SFMAJOR Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Well,. Looks like the Bengals are parting ways with PJ Dawson. Any surprises here??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texbengal Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 I was surprised, but not shocked. Reading the tea leaves for awhile, even from Gary Patterson's comments when he was at TCU, he sounded like a guy who didn't always put in the work during the week, but showed up and showed out on game day. I saw a lot of Frogs' games, and he was a beast. Paulie Guenther had some cautionary comments this spring, and it sounds like PJ didn't do enough to gain the coaches' trust. Basically, he sounds like a knucklehead who hasn't learned to be a pro. I'm assuming that consistency, both in preparation and in his play, sunk him. Being late to meetings, etc. isn't going to endear you to anyone, and when you're a pro, no one is going to coddle you. It'll be interesting to see if he comes back on the PS, and buckles down. Maybe someone else will claim him, because I believe he can play, but he needs an attitude adjustment wherever he ends up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Numbers| Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 2 hours ago, texbengal said: I was surprised, but not shocked. Reading the tea leaves for awhile, even from Gary Patterson's comments when he was at TCU, he sounded like a guy who didn't always put in the work during the week, but showed up and showed out on game day. I saw a lot of Frogs' games, and he was a beast. Paulie Guenther had some cautionary comments this spring, and it sounds like PJ didn't do enough to gain the coaches' trust. Basically, he sounds like a knucklehead who hasn't learned to be a pro. I'm assuming that consistency, both in preparation and in his play, sunk him. Being late to meetings, etc. isn't going to endear you to anyone, and when you're a pro, no one is going to coddle you. It'll be interesting to see if he comes back on the PS, and buckles down. Maybe someone else will claim him, because I believe he can play, but he needs an attitude adjustment wherever he ends up. Do you remember what Guenther's comments were ? Were they similar to the comments he made when he called out Geno ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 He slipped in the draft for a reason and unlike Burfict didn't have the passion. I also thinks this speaks to how well Trevor Roach played and see him along with Vigil and Burfict as the future and eventual starting 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve4192 Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 21 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: He slipped in the draft for a reason and unlike Burfict didn't have the passion. I also thinks this speaks to how well Trevor Roach played and see him along with Vigil and Burfict as the future and eventual starting 3. I like Roach, but don't think he is starting material. I see his future role as more of a Vinny Rey type, a quality backup who you don't mind seeing in the game, but not a guy you want to see getting the majority of the snaps at a position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelWeston Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: He slipped in the draft for a reason and unlike Burfict didn't have the passion. I also thinks this speaks to how well Trevor Roach played and see him along with Vigil and Burfict as the future and eventual starting 3. This is a great point. It's all relative. Just pretend you drafted roach in the third round and keep the player who can help you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyrid Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 13 hours ago, texbengal said: I was surprised, but not shocked. Reading the tea leaves for awhile, even from Gary Patterson's comments when he was at TCU, he sounded like a guy who didn't always put in the work during the week, but showed up and showed out on game day. I saw a lot of Frogs' games, and he was a beast. Paulie Guenther had some cautionary comments this spring, and it sounds like PJ didn't do enough to gain the coaches' trust. Basically, he sounds like a knucklehead who hasn't learned to be a pro. I'm assuming that consistency, both in preparation and in his play, sunk him. Being late to meetings, etc. isn't going to endear you to anyone, and when you're a pro, no one is going to coddle you. It'll be interesting to see if he comes back on the PS, and buckles down. Maybe someone else will claim him, because I believe he can play, but he needs an attitude adjustment wherever he ends up. Well said. Agree with the surprised but not shocked comment. Also worth noting that special teams probably played a major role in the decision. If the Bengals didn't view Dawson as a guy who was likely to be one of their top 4-5 LBers who was going to play a lot on defense (he was probably 6th behind the 3 starters, Vinny and Vigil), then special teams becomes the primary role for the last couple LBs on the roster. Roach has been a top special teamer and had a pretty big advantage over Dawson there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Looks like they hope to get him back on the practice squad if he passes waivers (today?). They have a spot open. Maybe he will wake up. I hope so, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Paul Dehner Jr. @pauldehnerjr 3m3 minutes ago Dawson's nameplate and things still in his locker. Sign keeping open for the return on PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 In Piggsturd, Raperherburger's nameplate is on the