gupps Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 13 hours ago, SF2 said: You are talking about a man other men have probably worshipped since he was 8 years old. We probably all know a few. The supreme athlete other father’s wish their son was who got away with almost anything growing up. Guys who could pretty much do whatever they wanted and rarely face punishment. My daughter had one in her High School class. Stud QB and baseball player who stole money and credit cards from his own teammates for years. Finally got caught using one at a Walmart. His punishment for multiple felonies? Wasn’t allowed to play in their playoff game. His adult worshippers felt that was punishment enough. My son got caught selling a bottle of Bacardi to his classmates off school grounds after his “friend” narced him out. The police escorted my son, in handcuffs, down the crowded hallways during class change (intentional) and charged him. Had to go to court, pay a fine and lost his license for a year. Watson has done almost anything he ever wanted with no repercussions. He isn’t even going to lose his $45 mil signing bonus because the league can’t take it away. Worse, a multi-billion dollar franchise with over 40% of its fans women doesn’t seem to care. I have no doubt about that this (and a whole lot worse) happens all the time with "untouchable" starts. What I'm talking about is the thinking that Watson will get punished and then never do this or something like it again. I don't think so. What should keep Goodell up at night is giving him a light sentence and telling him to "Go forth and sin no more". A couple months later Watson is caught again asking multiple physical therapists if the y want to play "My Ding-a-Ling" on the massage table. Wouldn't THAT be a shit storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, gupps said: I have no doubt about that this (and a whole lot worse) happens all the time with "untouchable" starts. What I'm talking about is the thinking that Watson will get punished and then never do this or something like it again. I don't think so. What should keep Goodell up at night is giving him a light sentence and telling him to "Go forth and sin no more". A couple months later Watson is caught again asking multiple physical therapists if the y want to play "My Ding-a-Ling" on the massage table. Wouldn't THAT be a shit storm. IDK, the longer this goes on the more I'm getting the impression the NFL is going to do the absolute minimum. Maybe a year suspension but let him appeal it down to 6-8 games after a few mandatory sessions with Sexual Harassment Panda & maybe a weepy ESPN interview afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 2, 2022 Report Share Posted July 2, 2022 3 hours ago, T-Dub said: IDK, the longer this goes on the more I'm getting the impression the NFL is going to do the absolute minimum. Maybe a year suspension but let him appeal it down to 6-8 games after a few mandatory sessions with Sexual Harassment Panda & maybe a weepy ESPN interview afterwards. The problem is he would be appealing to Sir Roger Goodell under the new CBA. Roger would have to overturn the sentence handed down by a female arbiter concerning sexual assault. I just can’t see that ever happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 18 hours ago, SF2 said: The problem is he would be appealing to Sir Roger Goodell under the new CBA. Roger would have to overturn the sentence handed down by a female arbiter concerning sexual assault. I just can’t see that ever happening. The optics are certainly bad but I've yet to see anything to suggest that Goodell & NFL FO won't basically do whatever the hell the owners want done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Goodell makes $30M a year, he sleeps fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 1 minute ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Goodell makes $30M a year, he sleeps fine. I would've guessed more. Still don't think he wants to be testifying before Congress under oath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_C_Deadpeople Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 Just now, T-Dub said: I would've guessed more. Still don't think he wants to be testifying before Congress under oath. Half the people that testify before the Congress Kangaroo court either lie or conveniently forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 3, 2022 Report Share Posted July 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: Half the people that testify before the Congress Kangaroo court either lie or conveniently forget. Oh no question, and lying is his default setting, but that's the one kind of attention they don't want because it might lead to regulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 5 hours ago, T-Dub said: Oh no question, and lying is his default setting, but that's the one kind of attention they don't want because it might lead to regulation. The league doesn’t want this attention. They will toss Watson overboard if it means a return to status quo. The owners don’t care about Jimmy Haslem either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 i forget who, but a legit source stated that waston not palying in 2021 cannot be used as any sort of "time served" nor can any back pay be taken. the only pay that can be effected is annual salary and if lengthy enough suspension the browns could attempt to get back signing bonus money, like if he got suspended 2 years they could get 2 years worth% of the signing bonus perhaps. but man, the browns we were willing to take a guy who sat out a year, and then may get suspended year, having not played a legit football game in like 30 months by the time he plays potentially.. and pay him that stack with no way to bail on it AND gave up assets to get it. the texans raped the browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 If the player and league agree to it, the 2021 season could be counted as an unpaid suspension. Watson would have to give the $10 million he got back to the Texans (and it would become available cap space for them) but if there is a negotiated