Browns to interview Zimmer:Update, hire Chudzinski

[Jungle1]

I understand Zimmer wants to be a HC. A lot of people have aspirations to get to the top of their profession/company. Saying that, I would hate to lose him and definitely would be bummed out to see him go to a division rival.

On the bright side, nightmares of AJ Green would keep him awake a few times a year

[Elijah15]

go to san diego zim, fuck cleveland

[|High School Harry|]

[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1357753103' post='1206751']
this would be my frontrunner.



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How in the Hell can anybody give any credibility to anything sports related to someone named Mary Kay?

Who is she, anyway, Brady Quiff's former cosmetic sales girl?

[|Bunghole|]

Bill Walsh comparisons aside (really Jamie?), I would welcome some fresh blood in the ranks. Zimmer's been here what, five years? That sounds about the right shelf life for a coordinator that's decent. I don't blame him for wanting to go for a HC position, although the fact that he's being considered for the Browns job may speak volumes about what other teams with coaching vacancies think about Zimmer or how desperate the Browns are. I just wish it was Marvin Lewis that was leaving to go somewhere else, or to stay in the organization as a manager, just not our HC anymore. I am tired of him.

[bengaled]

if i was mike/marvin, there would have been a verbal agreement you're free to advance your career, but you don't do it within the division. we've been good to you, we're being good to you now, don't turn that around and drive a stake through our hearts when we allow you out of your contract.

[|Bunghole|]

[quote name='bengaled' timestamp='1357777403' post='1206869']
if i was mike/marvin, there would have been a verbal agreement you're free to advance your career, but you don't do it within the division. we've been good to you, we're being good to you now, don't turn that around and drive a stake through our hearts when we allow you out of your contract.
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But dude...it's [i]Cleveland[/i]

[Jeb]

[quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1357777493' post='1206872']
But dude...it's [i]Cleveland[/i]


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Zimmer was going to move on at some point or take our HC job and screw it up, get fired, ...and haunt us as a DC on another team.

Instead, ...let him take the next job and if it doesn't work out then he's welcome back here because I doubt we will find anyone as good of a DC as Zimmer, ...he's a natural for that spot.

[bengals8580]

[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1357764559' post='1206833']
which player on defense is good enough to cover the tight end? Can't blame zimmer if he doesn't have a player that can do it well.

And I'm sure zimmer had nothing to do with the dline being awesome.
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We haven't been able to cover the tight end during Zim's entire tenure here. So that part of his scheme is not working. He's a good coach, I just think he's overrated. Dunlap, Peko, Atkins, and Johnson are good players. Has very little to do with the DC. I don't think losing Zim alone would really hurt our defense. Him taking some position coaches, along with some of our veteran free agents following him, would hurt.

My guess is that he gets the Cleveland job and fails miserably. And it has nothing to do with him. It's Cleveland. If he's going to leave and be an enemy, Cleveland would be my ideal choice. Cleveland will always suck.

[|Lucid|]

[quote name='bengals8580' timestamp='1357797706' post='1206914']
We haven't been able to cover the tight end during Zim's entire tenure here. So that part of his scheme is not working. He's a good coach, I just think he's overrated. Dunlap, Peko, Atkins, and Johnson are good players. Has very little to do with the DC. I don't think losing Zim alone would really hurt our defense. Him taking some position coaches, along with some of our veteran free agents following him, would hurt.

My guess is that he gets the Cleveland job and fails miserably. And it has nothing to do with him. It's Cleveland. If he's going to leave and be an enemy, Cleveland would be my ideal choice. Cleveland will always suck.
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This is a circular argument.. Of course a good defense is going to have what are perceived as good players. When has there ever been a great defense made up of shitty players that fail? At what point does the coach get credit for the defense putting up great numbers? What you are saying is that a coach is never responsible for the success of their unit.

Zim has done it with low round talent and castoffs. Not sure what other measuring stick you could use....

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='bengals8580' timestamp='1357797706' post='1206914']
We haven't been able to cover the tight end during Zim's entire tenure here. So that part of his scheme is not working. He's a good coach, I just think he's overrated. Dunlap, Peko, Atkins, and Johnson are good players. Has very little to do with the DC. I don't think losing Zim alone would really hurt our defense. Him taking some position coaches, along with some of our veteran free agents following him, would hurt.

My guess is that he gets the Cleveland job and fails miserably. And it has nothing to do with him. It's Cleveland. If he's going to leave and be an enemy, Cleveland would be my ideal choice. Cleveland will always suck.
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This sounds like Ravens fans before Marvin Lewis got here.

Sorry but I fully believe Zimmer will have success wherever he goes, which is exactly why I dont want it to be the Browns.

[bubba]

[quote name='Bengals1181' timestamp='1357764559' post='1206833']


which player on defense is good enough to cover the tight end? Can't blame zimmer if he doesn't have a player that can do it well.

And I'm sure zimmer had nothing to do with the dline being awesome.
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Lamur

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='bengals8580' timestamp='1357797706' post='1206914']
We haven't been able to cover the tight end during Zim's entire tenure here. So that part of his scheme is not working. He's a good coach, I just think he's overrated. Dunlap, Peko, Atkins, and Johnson are good players. Has very little to do with the DC. I don't think losing Zim alone would really hurt our defense. Him taking some position coaches, along with some of our veteran free agents following him, would hurt.

My guess is that he gets the Cleveland job and fails miserably. And it has nothing to do with him. It's Cleveland. If he's going to leave and be an enemy, Cleveland would be my ideal choice. Cleveland will always suck.
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go read interviews about what the players think about zimmer and what they've done for their careers.

[Bengals1181]

[quote name='bubba' timestamp='1357821505' post='1206930']
Lamur
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potentially. He looked good at times in coverage and bad at others.