women's rest room and there is a welcome mat in front of the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 2m2 minutes ago Ian Rapoport @RapSheet #Bengals LB PJ Dawson, a former 3rd rounder waived yesterday in a surprise move, was not claimed. Expected back on Cincy’s practice squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kochman Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 Hopefully he gets his head out of his ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishBengal Posted September 5, 2016 Report Share Posted September 5, 2016 This guy is sooo frustrating. If being cut wasn't a warning shot for him to figure things out, there's no hope! But I hope he realises what a second chance opportunity he has on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rumble In the Jungle Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 He's garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Not garbage...his physical talents are undeniable. And it's not stupidity either. It is the Manziel-like Big Man on Campus Syndrome. His crap didn't stink at TCU. Entering the NFL--where everyone is as good or better--meant putting in the time, study, and effort to nudge ahead of those other guys. He didn't. Now he gets the final look over-do it or don't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 7 hours ago, Le Tigre said: Not garbage...his physical talents are undeniable. And it's not stupidity either. It is the Manziel-like Big Man on Campus Syndrome. His crap didn't stink at TCU. Entering the NFL--where everyone is as good or better--meant putting in the time, study, and effort to nudge ahead of those other guys. He didn't. Now he gets the final look over-do it or don't do it. I disagree somewhat. I think it is his instincts that are undeniable, which is something he used to great effect both in college and was serving him ok in the pros -- except when he was confronted with deception or the superior athleticism of the NFL, and then he was caught off guard and generally not in the right position. What Dawson lacks is the athletic ability to make up for that. I see it as a reason that his play actually declined somewhat since last preseason. He is trying to think and play disciplined, assignment based football - which is the only thing that will get you on the field with a Marvin Lewis defense, and it's tripping him up even more. I still think he has a little bit of Burfict in him. Both are actually somewhat limited athletically. The difference is that Burfict is a total student of the game, and he knows what's coming before it happens, and so he's there RIGHT NOW...but he also knows how to do that within the scheme. I though the first rounder talk was laughable when he came out, which was reinforced when lasted till the 99th pick (much the same with Billings, a "first round guy" who somehow lasted until the 4th). Still, when we got him at the end of the 3rd and he became a Bengal I was excited to see his potential tapped - especially because of the great instincts but limited athleticism that I thought could use some Burfict tutoring. Let's hope that the jolt of the practice squad, and perhaps spending some more time watching and listening to Vontaze, ends up helping him reach his full potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodey365 Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 He looked awful against Indy. Had a fumble recovery but whiffed on multiple tackles. I had high hopes for him. Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatternMaster Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 If he doesn't sign to the practice squad soon I have serious doubts he will be back. Sounds like he has a bad reputation which will make it hard for some other team to sign him to the 53 man roster, maybe he will end up on another team's practice squad. The guy has talent but it seems as if he needs to remove his head from his ass and take this opportunity he has seriously before it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 2 hours ago, whodey365 said: whiffed on multiple tackles. I had high hopes for him. Oh well. That's the way I feel about Maualuga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Posted September 6, 2016 Report Share Posted September 6, 2016 Worked out for the Bucs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Don't think hell be back here, if they wanted him on the PS they would have put him there already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 52 minutes ago, Jamie_B said: Don't think hell be back here, if they wanted him on the PS they would have put him there already. He may try to get on a roster first. It's not just up to the team to put him on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Jason said: He may try to get on a roster first. It's not just up to the team to put him on the PS. Nobody claimed him on waivers. If he thinks he can get on a roster, good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Paul Dehner Jr. @pauldehnerjr 47s47 seconds ago PJ Dawson is back at Bengals practice. Must have signed with the practice squad. Geoff Hobson @GeoffHobsonCin 5m5 minutes ago PJ Dawson back in the house. PS add Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve4192 Posted September 7, 2016 Report Share Posted September 7, 2016 Glad to see him back. The guy has amazing instincts on the field. If he can ever learn how to incorporate those instincts within the system and buckle down off the field, he has a chance to be one heck of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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