[/b] 9 of 10 [b]Total Wallace factor points:[/b] 25 That [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/2330/tom-brady"]Tom Brady[/url] was able to post an 11.6 vertical yards per attempt (VYPA) mark (fifth best in the league) despite throwing 91 vertical passes to tight ends, speaks volumes for the genius of New England's creative play calling. However, it still doesn't mask the fact Brady's 10.9 stretch vertical YPA (SVYPA) ranked tied for 20th. (Note: Vertical passes are aerials thrown 11 or more yards downfield, while stretch vertical passes are thrown 20 or more yards). This problem calls for the addition of a wideout who can take over the [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1433/randy-moss"]Randy Moss[/url] role that helped Brady have one of the best seasons in NFL history in 2007. The draft is deep at the wide receiver position but none of the wideout prospects who will be available at the No. 31 pick are likely to be anywhere near as good as Wallace, especially in the next few years when the Patriots have a viable Super Bowl window. Throw in the high ceiling in projected cap room and the ability to severely damage the Super Bowl chances of a tough AFC rival, and it makes the Wallace-to-New England move a near no-brainer. [b] [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sf/san-francisco-49ers"]San Francisco 49ers[/url][/b] [b]Need for vertical wide receiver:[/b] 7 [b]Level of first-round draft choice: [/b]10 (No. 30 pick) [b]Steelers incentive level:[/b] 6 [b]Total Wallace factor points:[/b] 23 The 49ers nearly made it to the Super Bowl last year with their mix of a conservative offense and bruising defense, but the odds of their long-term success will greatly increase if they can improve their downfield passing numbers. [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8416/alex-smith"]Alex Smith[/url] has shown in the past that he is capable of posting near top-10 caliber statistics in various [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7464201/tim-tebow-denver-broncos-sustain-season-success-nfl"]route depth categories[/url], but San Francisco's subpar wide receiving corps last year was a prime reason he ranked 17th in VYPA (10.4). The Niners may not have quite the incentive as the AFC contenders to hinder the Steelers' chances to keep Wallace, but their low first-round draft status and healthy salary-cap standing make this acquisition more than a sensible transaction. [b] [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens"]Baltimore Ravens[/url][/b] [b]Need for vertical wide receiver:[/b] 4 [b]Level of first-round draft choice:[/b] 9 (No. 29 pick) [b]Steelers incentive level:[/b] 10 [b]Total Wallace factor points:[/b] 23 At first glance, Wallace looks like a great addition for the Ravens because of the low cost of the first-round draft pick and the chance to put one over on a hated division rival. At a closer look, however, the move isn't quite as solid as it seems to be on the initial review. Baltimore already has a dominant vertical and stretch vertical threat in [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14032/torrey-smith"]Torrey Smith[/url] (12.3 VYPA, 14.2 SVYPA) and its salary-cap situation, while solid, could become hampered with the addition of a high-priced free agent. These factors are among the reasons Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome recently stated that Baltimore [url="http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43003/ravens-not-interested-in-steelers-wallace"]wasn't interested[/url] in signing Wallace, though it would still be a great move at the right price. [b] [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-bengals"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url][/b] [b]Need for vertical wide receiver:[/b] 3 [b]Level of first-round draft choice: [/b]7 (No. 21 pick) [b]Steelers incentive level:[/b] 10 [b]Total Wallace factor points:[/b] 20 What a perfect fit this would be. The Bengals would give up a relatively low first-round pick while hurting a division rival and barely denting their salary-cap situation. Need more? Consider this: [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14012/andy-dalton"]Andy Dalton[/url]'s 11.0 VYPA ranked tied for seventh best in the league. If he was able to do that as a rookie, with a rookie wide receiver ([url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13983/aj-green"]A.J. Green[/url]) as his top pass-catcher, just imagine this passing game's ceiling if Dalton had both Green and Wallace at his disposal. The Bengals would have the potential to be one of the NFL's elite passing offenses. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7632004/nfl-four-teams-interested-mike-wallace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1330698484' post='1101287'] [b] [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-bengals"]Cincinnati Bengals[/url][/b] [b]Need for vertical wide receiver:[/b] 3 [b]Level of first-round draft choice: [/b]7 (No. 21 pick) [b]Steelers incentive level:[/b] 10 [b]Total Wallace factor points:[/b] 20 What a perfect fit this would be. The Bengals would give up a relatively low first-round pick while hurting a division rival and barely denting their salary-cap situation. Need more? Consider this: [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/14012/andy-dalton"]Andy Dalton[/url]'s 11.0 VYPA ranked tied for seventh best in the league. If he was able to do that as a rookie, with a rookie wide receiver ([url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13983/aj-green"]A.J. Green[/url]) as his top pass-catcher, just imagine this passing game's ceiling if Dalton had both Green and Wallace at his disposal. The Bengals would have the potential to be one of the NFL's elite passing offenses. [url="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7632004/nfl-four-teams-interested-mike-wallace"]http://insider.espn....ed-mike-wallace[/url] [/quote] Yes please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='Jackie Treehorn' timestamp='1330698836' post='1101290'] Yes please! [/quote] x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooky Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 Mike Wallace will not be a Bengal this season. Don't fall for the hype. I will take all bets that he doesn't come here. Who knows if Gruden's even interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I just can't see the bengals giving the stealers an extra first round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschooler Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1330699672' post='1101295'] I just can't see the bengals giving the stealers an extra first round pick. [/quote] Well, it's not like they'd be "giving" it