settlement, that might be part of it. Florio has a piece saying the league's case against Watson focused on 5 women but none of them alleged any force by Watson. So soliciting women for sex during a massage might not violate any NFL policy. The league didn't punish Kraft so it might not be able to punish Watson either. If Judge Robinson does impose some punishment, the league can appeal it to Goodell, but he will be bound by her findings of fact. If she imposes heavy punishment, the league won't appeal. But if she comes back with a lighter punishment and finding no use or threat of force, the league will have a problem. NFL decisions are mainly decided by PR considerations. Letting Watson back on the field pretty soon wouldn't be a good look for the league but neither is overturning a female arbitrator and former federal judge in her first case. That bodes poorly for the league down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleEarl Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 3 hours ago, sparky151 said: If the player and league agree to it, the 2021 season could be counted as an unpaid suspension. Watson would have to give the $10 million he got back to the Texans (and it would become available cap space for them) but if there is a negotiated settlement, that might be part of it. Florio has a piece saying the league's case against Watson focused on 5 women but none of them alleged any force by Watson. So soliciting women for sex during a massage might not violate any NFL policy. The league didn't punish Kraft so it might not be able to punish Watson either. If Judge Robinson does impose some punishment, the league can appeal it to Goodell, but he will be bound by her findings of fact. If she imposes heavy punishment, the league won't appeal. But if she comes back with a lighter punishment and finding no use or threat of force, the league will have a problem. NFL decisions are mainly decided by PR considerations. Letting Watson back on the field pretty soon wouldn't be a good look for the league but neither is overturning a female arbitrator and former federal judge in her first case. That bodes poorly for the league down the road. Hey, the University of North Carolina ran sham courses for almost two decades and got away with it. Nothing surprises me anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dub Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 11 hours ago, GoBengals said: but man, the browns we were willing to take a guy who sat out a year, and then may get suspended year, having not played a legit football game in like 30 months by the time he plays potentially.. and pay him that stack with no way to bail on it AND gave up assets to get it. For a $250 million and 3 consecutive first round picks! That's what I can't figure out - their best and possibly only plan B option is to draft an elite QB at the top of the first round, which is right where they're likely to be sitting the next few years without Watson. I think they must have reassurances from somewhere that he won't miss more than a year. Even then it's hard to fathom, like why not just draft a QB with the #3 pick this year, or get one next year if you didn't like this class? Maybe one that isn't on the way to registered sex offender status? Was Baker Mayfield actually the brains of that organization? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|BlackJesus| Posted July 4, 2022 Report Share Posted July 4, 2022 Watson gets 50 million this year even if he doesn't play ... Meanwhile ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-GoBengals- Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 4 hours ago, T-Dub said: For a $250 million and 3 consecutive first round picks! That's what I can't figure out - their best and possibly only plan B option is to draft an elite QB at the top of the first round, which is right where they're likely to be sitting the next few years without Watson. I think they must have reassurances from somewhere that he won't miss more than a year. Even then it's hard to fathom, like why not just draft a QB with the #3 pick this year, or get one next year if you didn't like this class? Maybe one that isn't on the way to registered sex offender status? Was Baker Mayfield actually the brains of that organization? yea man, you either go hard for a free agent with cash, or you go hard at a player with an existing reasonable contract with a ton of picks to get the trade.. they somehow DID BOTH. what the fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 3 hours ago, BlackJesus said: Screenshot excerpts from a recent article ... alllllll of that is fun and games, but if that team was in first place and in the playoffs theyd all come back instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tigre Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, GoBengals said: alllllll of that is fun and games, but if that team was in first place and in the playoffs theyd all come back instantly. Literally no doubt. That this franchise is seriously considering petitioning their populace to fund a new/domed “downtown” (a whopping .5 miles from where they are already)…and the prevailing air of acceptance for the idea…should be all the indication one needs. John Wayne Gacy could be the QB, and those folks would be with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 Come to think about it, who IS going to be the Browns starting quarterback on opening day? OK... and who cares, but still... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-GoBengals- Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 1 hour ago, High School Harry said: Come to think about it, who IS going to be the Browns starting quarterback on opening day? OK... and who cares, but still... Brissett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted July 5, 2022 Report Share Posted July 5, 2022 7 hours ago, GoBengals said: Brissett Is that a person or a fancy toilet in a French brothel? "Fi Fi visited the brissett before entertaining her next gentleman caller." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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