Posted March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612283 Quote Although they can't officially announce the moves until Wednesday at 4 p.m., the Bengals made their two biggest free agency plays in history Tuesday when published reports said they agreed to terms with one of the best young lineman in the game in Houston nose tackle D.J. Reader and a former first-round cornerback in the Vikings' Trae Waynes while boosting their defense with two impact starters. https://www.bengals.com/news/reports-bengals-enrich-defense-with-two-impact-players
March 17, 20205 yr Author comment_1612285 Skimming info on Wayne he's been a decent enough starter & is a good run defender. That'll go a long way around here & hopefully means Drek is really cleaning out the locker.
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612289 I noticed the "run defender" part as well. Even if you think Waynes is equivalent to Dre in pass coverage, if he even makes an *attempt* to tackle someone running the ball he's a huge upgrade. This has been a weakness in general with Bengals corners. Dennard at least tried but wasn't the best, WJIII also does his best but seems to come up injured/labouring way too often. Generally speaking it's safe to say the Bengals saw the run defense as a big problem, and have made moves to address it. Well done. Now even one upgrade on the OL and we're starting to get somewhere. Add a reliable LB and suddenly it's starting to look like a successful FA period.
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612293 6 minutes ago, HavePityPlease said: I noticed the "run defender" part as well. Even if you think Waynes is equivalent to Dre in pass coverage, if he even makes an *attempt* to tackle someone running the ball he's a huge upgrade. This has been a weakness in general with Bengals corners. Dennard at least tried but wasn't the best, WJIII also does his best but seems to come up injured/labouring way too often. Generally speaking it's safe to say the Bengals saw the run defense as a big problem, and have made moves to address it. Well done. Now even one upgrade on the OL and we're starting to get somewhere. Add a reliable LB and suddenly it's starting to look like a successful FA period. They could use 2 LBs in FA.
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612295 I like the Waynes pickup, on the fence with Reader. I would have loved to see some oline and lb talent added to the roster.
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612297 9 minutes ago, Hooky said: They could use 2 LBs in FA. Yes they could. I would be happy to get 1 LB and 1 OL in FA and a LB at 33 and OL in 3rd. But it does look like they are trying.
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612300 8 minutes ago, PatternMaster said: I like the Waynes pickup, on the fence with Reader. I would have loved to see some oline and lb talent added to the roster. I'm the opposite, I'm 'meh about Waynes and excited about Reader.
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612301 Reader is a better player than Waynes but he's a 2 down player, not a pocket crushing pass rusher.
March 17, 20205 yr Author comment_1612304 2 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Reader is a better player than Waynes but he's a 2 down player, not a pocket crushing pass rusher. IDK, he looks disruptive & quick enough to be part in that rotation. Wonder what this means for Geno?
March 17, 20205 yr comment_1612305 Just now, T-Dub said: IDK, he looks disruptive & quick enough to be part in that rotation. Wonder what this means for Geno? Watching some Reader tape he looks to be a better version of Peko. Geno should be happy.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612310 30 minutes ago, sparky151 said: Reader is a better player than Waynes but he's a 2 down player, not a pocket crushing pass rusher. False.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612315 This at least opens up the draft a little, pushing CB and DL down to the later rounds.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612319 From Field Yates, ESPN: Pairing D.J. Reader with Geno Atkins gives the Bengals one of the best defensive tackle duos in the league. Look past the numbers with Reader; he's an elite interior player who is near impossible to move around. Stud. PFF: The Bengals sign D.J. Reader, who was @PFF’s #2 free agent IDL and the #33 overall free agent in this class. Reader is still just 25 and has been stout vs the run and developed as a pass rusher (36 pressures in ‘19) He was worth 0.14 WAR last season, which was 8th among DI’s.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612323 1 hour ago, sparky151 said: Reader is a better player than Waynes but he's a 2 down player, not a pocket crushing pass rusher. He's a very good pass rusher. He creates havoc in the middle that allows the other lineman to cash in on sacks.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612327 2 hours ago, sparky151 said: Reader is a better player than Waynes but he's a 2 down player, not a pocket crushing pass rusher. If the bengals are now running a hybrid defense,dose this mean Geno Atkins could see less playing time ?
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612328 Neither of these guys even make anybody's Top 100 Free Agent list. but guys like Andrew Billings and Cordy Glenn do....wtf?
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612329 1 minute ago, Duluoz said: Neither of these guys even make anybody's Top 100 Free Agent list. but guys like Andrew Billings and Cordy Glenn do....wtf? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're looking at FAs still available.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612330 3 minutes ago, Duluoz said: Neither of these guys even make anybody's Top 100 Free Agent list. but guys like Andrew Billings and Cordy Glenn do....wtf? Wtf are you even talking about?
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612346 this should probably be in the free agent thread - but - are there any linebackers still out there worth pursuing?
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612355 49 minutes ago, HOF dan said: this should probably be in the free agent thread - but - are there any linebackers still out there worth pursuing? Nigel Bradham Josh Bynes Vigil We have talked to Ogletree At some point I would bet Tahir Whitehead and Denzel Perryman (if released) get looked at. Both played for Golden Not a ton of talent but it's out there.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612368 15 hours ago, BengalMobster said: False. He's got 6.5 sacks in 4 years despite playing with JJ Watt, Whitney Mercilus, and 3 of those years with Clowney. Reader is not an interior pass rusher and will be subbed out in obvious passing situations.
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612369 13 hours ago, bfine said: I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're looking at FAs still available. So you're saying once a FA player signs with a team he's no longer available ?
March 18, 20205 yr comment_1612370 4 minutes ago, Duluoz said: So you're saying once a FA player signs with a team he's no longer available ? Yes.
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