Rick Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 ...should the Colts take their place in the SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|High School Harry| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 That would be nice but ain't gonna happen because we are so far into the pre Super Bowl hype and frenzy surrounding the Cheatriots. Be nice to see them hammered substantially with penalties (lost draft choices, etc.) for a few seasons to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scharm Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm kinda embarassed for the sport that something like this is a critical discussion. Colts and Pats played twice. Pats smoked them twice. I'm sorry, but what immediately came to mind was the 81 San Diego Charger crying about cold weather and the Freezer Bowl being played and everyone forgetting the Bengals whooped the Chargers eariler that year in San Diego. I just don't think 2lbs of air pressure in 11 of 12 balls makes that much difference to excuse the defeats. Take away cap room or draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Dr Tarzan| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I wasn't aware that each team used it's own set of footballs for a game. I thought there was a "game set" that was cycled between the teams. If it is the later, it isn't even an issue as both teams would play with same set. But if it's the former, 2 lbs of pressure in a bladder designed for 13 is a BIG difference that I could see being a huge advantage to holding, carrying, and catching in cold or wet weather. So if there isn't a "common game set" of footballs, InflateGate should have some HUGE penalties. Brady even mentioned on national radio a few years ago--can't remember if ESPN or what--that he liked a less inflated ball much better. Fines, draft picks, suspensions, hell, I could even see a forfeit on the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|Montana Bengal| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ban the coach for a year.... 1/2 :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthPaw Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I'm kinda embarassed for the sport that something like this is a critical discussion. Colts and Pats played twice. Pats smoked them twice. I'm sorry, but what immediately came to mind was the 81 San Diego Charger crying about cold weather and the Freezer Bowl being played and everyone forgetting the Bengals whooped the Chargers eariler that year in San Diego. I just don't think 2lbs of air pressure in 11 of 12 balls makes that much difference to excuse the defeats. Take away cap room or draft picks. yep. ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|RayDoggBengal| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 coach banned for life and name removed from any records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Even so if true, they both played with the same ball so how is there an advantage anyway. Its not like each team played with separate balls.Guess I'm stupid. Shrugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
membengal Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Take away their next 5 years worth of first round draft picks. Suspend Belichick for 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ban the coach for a year.... 1/2 :ninja: Sean Peyton was banned for a year. Bellicheat is a repeat offender.....ban his sorry ass. Even so if true, they both played with the same ball so how is there an advantage anyway. Its not like each team played with separate balls.Guess I'm stupid. Shrugs. Not true. The Patriots supply their own (illegal) ball for offense as did the Colts. Brady was using a non legal (intentionally) ball on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ban the coach for a year.... 1/2 No :ninja: Fixt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 [quote name="SF2" post="1426270" timestamp="1421861198"] Sean Peyton was banned for a year. Bellicheat is a repeat offender.....ban him sorry ass. Not true. The Patriots supply their own (illegal) ball for offense as did the Colts. Brady was using a non legal (intentionally) ball on offense.[/quote ] Thanks for the info SF , but that confuses me even morem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie_B Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Give them the Sean Payton treatment. Belicheat gets the year off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_dish Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 So wait, each offense uses their own balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|schotzee| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 So wait, each offense uses their own balls? SF is fucking around. That makes 0 sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengals1181 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 So wait, each offense uses their own balls? yes. each team provides 12 balls to the refs before the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted January 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 SF is fucking around. That makes 0 sense. SF2 is correct. Each team uses their own 12 footballs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|RayDoggBengal| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Even so if true, they both played with the same ball so how is there an advantage anyway. Its not like each team played with separate balls.Guess I'm stupid. Shrugs. No they didn't play with the same balls. Each team plays with the balls they provide, that's why the defense noticed the difference when they got the interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 No they didn't play with the same balls. Each team plays with the balls they provide, that's why the defense noticed the difference when they got the interceptions. Even more important, the balls were certified BEFORE the game by the officials and returned to the sidelines. At this point the air pressure was reduced which is a clear violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 SF is fucking around. That makes 0 sense. Yes they do. Each team provides 12 balls they will use during their turn on offense. The balls are checked by the officials and returned to the team immediately prior to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|kennethmw| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 SF is fucking around. That makes 0 sense. It may make zero sense, but is is true. Each team has 12 balls for their offense that they are allowed to "set up" for their offense to play with. There are also separate balls for Kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I just don't think 2lbs of air pressure in 11 of 12 balls makes that much difference to excuse the defeats. If it didn't make a difference why do it? It's cheating. 100%. That's why we have rules. Belicheck, repeat offender, should be banned for a year (Payton) and the Pats lose their picks for a bit. Yes the Colts probably wouldn't have won. But that's not the point. Break the rules, get punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bengal27 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Ban the coach for a year.... 1/2 :ninja: No ninja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Another thing to consider: According to the Scott Van Pelt show, they caught this at halftime of the game and the Patriots used fully inflated balls for the whole 2nd half. So they outscored the Colts 17-7 with deflated balls and 28-0 with the fully inflated balls. The idea of making them forfeit the game or that it gave them some huge advantages is clearly ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
|SF2| Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 If it didn't make a difference why do it? It's cheating. 100%. That's why we have rules. Belicheck, repeat offender, should be banned for a year (Payton) and the Pats lose their picks for a bit. Yes the Colts probably wouldn't have won. But that's not the point. Break the rules, get punished. The bounty issue with the Saints had nothing to do with them winning games either yet they had the hammer dropped on them to include coaches AND players being suspended for long periods of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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