October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768865 15 hours ago, Griever said: All that money would buy a lot of these guys:
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768867 Please Lou - PLEASE - don't let Groper Cleveland resurrect his career this weekend.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768871 38 minutes ago, Cat said: Please Lou - PLEASE - don't let Groper Cleveland resurrect his career this weekend. Groper Cleveland... BWAAA HAAAA HAAAA!
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768872 It is hard to believe that the Browns players themselves think Rub n Tug gives them 'the best chance to win' other than the best chance to win the first overall pick in the next draft
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768909 18 hours ago, T-Dub said: 3 first round picks! Anybody outside Cuyahoga County knew that was a disaster from the start. Even in a world where he's a great QB and also not a serial rapist that deal makes no fucking sense. But he's not, and he is, and while the former is maybe slightly debatable in a starry-eyed "he's got potential" sort of way, the second part was common knowledge and should've been an immediate deal breaker or at the very least grounds for a serious, bargain basement discount with a very large escape hatch option allowing the team to bail out of any contract at their discretion.. so WTF were they possibly thinking? Kinda feel like if they don't beat the Browns now I'm not sure they ever will. lol, yea, a loss to cleveland would be tough without some extreme mitigating circumstance. 5 hours ago, Griever said: lol, man you cant sit him and pay him that, NO ONE will take a trade, they are gonna ahve to eat next years deal too, then cut him for the cap hit after that. and eat 70 mil AGAIN. they are fucked and the rebuild come in 2027. love to see it. 5 hours ago, Cat said: Please Lou - PLEASE - don't let Groper Cleveland resurrect his career this weekend. defense has held teams to 16 and 7 points total in games lou had even MOST of his players playing, not even healthy. probably nothing anything lou is doing wrong. 4 hours ago, I_C_Deadpeople said: It is hard to believe that the Browns players themselves think Rub n Tug gives them 'the best chance to win' other than the best chance to win the first overall pick in the next draft yea and touchy feely has been barking and trashing his linemen and teammates on the field, i saw part of last game and OL guy got beat and he was yelling at him, like 3-4 sentences of it, OL guy didnt look happy. he is in a state of throwing his hands up after every failed play, his fault or not, it sure FEELS like he is a locker room cancer from hell, AND sucks, and everyone involved knows they are fucked and stuck together for 2.5 more years AND no chance of a trade. never seen such a horrible decision until i saw then restructure his money to fuck themselves even worse later.. they doubled down with the House Deed in vegas.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768910 6 minutes ago, GoBengals said: lol, yea, a loss to cleveland would be tough without some extreme mitigating circumstance. lol, man you cant sit him and pay him that, NO ONE will take a trade, they are gonna ahve to eat next years deal too, then cut him for the cap hit after that. and eat 70 mil AGAIN. they are fucked and the rebuild come in 2027. love to see it. defense has held teams to 16 and 7 points total in games lou had even MOST of his players playing, not even healthy. probably nothing anything lou is doing wrong. yea and touchy feely has been barking and trashing his linemen and teammates on the field, i saw part of last game and OL guy got beat and he was yelling at him, like 3-4 sentences of it, OL guy didnt look happy. he is in a state of throwing his hands up after every failed play, his fault or not, it sure FEELS like he is a locker room cancer from hell, AND sucks, and everyone involved knows they are fucked and stuck together for 2.5 more years AND no chance of a trade. never seen such a horrible decision until i saw then restructure his money to fuck themselves even worse later.. they doubled down with the House Deed in vegas. The only out is if he's actually convicted of something or the NFL suspends him, and expecting Goodell to suddenly crack down on sex offenders is one hell of a long shot. Not going to happen without criminal charges.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768912 4 minutes ago, T-Dub said: The only out is if he's actually convicted of something or the NFL suspends him, and expecting Goodell to suddenly crack down on sex offenders is one hell of a long shot. Not going to happen without criminal charges. yea, and the NFL isnt that likely to bail out the browns, if it was the cowboys, or something, id bet theyd have already saved their ass from that deal with a ban or suspension, but definetly not the browns
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768920 18 minutes ago, Griever said: whoooo 13 minutes ago, Griever said: shucks
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768922 27 minutes ago, Griever said: Meh... Rather hear Kevin Harlan and Kurt Warner but their Westwood Ones top radio announcers.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768924 Browns trade Amri Cooper to Bills for 2025 3rd rounder. Cooper takes the place of departed Diggs as top receiver for Allen. Browns are bailing on the season