to them. They would be "taking" something that is very important to them. And probably worth more than anything we or they could get with that pick. But with that said, I really don't think it will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Lucid| Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 [quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1330699672' post='1101295'] I just can't see the bengals giving the stealers an extra first round pick. [/quote] If you know they are getting it anyway, what's the difference? I can see the Bengals being hesitant to be the team to give it.. But if there are multiple suitors, and you are certain someone will give them a 1st rounder. Then you have to see it as a null issue.. If the Bengals don't do it (and I'm not suggesting they should) and someone else does, then the stealers still get an extra first round pick (possible one higher than ours) and we don't have Wallace. I think in that instance you have to weigh the merit of what you get in the player vs what you have to give up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluhartz Posted March 2, 2012 Report Share Posted March 2, 2012 I actually don't think it will either.... but I can hope.... As has been said a million times, it hurts the stealers and gets us a great young reciever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTBengalsFan Posted March 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 [b] Mike Wallace can be yours for a first-round pick[/b] Posted by Michael David Smith on March 5, 2012, 6:56 PM EST [img]http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/x6107.jpg?w=172[/img][right][i]AP[/i][/right][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]The Steelers made official what was widely expected today, declining to place the franchise tag on restricted free agent wide receiver [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5329/mike-wallace"]Mike Wallace[/url].[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]That means that any team can sign Wallace to an offer sheet, and if the cap-strapped Steelers don’t match the offer, Wallace will cost only one first-round draft pick. [/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]Acquiring a 25-year-old who’s arguably the best deep threat in the NFL for a first-round draft pick isn’t a bad deal at all, especially if there’s a playoff contender that believes a big-play receiver is just the thing they need to win the Super Bowl.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]For the Steelers, matching a lucrative offer to Wallace would be tough. Although they’ve made several moves in the last week to free up salary cap space, they’re still not in great cap shape. And they’re in a tough spot because they know they’ll face the same situation again next year when receiver [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5698/antonio-brown"]Antonio Brown[/url] becomes a restricted free agent. Brown was voted the Steelers’ MVP in 2011, and the Steelers would like to keep him beyond 2012, the final year of his current contract. If they tie up a lot of money and cap space in a new contract for Wallace this year, it may be harder to find the money and cap space to devote to Brown next year.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]If Wallace ultimately just signs his one-year tender offer as a restricted free agent, he’ll come at a very affordable price of $2.7 million. But in that scenario, Wallace and Brown would both be free agents at this time next year. (Steelers receiver[url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5885/emmanuel-sanders"]Emmanuel Sanders[/url] becomes a restricted free agent next year, too.)[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]Add it all up, and the Steelers may decide that matching an offer for Wallace isn’t in the cards, and that they’ll be glad to take a first-round draft pick from the team that signs him. At the moment, however, Steelers G.M. Kevin Colbert is stressing that it’s up to the Steelers.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]“He could get offer from another team, but ultimately we get to make the decision on Mike,” Colbert said on Steelers.com today.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]Of course, the Steelers already made one decision, not to franchise Wallace. But Colbert said that with the Steelers’ cap situation, the franchise tag is just not a realistic option.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]“We don’t have the cap room of having the luxury of using the franchise tag this season,” Colbert said.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]If he does get an offer from another team, which team would it be? One of the most intriguing possibilities is New England. The Patriots’ first-round pick is a low one (No. 31 overall), so they may not think it’s a lot to give up to give [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1163/tom-brady"]Tom Brady[/url] a speedy receiver like Wallace. And the Patriots have two first-round picks (they acquired the Saints’ first-rounder in a trade last year), so they could still be players on draft day if they give their own first-round pick away. Plus, the Patriots wouldn’t mind taking one of the best offensive players away from one of their biggest AFC rivals.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]There’s also been chatter in San Francisco that the 49ers would love to add Wallace to their receiving corps. With the 30th pick in the first round of the draft, the 49ers are another team that could decide that Wallace will be far more productive than any rookie they could add this year.[/size][/font][/left][left][font=georgia,serif][size=4]In any event, every team with a need at receiver has to be thinking about signing Wallace to an offer sheet. And the Steelers have to be thinking that their top receiver in 2011 may be gone in 2012.[/size][/font] [/left] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted April 19, 2012 Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 [quote name='Lewdog' timestamp='1329706520' post='1097379'] Sure Jones is old, but Battle gave them a pick up when they needed it after everyone else got hurt. He had never gotten the chance before. McCluster is a hybrid guy that can play WR or RB and every time he touches the ball has a chance to take it to the house. KC needs to stick with the running game game complimented by a short passing game. Crennel is going to need a good offensive coordinator because he sucks at offensive strategy. He did in Cleveland and will in KC. [/quote] Battle and Jones are still unsigned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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