[fluhartz]

[quote name='BigDawgBengal' timestamp='1357762702' post='1206820']
[b]No. He is overrated and has been fired by three teams already.[/b] Plus his background is a 3-4 defense.
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Exactly.. He gets by on the Ryan name...
He has had one top ten defense in ten years, and he is a blowhard asshole like his brother... F-him

[|Bunghole|]

But he has cool hair!

[fluhartz]

[quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1357823960' post='1206941']
But he has cool hair!
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good point....

[Vol_Bengal]

As a few others have mentioned... I really like Zimmer.

But, part of me thinks he's so detail oriented that he'd get burdened down with a HC job and not be able to "see the forest for the trees" so to speak. If there is a person so in tune to the fine minutia it can bog them down and part of me thinks it'd be that way for Zimmer. That is what makes him a great DC - multiply the workload by about 3 or 4... can he handle it? I don't know. And, Zimmer is blunt and honest. How does that play as a HC? I like that about a person - a lot of people don't. They just want to hear titties and apple butter.

As for Cleveland... hate the place but with Haslam going in there I fully expect him to drop the money necessary and instill the culture change required for them to get it turned around and make that organization a potential winner.

[saphead]

[quote name='Bunghole' timestamp='1357823960' post='1206941']
But he has cool hair!
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And the cameras would be focused on him instead of Marvins' spaced out look whenever the wheels fall off in any particular game!

[Le Tigre]

Both Zimmer and Chudzinski left town without a word. Reading where the Brownies are going to interview Arians now.

[Jason]

It might almost be worth it if he takes Maualuga (and no one else) with him.

[texbengal]

[quote name='Vol_Bengal' timestamp='1357824675' post='1206943']
As a few others have mentioned... I really like Zimmer.

But, part of me thinks he's so detail oriented that he'd get burdened down with a HC job and not be able to "see the forest for the trees" so to speak. If there is a person so in tune to the fine minutia it can bog them down and part of me thinks it'd be that way for Zimmer. That is what makes him a great DC - multiply the workload by about 3 or 4... can he handle it? I don't know. And, Zimmer is blunt and honest. How does that play as a HC? I like that about a person - a lot of people don't. They just want to hear titties and apple butter.

As for Cleveland... hate the place but with Haslam going in there I fully expect him to drop the money necessary and instill the culture change required for them to get it turned around and make that organization a potential winner.
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A lot of what you're saying are things that were said about Marvin Lewis. Just sayin'.

I think Zimmer can be successful as a head coach - he's organized, he demands accountability, etc. He's made guys better (how many reclamation projects has he been part of here), made chicken salad from chicken shit (his #1 defense in Dallas had a lot of ordinary players), and he's handled big egos well (Deion Sanders swears by him).

Cleveland scares me from a roster standpoint - great RB, QB who improved as the season went along, strong OL, some developing young WRs, and a very solid defense. Were Zimmer to go there, I don't think it'd be long before they were a playoff contending team.

[Le Tigre]

As for Todd Haley:

[i]Todd Haley's job interview in Arizona is off to a strange start.[/i]

[i]Last week, it was reported that the [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/PIT/pittsburgh-steelers"]Steelers[/url] offensive coordinator [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/21494339/nfl-coaching-rumor-roundup-friday-jan-4"]wasn't sure[/url] if he would interview for the [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/ARI/arizona-cardinals"]Cardinals[/url] head coaching job because he apparently loves working for the Steelers. On Wednesday, CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reported that Haley [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason-la-canfora/21527479/todd-haley-interviewing-for-cardinals-head-coaching-job"]would interview for the job[/url].[/i]

[i]“He is formerly a coordinator with Arizona and is thought of very highly by ownership,” La Canfora wrote.[/i]

[i]Which sounded great and all. Until Haley's agent told [url="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/289094310547320832"]NFL Network's[/url] Ian Rapoport this:[/i]

[i]“The report is wrong,” Jerome Stanley said (editor's note: it's unclear if Stanley was referring to La Canfora's report). “I stand by my statement. Period. You can report that!"[/i]

[i]Stanley's statement was that Haley -- who reportedly wanted to be sure he'd actually have a good chance to land the Cardinals job before sitting down with them -- was not interviewing in Arizona. [/i]

[i]What say you, Steelers president Art Rooney?[/i]


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[i]So, all of this is weird, right? Why would Haley's agent, who you'd think would want Haley's name out there as much as possible, deny he was interviewing for a job, especially when the Steelers are saying it's true?[/i]

[i]Well, there has been scuttlebutt in the past that Mike Tomlin's first choice for offensive coordinator last year was running backs coach Kirby Wilson -- who was [url="http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/34217705"]badly burned in a fire[/url] in January 2012 and had to take a leave of absence -- and not Haley.[/i]

[i]If Haley leaves Pittsburgh, Tomlin could promote Wilson to replace him.[/i]

[i]Is all of this likely? Who knows, but with the turns this story has taken, nothing is inconceivable. [/i]

[oldschooler]

Cincy Jungle >> Report: Browns Want Second Interview With Bengals DC Mike Zimmer [url="http://t.co/eWtjN4hK"]http://buzztap.com/-TFw7eF[/url]

[bubba]

[quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1357867520' post='1207168']
Cincy Jungle >> Report: Browns Want Second Interview With Bengals DC Mike Zimmer [url="http://t.co/eWtjN4hK"]http://buzztap.com/-TFw7eF[/url]
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Boo

[Jamie_B]

[quote name='oldschooler' timestamp='1357867520' post='1207168']
Cincy Jungle >> Report: Browns Want Second Interview With Bengals DC Mike Zimmer [url="http://t.co/eWtjN4hK"]http://buzztap.com/-TFw7eF[/url]
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