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768932 2 hours ago, GoBengals said: shucks @GoBengals, none of the links from X (twitter) seem to be working if you can check on that. It means like half the posts aren't visible right now.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768936 21 hours ago, T-Dub said: 3 first round picks! Anybody outside Cuyahoga County knew that was a disaster from the start. Even in a world where he's a great QB and also not a serial rapist that deal makes no fucking sense. But he's not, and he is, and while the former is maybe slightly debatable in a starry-eyed "he's got potential" sort of way, the second part was common knowledge and should've been an immediate deal breaker or at the very least grounds for a serious, bargain basement discount with a very large escape hatch option allowing the team to bail out of any contract at their discretion.. so WTF were they possibly thinking? Kinda feel like if they don't beat the Browns now I'm not sure they ever will. You may be forgetting how spectacularly well Watson played for the Texans. He certainly posted franchise QB numbers in Houston, and most analysts rated him as a top 5 QB in the league the last year he played. Here are Watson's career stats: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3122840/deshaun-watson There were quite a few teams willing to give up 3 first round draft picks, including what became his Final Four teams- Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, Cleveland. Then Cleveland was suddenly eliminated, which made the Browns panic. The only way they could land Watson's services was to do the unthinkable - give him the first ever 100 percent guaranteed contract. The compensation wasn't the stumbling block for the other finalists, it was the shocking contract. If an organization was willing to ignore all of the off the field allegations - there were quite a few besides Cleveland ready to do so - then they all felt like they would be getting a rare franchise QB even if it was a PR nightmare. The statistical dropoff from Houston to Cleveland might be the steepest plummet in NFL history. It's like his QB game just fell off a cliff. But seriously, who was predicting that at the time. Sure, other teams realize now that they dodged a bullet with Watson, but they certainly didn't think so when he suddenly became available in a trade.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768940 Next time Watson gets an ouchie, Browns should put him on IR and excuse him from attendance at practice or games. Winston isn't very good either and can QB them to a top 5 pick. They need a cheap QB and that means a rookie, even an early picked one. They may or may not be able to turn that rookie into a decent NFL QB but Watson will still be around for 2025. If the Browns want to spread the cap hits from Watson's dead money over the most years, they could cut him early in 2026 with a post-June 1 designation and split the remaining money between 2026 and 2027. If their 2025 rookie QB is a hit, then Watson's contract will be off their cap just in time for an extension for the new guy. If the rookie flops, he'll just be another name on the jersey. Isn't it up to about 30 names now? If Browns want to get out from under the Watson contract asap, they can release him in early 2025 with post-June 1 designation. They can carry over 44 mil (plus probably another 12 or so with Cooper traded) and offset most of the cap hit for 2025. But 2026 will sting.
October 15, 2024Oct 15 comment_1768946 4 hours ago, claptonrocks said: Browns trade Amri Cooper to Bills for 2025 3rd rounder. Cooper takes the place of departed Diggs as top receiver for Allen. Browns are bailing on the season Amari Cooper is leading the NFL in drops this season with 9.
October 16, 2024Oct 16 comment_1768958 7 hours ago, BlackJesus said: @GoBengals, none of the links from X (twitter) seem to be working if you can check on that. It means like half the posts aren't visible right now. all showing for me? still not seeing? if they are back maybe a glitch in the feed for a short time? 6 hours ago, dex said: You may be forgetting how spectacularly well Watson played for the Texans. He certainly posted franchise QB numbers in Houston, and most analysts rated him as a top 5 QB in the league the last year he played. Here are Watson's career stats: https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3122840/deshaun-watson There were quite a few teams willing to give up 3 first round draft picks, including what became his Final Four teams- Atlanta, Carolina, New Orleans, Cleveland. Then Cleveland was suddenly eliminated, which made the Browns panic. The only way they could land Watson's services was to do the unthinkable - give him the first ever 100 percent guaranteed contract. The compensation wasn't the stumbling block for the other finalists, it was the shocking contract. If an organization was willing to ignore all of the off the field allegations - there were quite a few besides Cleveland ready to do so - then they all felt like they would be getting a rare franchise QB even if it was a PR nightmare. The statistical dropoff from Houston to Cleveland might be the steepest plummet in NFL history. It's like his QB game just fell off a cliff. But seriously, who was predicting that at the time. Sure, other teams realize now that they dodged a bullet with Watson, but they certainly didn't think so when he suddenly became available in a trade. he played wildly well statistically, and that was for 1 singlseason, and they lost either 12 or 14 games still. many attributed the numbers to always being losing and having to throw constantly and getting a bunch of cheap yards at the ends of blowout games. i dont recall well enough to judge that deep.
October 16, 2024Oct 16 comment_1768965 8 hours ago, GoBengals said: all showing for me? still not seeing? if they are back maybe a glitch in the feed for a short time? All the videos from X don't show for me now on the laptop or phone. I see the text of the tweets, but not any video. Wonder if I am the only one. It started a day or so ago.
October 16, 2024Oct 16 Author comment_1768966 2 minutes ago, BlackJesus said: All the videos from X don't show for me now on the laptop or phone. I see the text of the tweets, but not any video. Wonder if I am the only one. It started a day or so ago. Sorry BJ, I haven't encountered these issues...yet. I am using a phone running Android 13, I did just recently update my browser in the Play Store though.
October 16, 2024Oct 16 comment_1768976 10 hours ago, GoBengals said: he played wildly well statistically, and that was for 1 singlseason, and they lost either 12 or 14 games still. many attributed the numbers to always being losing and having to throw constantly and getting a bunch of cheap yards at the ends of blowout games. i dont recall well enough to judge that deep. Yes, Houston lost 12 games Watson's final year, but 8 of the losses were within one score. Watson was the one thing that kept Houston competitive in those games. If I am supposed to blame Watson for Houston's bad record his final year there, then I would have to also blame Burrow for Cincinnati's bad record this year so far. And of course I don't, That would be absurd.
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